DOE: Locations Extension

[LordEntrails]

Hi Everyone - just donated to support dulux-oz and plan to use the excellent location and weather extensions. Has anyone developed locations using the extension for any area(s) in the Forgotten Realms and made them available? Seems that this would be a helpful community project if not, although may fall foul of copyright laws.

Best, Kerrigaj

No, but it has been discussed. Their are some questions regarding licensing and intellectual property restrictions. Many of the place names in the Forgotten Realms are protected, but could be distributed through the license on the DMsGuild. Their is also the DOE license. Make sure you read the license that you agreed to by installing any of the DOE extensions.

That being said, Dulux is quiet friendly and has agreed to other licensing for products on the DMsGuild, so I know he's open to discussions on similar projects.

[kerrigaj]

No, but it has been discussed.

Thanks for the update. Would be a major undertaking, even if based on some of the excellent work in the fandom Wiki and other sources.

Kerrigaj

[dulux-oz]

Just donated to support dulux-oz

And thank you - I was wondering who it was (matching a real name to a handle/alias can be challenging)

[Erin Righ]

just donated to support dulux-oz...

Best, Kerrigaj

I try to do it yearly, as I use most of his extensions

[dulux-oz]

I try to do it yearly, as I use most of his extensions

And again, thank you - although I don't have a way of knowing which donation is your's (when you make it) so I can't thak you at the time - so I'm thanking you now

[jrh18]

Thanks for the update. Would be a major undertaking, even if based on some of the excellent work in the fandom Wiki and other sources.

Kerrigaj

I have but it has been for personal use only. Definitely concerns in property rights, but something could be released on dmsguild I bet for free. That should get around the licensing.not sure how dulux-oz feels about that. Hopefully since it would be free he would be ok with it but I understand to selll a fog module with his extensions requires a commercial license, which makes sense to me.

With the dms guild the tough part would be maps. Only maps that are self created or WotC released can be used.

I am working on a dms guild product on waterdeep with a fog module accompanying it.

I would be happy to help with this.

[LordEntrails]

I have but it has been for personal use only. Definitely concerns in property rights, but something could be released on dmsguild I bet for free. That should get around the licensing.not sure how dulux-oz feels about that. Hopefully since it would be free he would be ok with it but I understand to selll a fog module with his extensions requires a commercial license, which makes sense to me.

With the dms guild the tough part would be maps. Only maps that are self created or WotC released can be used.

I am working on a dms guild product on waterdeep with a fog module accompanying it.

I would be happy to help with this.

Why would you want to "get around the license"? But actually, from my reading of the DOE licensing, releasing anything that requires the use of a DOE extension on the Guild or elsewhere would be in breach of the DOE license. You have to remember, Intellectual Property licensing is not about whether you distribute something for free or for cost. It's about the right to control distribution, regardless of money or intent (with the exception of educational fair use).

But as I said earlier, if you want to distribute something on the Guild or elsewhere that uses a DOE extension, just ask Dulux.

[jrh18]

@lordentrails. I was meaning that if it is released on DMS guild you would be within licensing parameters to release something with WoTC licensed content. If you release something on DMS guild you have access to all of WoTCs written content about forgotten realms.

I hadn't looked at Dulux's license, I know that there are several different types around. Creative commons has the ability for you to get paid if the licensed materials are used in a commercial product but also allow for usage in open source or free products with just attribution. I incorrectly assumed that was the type of license since he releases it for personal use here with no cost.

I wasn't trying to cut Dulux out of anything, I was thinking that a free released module using his creations would be inline with how the extensions have been released to the FG community for use. Regardless your right asking Dulux is the best way to go.

[Myrdin Potter]

There is no breach of license if you request permission first. All dulux has asked for in the past is ask him (and the license makes it clear), which, since it is his IP, seems reasonable enough.

The DMs Guild site does allow you to use actual FR place names and content from WoTC books as long as it is not a simple cut-and-paste. For example, recreating the entire SCAG and releasing it for free is a no-no. Making a DOE-locations file with the FR names and properly sourced content should be fine. If you are using dulux's ip, ask him first. DMs Guild is already free and clear for Fantasy Grounds itself.

[mozmonar]

Is there a way to duplicate a previously detailed location, specifically a shop? I can't seem to drag and drop a copy like other links in FG.

In the game I play, Shadow of the Demon Lord, items have an availability rating that is determined by the size of the city population. There are 4 ratings, Common, Uncommon, Rare, and Exotic. Common items can be found virtually everywhere. Uncommon items can be found in slightly higher population areas along with Common items. And so on with Rare and Ultimately Exotic which can be found in major metropolitan areas.

So in my case I want to create not so much a specific store as 4 generic stores representing the available goods for Common, Uncommon, Rare, and Exotic locations. In order to not have to create each one from scratch I'd like to create a Common store, copy it and add Uncommon items, copy that and add Rare items, etc. Is this doable?