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February 15th, 2022, 12:51
bmos

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Originally Posted by rmilmine

Would it not be possible to do it in a similar fashion to potions and scrolls be possible? They use the inventory count and that count goes into the spell level and a link to the inventory item gets put in the spell that is added.
In order to link the inventory item and the drop down though, you would need to create a new template for the drop down. Add a function that accepts the inventory items and puts the item's name in the display and a link to the item in a list. You just need to ensure that the two lists remain in the same order.
Or instead of using a drop down, use a list with a check box. If one gets checked whatever one was checked gets unchecked. With the list you can easily link everything.

IIRC I did have it set up that way briefly during testing but I just couldn't figure out how to get the remaining ammo count to show on the combat tab. It's definitely work another look sometime.
February 15th, 2022, 16:40
nephranka

On a side note, were you able to resolve none range weapons have ammo options and ranged melee weapons (like dagger) having ammo? Thanks!
February 15th, 2022, 16:43
rmilmine

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I still can't figure out why the drop down is empty for me.
So going to post some pictures.
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February 15th, 2022, 16:55
bmos

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Originally Posted by rmilmine

I still can't figure out why the drop down is empty for me.
So going to post some pictures.
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Ammo needs to be in the subtype field.
Pathfinder standard format is type: goods and services; subtype: ammunition
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...l=1#post625827
February 15th, 2022, 20:43
bmos

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Originally Posted by nephranka

On a side note, were you able to resolve none range weapons have ammo options and ranged melee weapons (like dagger) having ammo? Thanks!

Yup. Went live today.
https://github.com/bmos/FG-Ammunitio...eases/tag/v2.9

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmilmine

Would it not be possible to do it in a similar fashion to potions and scrolls be possible? They use the inventory count and that count goes into the spell level and a link to the inventory item gets put in the spell that is added.
In order to link the inventory item and the drop down though, you would need to create a new template for the drop down. Add a function that accepts the inventory items and puts the item's name in the display and a link to the item in a list. You just need to ensure that the two lists remain in the same order.
Or instead of using a drop down, use a list with a check box. If one gets checked whatever one was checked gets unchecked. With the list you can easily link everything.

Thanks for getting me to look at this again. I think I know how to make this work the way I want now.
The issue I'm tracking this on is here: https://github.com/bmos/FG-Ammunition-Manager/issues/9
February 16th, 2022, 01:40
nephranka

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Originally Posted by bmos

Yup. Went live today.
https://github.com/bmos/FG-Ammunitio...eases/tag/v2.9

Thanks for getting me to look at this again. I think I know how to make this work the way I want now.
The issue I'm tracking this on is here: https://github.com/bmos/FG-Ammunition-Manager/issues/9

Looks good on the melee weapon but the thrown dagger does not have an ammo section so no way to reload? I get no need to "recover" ammo for a dagger but I would have thought the reload button would take them from my inventory. Maybe I am not thinking about this the correct? Thanks!

Edit: one more item. Magic arrows populate in the ammo section even when not identified.
February 16th, 2022, 01:46
nephranka

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Originally Posted by rmilmine

I still can't figure out why the drop down is empty for me.
So going to post some pictures.
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Please let me know if you see anything amiss with these.

At least in 5e the subtype needs to be "Ammunition" on the arrows.
February 16th, 2022, 06:11
rmilmine

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Originally Posted by bmos

Ammo needs to be in the subtype field.
Pathfinder standard format is type: goods and services; subtype: ammunition
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...l=1#post625827[/url]

That is really strange, the Core rule book that I bought has the Type as Ammo and the Subtype as blank for arrows and bolts. So all magical arrows or bolts I make are based off those...
February 16th, 2022, 10:42
nephranka

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Here is an arrow in 5e
February 16th, 2022, 12:43
bmos

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Originally Posted by rmilmine

That is really strange, the Core rule book that I bought has the Type as Ammo and the Subtype as blank for arrows and bolts. So all magical arrows or bolts I make are based off those...

You are correct that it is incorrectly listed in the Core Rulebook :P
However after consulting the Core Rulebook PDF I get why it's entered like that. They didn't clarify those item types until Ultimate Equipment.
I'll push an update to search both of those fields.

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Originally Posted by nephranka

I get no need to "recover" ammo for a dagger but I would have thought the reload button would take them from my inventory. Maybe I am not thinking about this the correct

Daggers are not subtype ammo, so you can't use the reload button with them.

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Originally Posted by nephranka

Magic arrows populate in the ammo section even when not identified.

Thanks, this is a great point. I can update to include nonid_name values.
February 16th, 2022, 13:44
nephranka

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Originally Posted by bmos

You are correct that it is incorrectly listed in the Core Rulebook :P
However after consulting the Core Rulebook PDF I get why it's entered like that. They didn't clarify those item types until Ultimate Equipment.
I'll push an update to search both of those fields.

Daggers are not subtype ammo, so you can't use the reload button with them.

Thanks, this is a great point. I can update to include nonid_name values.

Cool. Thanks for the info!
February 17th, 2022, 07:01
kevininrussia

Ruleset 4E
No other extensions loaded.

I am getting an error when opening the Combat tab.

[ERROR] Script execution error: [string "campaign/scripts/ammo_ammopicker.lua"]:53: attempt to index global 'itemsheetaltname' (a nil value)
February 17th, 2022, 12:27
bmos

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Originally Posted by kevininrussia

Ruleset 4E
No other extensions loaded.

I am getting an error when opening the Combat tab.

[ERROR] Script execution error: [string "campaign/scripts/ammo_ammopicker.lua"]:53: attempt to index global 'itemsheetaltname' (a nil value)

Oops, I just pushed an update to resolve.
February 17th, 2022, 16:39
bmos

v3.0-rc.1 now available for testing.
https://github.com/bmos/FG-Ammunitio.../tag/v3.0-rc.1
It required some pretty substantial behind-the scenes changes but the UI remains mostly the same.

EDIT and v3.0-rc.2
https://github.com/bmos/FG-Ammunitio.../tag/v3.0-rc.2
February 17th, 2022, 20:55
bmos

v3.0 is now released
https://github.com/bmos/FG-Ammunitio...eases/tag/v3.0

and I shot a new video but it's still processing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW0JeWRxnx8
February 17th, 2022, 23:08
bmos

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Originally Posted by rmilmine

Currently what I've been doing is using the other Extension that adds effects to items.
So if I have a +1 Shortbow, and 20 +1 arrows, and 5 +2 Evil Outsider Demon arrows. This is what they would look like.
Shortbow Effect: BOW; action only
+1 arrows effect: IF: CUSTOM(Bow); DMGTYPE: magic ATK: 1; DMG: 1
+2 Evil Outsider Demon arrows effect: IF: CUSTOM(Bow); DMGTYPE: magic; IFT: TYPE(outsider); IFT: TYPE(demon); ATK: 2; DMG: 2d6+2;
Now how this works is, I equip the bow, I equip the arrows I want to use and then attack with the bow.
Now if only I can figure out how to get this extension to decrease the count on the arrows in the inventory... I'm thinking it has to do with the drop down just not sure what's missing, as it's empty.

Pathfinder Advanced Effects will now facilitate use of "Action Only" on both weapon and ammo so you don't need to use that workaround.
And the new update to Ammunition Manager will decrement directly from inventory.

I've submitted a patch to Celestian to try and add this to the 5E Advanced Effects version as well.
February 21st, 2022, 16:47
Horus1216

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So I'm running the ammo manager in FGU PF1 and one of my player's sheets is causing this error. (error pic is Capture.jpg) It seems to be directly related to their shortbow. It only happens for one character and none of the other 3. I am running multiple extensions so I have included SCs of all of my extensions I am running.(Captures 2-3)
February 21st, 2022, 18:02
bmos

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Originally Posted by Horus1216

So I'm running the ammo manager in FGU PF1 and one of my player's sheets is causing this error. (error pic is Capture.jpg) It seems to be directly related to their shortbow. It only happens for one character and none of the other 3. I am running multiple extensions so I have included SCs of all of my extensions I am running.(Captures 2-3)

Hmm. That is a weird error!
Do you have the latest from the Forge? v3.0-hotfix.1?
If you don't mind, zip up your campaign and send it to me.
What triggers the error? Attacking? Opening the sheet?
February 21st, 2022, 18:14
Horus1216

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Anything to do with the shortbow or the arrows in the inventory is what was triggering it. It also wouldn't show the ammo dots for his arrows regardless of how many he had in his inv/combat tab. I run the updater before every session. Also feel free to reach out to me in the discord channels.
February 21st, 2022, 19:01
bmos

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Originally Posted by Horus1216

Anything to do with the shortbow or the arrows in the inventory is what was triggering it. It also wouldn't show the ammo dots for his arrows regardless of how many he had in his inv/combat tab. I run the updater before every session. Also feel free to reach out to me in the discord channels.

I'm not sure why it's triggering an error, but I think I've updated it so it won't anymore :)

Also the arrows item should be "Arrow" weighing .15lb rather than "Arrows (20)" weighing 3lb.
You should also watch the new how-to video since ammo tracking has changed in v3
February 22nd, 2022, 23:31
nephranka

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In 5e, when I throw a dagger it outputs the attack but the ammo stays at 1? I would have thought it would have dropped to zero even if it is not taking from the inventory? Without the ext it keeps ammo at 1 but does check off the one circle. Maybe this is expected.
February 23rd, 2022, 00:38
bmos

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Originally Posted by nephranka

In 5e, when I throw a dagger it outputs the attack but the ammo stays at 1? I would have thought it would have dropped to zero even if it is not taking from the inventory? Without the ext it keeps ammo at 1 but does check off the one circle. Maybe this is expected.

Thanks, I pushed a fix.
https://github.com/bmos/FG-Ammunitio.../v3.0-hotfix.3
I also allowed you to link thrown weapons to ammo so you can throw away all your daggers (although it still only matches the type ammo or ammunition).
February 23rd, 2022, 00:40
nephranka

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Originally Posted by bmos

Thanks, I pushed a fix.
https://github.com/bmos/FG-Ammunitio.../v3.0-hotfix.3
I also allowed you to link thrown weapons to ammo so you can throw away all your daggers (although it still only matches the type ammo or ammunition).

Nice! Who needs them daggers anyway!
February 23rd, 2022, 00:47
nephranka

So it works but both type and subtype are currently taken with "weapon" and "Simple Melee Weapons" so no real place to put "Ammo". Thoughts? I changed the type but this will require some book keeping to make them throw-able. Mainly passing this along in case others try it.
February 23rd, 2022, 00:51
bmos

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Originally Posted by nephranka

So it works but both type and subtype are currently taken with "weapon" and "Simple Melee Weapons" so real place to put "Ammo". Thoughts? I changed the type but this will require some book keeping to make them throw-able. Mainly passing this along in case others try it.

I'll be adding that in the next update. Thrown items will match "weapon" instead. Although I could add more search terms. But at least now you can use it the old fashioned way.
February 23rd, 2022, 00:58
nephranka

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Originally Posted by bmos

I'll be adding that in the next update. Thrown items will match "weapon" instead. Although I could add more search terms. But at least now you can use it the old fashioned way.

Got it!
March 3rd, 2022, 00:20
Elaith

Hello Bmos,

I wanted to thank you for some great extensions, they really make my life as a DM far easier. I noticed an issue with the 'ammunition manager' extension and Kelrugem's extended automation and overlay extension. It seems when I have the ammunition manager loaded - the function TVCONC (target you attack has (N) concealment) does not work. Everything else seems to be working fine, it is just that one function that is not working.

I am not sure if that is something in the Ammunition ext or the overlay that needs to be changed. I just wanted to let you know, in case it can be fixed. As I like the ammunition extension, but I use the overlay far more often.

Thanks,
-Elaith
March 3rd, 2022, 00:57
BushViper

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Originally Posted by Horus1216

Anything to do with the shortbow or the arrows in the inventory is what was triggering it. It also wouldn't show the ammo dots for his arrows regardless of how many he had in his inv/combat tab. I run the updater before every session. Also feel free to reach out to me in the discord channels.

I'm also having an issue where shortbows specifically are not displaying their ammo 'dots' in the actions tab.
March 3rd, 2022, 00:59
bmos

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Originally Posted by BushViper

I'm also having an issue where shortbows specifically are not displaying their ammo 'dots' in the actions tab.

Are you sure it isn't just linking the ammo to an item in the inventory because of the new update?
March 3rd, 2022, 01:07
Elaith

Oops, That was not a reply to myself. Sorry about that.
March 3rd, 2022, 05:26
webdove

Hi, Nice Extension! I tried equipping a shortbow and a crossbow, but the crossbow did not show a "reload" circle icon. Was that eliminated?
March 3rd, 2022, 08:39
BushViper

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Originally Posted by bmos

Are you sure it isn't just linking the ammo to an item in the inventory because of the new update?

Yep, that's it. It seems that I missed the explanation for that functionality.

My apologies.
March 3rd, 2022, 12:32
bmos

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Originally Posted by webdove

Hi, Nice Extension! I tried equipping a shortbow and a crossbow, but the crossbow did not show a "reload" circle icon. Was that eliminated?

The search terms for things like that (and the feature overall) is ruleset specific.
4e: 'loadaction', 'ballista'
3.5E / PFRPG: 'loadaction', 'firearm', 'crossbow', 'javelin', 'ballista', 'windlass', 'pistol', 'rifle', 'sling'
Other rulesets have just 'loadaction' but if you're in 5E or SFRPG I don't think I bothered adding that button since I don't think there's any rule like that for those systems.
March 3rd, 2022, 16:32
webdove

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Originally Posted by bmos

The search terms for things like that (and the feature overall) is ruleset specific.
4e: 'loadaction', 'ballista'
3.5E / PFRPG: 'loadaction', 'firearm', 'crossbow', 'javelin', 'ballista', 'windlass', 'pistol', 'rifle', 'sling'
Other rulesets have just 'loadaction' but if you're in 5E or SFRPG I don't think I bothered adding that button since I don't think there's any rule like that for those systems.

Ah ok. I am using 5E so no reload button. Thx.
March 3rd, 2022, 17:14
bmos

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Originally Posted by webdove

Ah ok. I am using 5E so no reload button. Thx.

Is that a feature that would be worth having in 5E? I can definitely add it.
March 3rd, 2022, 19:12
webdove

The only related ranged weapon property is "loading"
PHB146 "Loading. Because of the time required to load this weapon, you can fire only one piece of ammunition from it when you use an action, bonus action, or reaction to fire it, regardless of the number of attacks you can normally make."
March 3rd, 2022, 19:23
webdove

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I just rewatched your 1.5 video. I guess you should implement the loading function in 5E.

Also, I don't see the missed ammo information being used in 5E.
PHB 146 "At the end of the battle, you can recover half your expended ammunition by taking a minute to search the battlefield."
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March 3rd, 2022, 19:42
bmos

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Originally Posted by webdove

I just rewatched your 1.5 video. I guess you should implement the loading function in 5E.

Also, I don't see the missed ammo information being used in 5E.
PHB 146 "At the end of the battle, you can recover half your expended ammunition by taking a minute to search the battlefield."
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have you tried with only ammunition manager loaded? it does seem to be showing ammunition recovery for hand crossbows on my end.
March 3rd, 2022, 21:45
webdove

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March 4th, 2022, 11:54
bmos

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He is a no extensions test
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ah, it looks like you are clicking the "shield" button that opens the item page.
you actually need to click the "magnifying glass" button that opens the weapon details.
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