Omg kickstarter stream was awesome

[Caenth]

Okay, if I understand this incorrectly, please correct me.

So if I want to upgrade from FGC Standard > FGU Ultimate I will have to pay for the FGC Standard > FGC Ultimate upgrade ($110) + FGC Ultimate > FGU Ultimate ($30). A total of $140.

While the newcomers price is $135 (during KS).

Not that an extra $5 is -that- much, but making it more expensive for an upgrader than a newcomer sounds not okay to me.

Edit: I will most likely pick up the FGC upgrade during a discount on Steam in this case.

[Mr Hale]

I missed the stream, when is the kickstart program, starting?

[damned]

Hi Caenth

Of you want an Ultimate NOW whole you are using FGC then yes you would do that upgrade path. Upgrade to Ultimate now so you can use Ultimate for the next 8/9/? months.
Back the kickstarter for $30 to get FGU Ultimate when it arrives.

If you dont need Ultimate now, but you want it for FGU then do the newcomer price only.
Newcomers buying an FGU license via kickstarter wont get FGC now, they will get FGU beta and FGU live when they are ready.

I hope that makes sense.

Just saw your edit. These kickstarter prices are available during the kickstarter. We dont know what the prices will be outside of this but probably they will just be the standard/ultimate buy price. It is paying money now (soon) for something you will get later - which is one reason you get the discount.

[i3ullseye]

Someone put on a cap of intelligence when pricing this out! Now just need some tier level included add on info!

[Kelrugem]

Okay, if I understand this incorrectly, please correct me.

So if I want to upgrade from FGC Standard > FGU Ultimate I will have to pay for the FGC Standard > FGC Ultimate upgrade ($110) + FGC Ultimate > FGU Ultimate ($30). A total of $140.

While the newcomers price is $135 (during KS).

Not that an extra $5 is -that- much, but making it more expensive for an upgrader than a newcomer sounds not okay to me.

Edit: I will most likely pick up the FGC upgrade during a discount on Steam in this case.

Depending on when you need an Ultimate, assuming Rookie for standard and assuming that their will be also an upgrade cost of 110$ from FGU Standard to Ultimate (upgrade difference for non Kickstarter prices), then it would be even cheaper to take the 15$ upgrade cost to FGU standard of the Kickstarter and then to upgrade In total 125$ instead of the 140$ you have mentioned (but when you wait for a sale then it might be different of course ^^ But there might be a sale for unity at some point... a lot of factors when you really want to minimise your costs )

[LordEntrails]

I’m not trying to negotiate.
I am making a suggestion that I believe will garner much more KS cash(what they need) without any perceptible costs

Got it I think Caenth has laid it out, but with a little caveat I've added below.

Okay, if I understand this incorrectly, please correct me.

So if I want to upgrade from FGC Standard > FGU Ultimate I will have to pay for the FGC Standard > FGC Ultimate upgrade ($110) + FGC Ultimate > FGU Ultimate ($30). A total of $140.

While the newcomers price is $135 (during KS).

Not that an extra $5 is -that- much, but making it more expensive for an upgrader than a newcomer sounds not okay to me.

Edit: I will most likely pick up the FGC upgrade during a discount on Steam in this case.

The big thing to remember here is we do not know when FGU Beta and FGU v 1 will be available. I think Doug said something like by the end of 2019.

So, if you want FGC Ult now, then you end up paying $5 for it over the next ~ 8 months or so. But if you don't need ult now and just want it for FGU, then you buy FGU Ult through the KS and never get FGC Ult.

I missed the stream, when is the kickstart program, starting?

May 1st.

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Everyone should also keep in mind, very few programs offer any type of tiered upgrade pricing. I keep thinking about things like Turbo Tax, that every year I end up having to pay for. And MS Office Products, that don't give me any discount just because I have the current/previous version. Or games like COD 2 that didn't give me a discount because I had COD, etc.

Yes I'm sure their are some examples, but it seems to be the exception and not the standard. And, even though their are edge cases, try to think of it like SW, what makes sense and can reasonably be implemented?

[ddavison]

There are some cases where buying during the KS is cheaper than buying FGC and then upgrading. It all depends on if you want to use FGC at all while you wait. The release date for FGU is not until Dec 2019. 7 Months of Ultimate is $70 if you did a subscription. FGC Ultimate is stable and usable now. People are assuming the FGU Beta will be stable enough for running your regular games. While I would love for that to be the case, it is still beta software.

[Trenloe]

We dont know what the prices will be outside of this...

Actually, we do - see post #9 in this very thread.

[damned]

Actually, we do - see post #9 in this very thread.

Many things have been said over many long months.
If someone buys FGC in November this year I imagine there will be some upgrade path to FGU that is not covered in that post. If they dont I imagine that license sales would drop off quite steeply for a number of months for example.
There are many variables that might come into play.
I was replying specifically to someone who was looking at various options on upgrading including waiting for the Steam Sales to do the Ultimate upgrade and then do an upgrade to FGU...
The posted prices cover the kickstarter and the standard pricing model.
There are license sales throughout the year and this post doesnt rule out the possibility of another upgrade window somewhere down the track. Hence I posted what I did as part of the larger response.

[Trenloe]

I was replying specifically to someone who was looking at various options on upgrading including waiting for the Steam Sales to do the Ultimate upgrade and then do an upgrade to FGU...

Sorry, my mistake. It sounded like you were saying we didn't know what the normal prices would be outside of the kickstarter, and that "probably they will just be the standard/ultimate buy price" - which post #9 confirms this will be the case.