Release 19 - Information and feedback

[Surge]

Apologies if this is no longer the correct thread to report issues/bugs. I couldn't find a thread for a newer version of the ruleset to report issues.

v5.1.0 (2026-01-23)

The setting "Show chat text?" in a "Skill Use" action invalidates the "secret" trait auto rolling the action as a hidden GM roll, as the result is output to the chat window regardless of any hidden roll settings in FG.

See image for better explanation.
hidden-rolls-ruined.png

It would be good if the campaign setting "Show GM rolls: OFF" overrode that option across the whole campaign. Although technically it is still a Player roll, but just in the dice tower. So perhaps any Dice Tower roll should override that setting?

Thanks.

[Trenloe]

Apologies if this is no longer the correct thread to report issues/bugs. I couldn't find a thread for a newer version of the ruleset to report issues.

v5.1.0 (2026-01-23)

The setting "Show chat text?" in a "Skill Use" action invalidates the "secret" trait auto rolling the action as a hidden GM roll, as the result is output to the chat window regardless of any hidden roll settings in FG.

See image for better explanation.
hidden-rolls-ruined.png

It would be good if the campaign setting "Show GM rolls: OFF" overrode that option across the whole campaign. Although technically it is still a Player roll, but just in the dice tower. So perhaps any Dice Tower roll should override that setting?

Thanks.

The issue with Secret result text being displayed to players was reported recently and is fixed in the next ruleset release - which is scheduled for tomorrow (Tuesday January 26th).

[Surge]

Apologies for not seeing it already reported.

Thanks so much Trenloe.

[Surge]

Hi Trenloe,

Sorry, have come across another bug.

Sometimes the result of a check will be printed twice to chat (see image). It has occurred at the least today for the NPC ability I captured in the image, and a Demoralise check by a PC to NPC.

Thanks.


fg-double-check-result-message.png

[Trenloe]

Hi Trenloe,

Sorry, have come across another bug.

Sometimes the result of a check will be printed twice to chat (see image). It has occurred at the least today for the NPC ability I captured in the image, and a Demoralise check by a PC to NPC.

Thanks.


fg-double-check-result-message.png

I can't recreate this issue.

It looks like you're using a least one extension (as changing the result text color is not part of the base ruleset). Please test without any extensions and if it still happens let me know. Thanks.

[Surge]

Hi Trenloe,

I thought I did test it with extensions off, but then couldn't confirm it immediately. This has taken a while to recreate and track down the conditions that it is occurring.

The following is all with no extensions.

It only occurs when both:
- a client is connected (originally reported with a friend connected. This evening with me connecting with a second instance of FG)
- and the setting "Chat: Show GM rolls" is set to OFF.

If the client disconnects but the setting remains set to OFF, it stops occurring.
If the setting is changed to ON (or PC, at least for what I tested it with) and the client stays connected, it stops occurring.

(Because of the conditions for it to occur, the client never sees the double results, only the host)

Additional: Okay, whilst writing this, I tested more things. It is always occurring if the "Intimidation vs. [targets]Will" roll in the Demoralize activity is done. This seems to be because whatever "Chat: Show GM rolls" is set as, the result is actually hidden (not sure why, it doesn't have the Secret trait). Because the result is hidden from the client, it is printing to chat twice. But as above, if the client disconnects, then that same roll doesn't print the result to chat twice, even with no changes to any settings.

Screengrabs from this evening (with no extensions):

fg-duplicate-hidden-results-client-connected.png


fg-duplicate-hidden-results-client-connected2.png

Thanks.

[Trenloe]

Thanks for the detailed information. The key is "Chat: Show GM rolls" being set to OFF. I'll investigate.

[Trenloe]

Hi Trenloe,

I thought I did test it with extensions off, but then couldn't confirm it immediately. This has taken a while to recreate and track down the conditions that it is occurring.

The following is all with no extensions.

It only occurs when both:
- a client is connected (originally reported with a friend connected. This evening with me connecting with a second instance of FG)
- and the setting "Chat: Show GM rolls" is set to OFF.

If the client disconnects but the setting remains set to OFF, it stops occurring.
If the setting is changed to ON (or PC, at least for what I tested it with) and the client stays connected, it stops occurring.

(Because of the conditions for it to occur, the client never sees the double results, only the host)

Additional: Okay, whilst writing this, I tested more things. It is always occurring if the "Intimidation vs. [targets]Will" roll in the Demoralize activity is done. This seems to be because whatever "Chat: Show GM rolls" is set as, the result is actually hidden (not sure why, it doesn't have the Secret trait). Because the result is hidden from the client, it is printing to chat twice. But as above, if the client disconnects, then that same roll doesn't print the result to chat twice, even with no changes to any settings.

Screengrabs from this evening (with no extensions):

fg-duplicate-hidden-results-client-connected.png


fg-duplicate-hidden-results-client-connected2.png

Thanks.

This should be fixed in today's release: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...l=1#post758373

It required a fix in the underlying CoreRPG ruleset. Activity result text should now also respect the Chat: Show results to client setting. Thanks again for letting us know about this issue.

[Surge]

It works, thanks.

However, minor issue: If the results are hidden, the client sees a blank line posted to chat.

Thanks for all your hard work Trenloe!

[Trenloe]

However, minor issue: If the results are hidden, the client sees a blank line posted to chat.

Yes, it will. That's standard functionality as the code has to send blank player message data to hide the base message. Showing a small blank line is core FG functionality in this case.