Collaborative Effects Sharing Thread

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March 10th, 2021, 14:50
bmos

Collaborative Effects Sharing Thread

Since we didn't get the effects library thread when 3.5E and PF1e forums split last year (and that thread was a mishmash of PF and D&D content anyway), let's start a PF1e-specific one!

Ancestral Enmity; IFT: TYPE(gnome); ATK: 2
Ancestral Enmity; IFT: TYPE(dwarf); ATK: 2

Combat Expertise; ATK: -1 [-QBAB] ,melee; AC: 1 [QBAB] dodge
Deadly Aim; ATK: -1 [-QBAB] ,ranged; DMG: 1 [QBAB] ,ranged; DMG: 1 [QBAB] ,ranged
Furious Focus; IF: CUSTOM(Power Attack 2-H); ATK: 1 [QBAB] ,melee (must be set to single roll)
Magic Weapon; ATK: 1 enhancement; DMG: 1 enhancement; DMGTYPE: magic
Mobility; AC: 4 dodge,opportunity
March 10th, 2021, 14:52
bmos

size changes

effects to handle enlarge/reduce person or other size-adjusting spells are here.
March 10th, 2021, 15:18
bmos

Smite

Smite-Target ([TARGET], 1 day duration)
Smite; IFT: CUSTOM(Smite-Target); IFT: ALIGN(evil); DMGTYPE: force; ATK: [CHA]; DMG: [LVL]; AC: [CHA] deflection ([SELF], 1 day duration, must be dragged onto the target while holding shift)
Smite Bonus; IFT: CUSTOM(Smite-Target); IFT: ALIGN(evil); TYPE(evil, dragon, undead); DMG: [LVL] ([SELF], "apply each once", short duration recommended)

This fully automates Smite Evil.
March 10th, 2021, 15:23
bmos

Power Attack

Power Attack (1-H); ATK: -1 [-QBAB] ,melee; DMG: 1 [QBAB] ,melee; DMG: 1 [QBAB] ,melee
Power Attack (2-H); ATK: -1 [-QBAB] ,melee; DMG: 1 [QBAB] ,melee; DMG: 1 [QBAB] ,melee; DMG: 1 [QBAB] ,melee
March 10th, 2021, 15:46
DCrumb

Since Flat-footed is a built-in condition in PF1e, does Mobility need the Custom tag?
March 10th, 2021, 16:03
bmos

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCrumb

Since Flat-footed is a built-in condition in PF1e, does Mobility need the Custom tag?

good point, perhaps not. I'll test it and, if not, update that post.
EDIT: looks like it doesn't need that section at all if I set the bonus type to dodge (since dodge bonus is ignored if no dex to ac -- such as when flat-footed).
March 10th, 2021, 18:28
Svandal

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmos

Smite; IFT: CUSTOM(Smite-Target); DMGTYPE: bleed; IFT: ALIGN(evil); ATK: [CHA]; DMG: [LVL] (must be applied to self, 1 day duration)
Smite Bonus; IFT: ALIGN(evil); TYPE(outsider); IFT: CUSTOM(Smite-Target); DMG: [LVL] (must be applied to self, "apply each once", recommend short duration)
Smite-Target; IF: ALIGN(evil); IFT: CUSTOM(Smite); ATK: [-CHA] (must be applied to creature. technically it should be a targeted AC bonus against the creature but I find this easier/faster).

Smite; IFT: CUSTOM(Smite-Target); DMGTYPE: force; IFT: ALIGN(evil); ATK: [CHA]; DMG: [LVL]; AC: [CHA] (must be applied to self, no duration which means infinite duration)
Smite-Target (must be applied to target)

Three things. Bleed is a damage type added in Kels extension (pretty sure), so force should be the "best" choice.
And I you should have the AC on yourself since it is an deflection bonus and this prevents stacking issues. Also it is confusing to make it apply to attack rolls.
Finally, why a short duration on the smite bonus? I would rather suggest a long or infinite duration on it, but apply only once. It will not trigger until the conditions are met, and it is easy to forget about it if you dont have it on yourself.
March 10th, 2021, 18:58
bmos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Svandal

Smite; IFT: CUSTOM(Smite-Target); DMGTYPE: force; IFT: ALIGN(evil); ATK: [CHA]; DMG: [LVL]; AC: [CHA] (must be applied to self, no duration which means infinite duration)
Smite-Target (must be applied to target)

Three things. Bleed is a damage type added in Kels extension (pretty sure), so force should be the "best" choice.
And I you should have the AC on yourself since it is an deflection bonus and this prevents stacking issues. Also it is confusing to make it apply to attack rolls.
Finally, why a short duration on the smite bonus? I would rather suggest a long or infinite duration on it, but apply only once. It will not trigger until the conditions are met, and it is easy to forget about it if you dont have it on yourself.

1. thanks, that explains why I've been having issues with it not overcoming DR (I switched to bleed from Kel's drbypass when the feb16th update came out and hadn't taken time to test it all thoroughly).
2. I know, but this is very risky because it relies on the player targeting that effect correctly (otherwise it applies to everyone). The posted version doesn't have this shortcoming (but does potentially allow two stacked deflection bonuses that shouldn't stack). I'm changing it to your way since it's been discussed here now and it is more correct.
3. "it is easy to forget about it if you don't have it on yourself." you can't leave it on yourself since it only applies when you first smite a creature. having no duration means it will sit there in the combat tracker pointlessly until you realize and delete it.
March 10th, 2021, 19:20
Kelrugem

DMGTYPE is not a targetable effect, so, it cannot be combined with IFT as in your smite effect :) (the targetable thingy is from my extension, too :p)
March 10th, 2021, 19:25
bmos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelrugem

DMGTYPE is not a targetable effect, so, it cannot be combined with IFT as in your smite effect :) (the targetable thingy is from my extension, too :p)

Broke out the AC bonus into a seperate effect to hopefully work around this limitation, thanks!

Can you explain "the targetable thingy is from my extension, too" more fully?
Your extension makes DMGTYPE targetable?
March 10th, 2021, 19:36
Kelrugem

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmos

Broke out the AC bonus into a seperate effect to hopefully work around this limitation, thanks!

Can you explain "the targetable thingy is from my extension, too" more fully?
Your extension makes DMGTYPE targetable?

Yup, that DMGTYPE is targetable (such that it works in combination with IFT as in IFT: CUSTOM(...); DMGTYPE: ... ) I have added in my package :) That is why that effect worked for you ingame then :D
March 10th, 2021, 20:04
bmos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelrugem

Yup, that DMGTYPE is targetable (such that it works in combination with IFT as in IFT: CUSTOM(...); DMGTYPE: ... ) I have added in my package :) That is why that effect worked for you ingame then :D

Ah. Can the basic one look at CT targeting when making attacks but not individual effect targeting?
March 10th, 2021, 20:10
Kelrugem

exactly, that individual effect targeting does not work (using the reticle of that effect I mean) :) Though one just needs to add the rTarget information to the effect check to make it possible :) (Though for DMGSTYPE I made some if-clause for the targeting back then because I was very careful, but that is not needed actually; was at the very beginning of my coding times such that I didn't know certain things :D)
March 10th, 2021, 20:16
bmos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelrugem

exactly, that individual effect targeting does not work (using the reticle of that effect I mean) :) Though one just needs to add the rTarget information to the effect check to make it possible :) (Though for DMGSTYPE I made some if-clause for the targeting back then because I was very careful, but that is not needed actually; was at the very beginning of my coding times such that I didn't knew certain things :D)

Awesome, then I think the change I have made to Smite should automate it fully with no extensions.
March 10th, 2021, 20:22
Kelrugem

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmos

Awesome, then I think the change I have made to Smite should automate it fully with no extensions.

I am not sure; so, DMGTYPE: force won't work correctly if after an IFT since DMGTYPE is not targetable :) (Or I saw the wrong edit and you edit it just now :D)
March 10th, 2021, 20:40
bmos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelrugem

I am not sure; so, DMGTYPE: force won't work correctly if after an IFT since DMGTYPE is not targetable :) (Or I saw the wrong edit and you edit it just now :D)

Ah, that's what I was trying to ask about. Just tested it and indeed it is not working.

EDIT: DMGTYPE can now be targeted in 3.5E and PFRPG. The Smite effects in the earlier post have been updated and are correct.
March 10th, 2021, 20:44
Kelrugem

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmos

Ah, that's what I was trying to ask about. Just tested it and indeed it is not working.

Aaah, yeah, it is always a bit tricky to speak about those targeting stuff because there is target and target :D In other words, every effect has a reticle right to its entry; targetable effects can make use of that. If they do, then they also work in combination with IFT as needed for Smite :) Those effects have a (T) in their description in the wiki :) (though conditions with (T) are targetable but won't work with IFT; so, IFT: CUSTOM(blah); invisible actually won't work in the native code. I am not sure though whether this was an oversight because it was easy to make targetable conditions work with IFT in that way in the overlay package :) )