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    Newbie 3.5e magic question

    What's the formula for dispelling level 4 polymorph spell and level 9 true polymorph?

    In other words, I cast polymorph on myself, what's the formula to determine whether I get dispelled when someone casts dispel magic?

    I played pathfinder kingmaker and my dragonkind spell got dispelled within a round so I'm womdering if I should ever considers using polymorph against a caster.
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    Is there a separate rule set for 3.5e that is different from pathfinder? If not, read about all related spells in d20pfsrd.com, esp polymorph and baleful polymorph spells. Dispel magic is there as well with mechanic for rolling. I only know the PnP 3.5 rules, where there is polymorph other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dradams View Post
    Is there a separate rule set for 3.5e that is different from pathfinder? If not, read about all related spells in d20pfsrd.com, esp polymorph and baleful polymorph spells. Dispel magic is there as well with mechanic for rolling. I only know the PnP 3.5 rules, where there is polymorph other.
    Spell resistance shows as different on d20pfsrd.com compared to the 3.5e on https://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/polymorph.htm
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    Spell resistance is separate mechanic than dispeling. They differ between Pathfinder 1e and 3.5e rulebooks but think that the Fansty Grounds ruleset is the same and matches Pathfinder. I don't think I understand your question exactly, but baleful polymorph (the kind you can use against an unwilling opponent) is a fine choice for attacking a spell caster--unless they have innate shapechanging ability for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dradams View Post
    Spell resistance is separate mechanic than dispeling. They differ between Pathfinder 1e and 3.5e rulebooks but think that the Fansty Grounds ruleset is the same and matches Pathfinder. I don't think I understand your question exactly, but baleful polymorph (the kind you can use against an unwilling opponent) is a fine choice for attacking a spell caster--unless they have innate shapechanging ability for some reason.
    I'll reitarate, I mean the classic polymorph casted on a willing target. So if I turned myself into a dragon, what's the formula to determine whether I get dispelled and returned to my primal form?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign View Post
    I'll reitarate, I mean the classic polymorph casted on a willing target. So if I turned myself into a dragon, what's the formula to determine whether I get dispelled and returned to my primal form?
    Depends on how they dispel that magic The "formulas" for that are written in the dispel's description.

    If they cast dispel magic, then see here for example: https://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/dispelMagic.htm (under "targeted dispel"; this description is also in FG, after you loaded the 3.5e module )

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    Quote Originally Posted by dradams View Post
    [...] but think that the Fansty Grounds ruleset is the same and matches Pathfinder.
    The way how FG handles SR in the 3.5e ruleset is as it should be in 3.5e; so there should be no problem, I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelrugem View Post
    Depends on how they dispel that magic The "formulas" for that are written in the dispel's description.

    If they cast dispel magic, then see here for example: https://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/dispelMagic.htm (under "targeted dispel"; this description is also in FG, after you loaded the 3.5e module )
    Is there anything I can do to make my spells harder to dispel, like having high charisma as sorcerer? Are there any feats or the like that make dispelling harder?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign View Post
    Is there anything I can do to make my spells harder to dispel, like having high charisma as sorcerer? Are there any feats or the like that make dispelling harder?
    Hm, the obvious one is your caster level, so simply leveling

    There might be feats etc., too, but I am not a player usually, so I have no idea You might need to google that, there are usually many threads about such things somewhere

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    Targeted Dispel: One object, creature, or spell is the target of
    the dispel magic spell. You make one dispel check (1d20 + your caster level) and compare that to the spell with highest caster level (DC = 11 + the spell’s caster level). If successful, that spell ends. If not, compare the same result to the spell with the next highest caster level. Repeat this process until you have dispelled one spell affecting the target, or you have failed to dispel every spell. For example, a 7th-level caster casts dispel magic, targeting a
    creature affected by stoneskin (caster level 12th) and fly (caster level 6th). The caster level check results in a 19. This check is not high enough to end the stoneskin (which would have required a 23 or higher), but it is high enough to end the fly (which only required a 17). Had the dispel check resulted in a 23 or higher, the stoneskin would have been dispelled, leaving the fly intact. Had the dispel check been a 16 or less, no spells would have been affected.

    Theres no FG automation for this its up to the GM.

    Theres also counterspells, which could cancel out your cast. Is that whats happening? Is another caster countering your polymorph as you cast it? Thats very different. Dont need to cast dispel to counter. It just fizzles your polymorph.
    Last edited by KILLGORE; August 5th, 2025 at 06:21.

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