Better Combat Effects

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Originally Posted by Kelrugem

Is the [-1d2] added by BCE? Usually you cannot have such effects in native FG, so, no rolled but then fixed value. But I know that you also use my Extended Automation and Overlays where this gets added :) However, as usual when you use square brackets in effects, you need to apply such an effect from the action tab of an (N)PC, and you need to have loaded my extension (in case BCE does not also add it), otherwise [-1d2] won't be replaced with the rolled value :) Or did you do it correctly?

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I use BCE and extended automations. this is what I have been testing in the actions tab (its messy due to testing)

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Quasit poison -> DC 13 Fort save. Dex -1d2 per round for 6 rounds OR until 2 saves are made.

And this is where I start getting more confused figuring out what can be used where. I am trying to sort it out and write it down. thx for the patience and timeAttachment 52668

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Originally Posted by Morenu

I use BCE and extended automations. this is what I have been testing in the actions tab (its messy due to testing)

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Quasit poison -> DC 13 Fort save. Dex -1d2 per round for 6 rounds OR until 2 saves are made.

And this is where I start getting more confused figuring out what can be used where. I am trying to sort it out and write it down. thx for the patience and timeAttachment 52668

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My knowledge of 3.5E is limited. I didn't know what MULTI: DEX:[-1d2] was. I poked around and not in the ruleset. I see you run PF Effect Removal Extension. I see that also has a tag called STACK. That extension might conflict with BCE. I still need to look at STACK and how it works in 3.5E currently, but regardless still might conflict.

Yup, good point; MULTI and STACK are from the PF Effect Removal Extension; so, it could be indeed an incompatibility with BCE, Morenu, as rhagelstrom wrote :)

well crud. I really like the remove command. I will turn that off and switch multi to stack and try it.

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Originally Posted by Kelrugem

Is the [-1d2] added by BCE? Usually you cannot have such effects in native FG, so, no rolled but then fixed value. But I know that you also use my Extended Automation and Overlays where this gets added :) However, as usual when you use square brackets in effects, you need to apply such an effect from the action tab of an (N)PC, and you need to have loaded my extension (in case BCE does not also add it), otherwise [-1d2] won't be replaced with the rolled value :) Or did you do it correctly?

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If I do

DEX:[-1d2]

It will generate either DEX: -1 or DEX: -2 and I confirmed it gives a -1 AC effect when it totals -2 or -3

Right now, after removing PF Effect Removal Extension STACK: DEX:[-1d2] does not roll 1d2

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I turned off PF Effect Removal Extension and and STACK: DEX:-2 does nothing (no Dex -2). The STACK note says "The option "Allow Duplicate Effects" must be set to off" but I do not see that option in the Options list, but it is allowing STACK: DEX:-2 to show up multiple times.

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Originally Posted by Morenu

If I do

DEX:[-1d2]

It will generate either DEX: -1 or DEX: -2 and I confirmed it gives a -1 AC effect when it totals -2 or -3

Right now, after removing PF Effect Removal Extension STACK: DEX:[-1d2] does not roll 1d2

Edit:
I turned off PF Effect Removal Extension and and STACK: DEX:-2 does nothing (no Dex -2). The STACK note says "The option "Allow Duplicate Effects" must be set to off" but I do not see that option in the Options list, but it is allowing STACK: DEX:-2 to show up multiple times.

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Maybe this may be another incompatibility with BCE and Extended automation and overlays :) If I find time, I will check this, too, but currently working a lot

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Originally Posted by Kelrugem

Maybe this may be another incompatibility with BCE and Extended automation and overlays :) If I find time, I will check this, too, but currently working a lot

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no worries, let me turn off your ext and try again.

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with Extended automation and overlays, and PF Effect Removal off:
STACK: DEX: -2
added multiple time to a creature with no effect

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So I think this is something with BCE and another EXT. will load up BCE by itself and try things later...

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So I loaded a test PFRPG server and BCE is the only ext (I turned on a few library items to make things easy)

DEX:[-1d2]
does not work

DEX:-2
works but does not stack (normal)

STACK: DEX:-2
can be added to the same creature multiple times BUT the DEX:-2 is not working

tested at this point with the photo below, then added an AC-5 to just make sure the DEF EFFECT was showing (see the pic below)

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Hope that helps (and hopefully I am not just making a mistake and all this is unneeded)

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Originally Posted by Morenu

no worries, let me turn off your ext and try again.

EDIT:

with Extended automation and overlays, and PF Effect Removal off:
STACK: DEX: -2
added multiple time to a creature with no effect

Attachment 52678

So I think this is something with BCE and another EXT. will load up BCE by itself and try things later...

Edit 2:

So I loaded a test PFRPG server and BCE is the only ext (I turned on a few library items to make things easy)

DEX:[-1d2]
does not work

DEX:-2
works but does not stack (normal)

STACK: DEX:-2
can be added to the same creature multiple times BUT the DEX:-2 is not working

tested at this point with the photo below, then added an AC-5 to just make sure the DEF EFFECT was showing (see the pic below)

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Hope that helps (and hopefully I am not just making a mistake and all this is unneeded)

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Looking at this it looks like you are doing STACK: instead of STACK; STACK doesn't take any parameters.
I tested STACK out and it appears to be working as intended in my limited testing with 3.5E. So I can't reproduce without more specific information

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edit: I'll also say that settings param isn't there for 3.5E because 5E allows duplicates by default while 3.5E does not so that setting option doesn't apply to 3.5E.

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Originally Posted by rhagelstrom

Version update 2.37
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Fixed CoreRPG updated broke -X from working properly
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New issue with [Ability-X] . My original patch does not fix this either - there was some major changes in the code to capture -X in effects, but they seem to not work in 3.5e. Only modules loaded are AE and BCE (and AE because it makes easy to equip/unequip effects with items). Error is also the same if I only load BCE and pull an effect from the effect list, but then you don't see what's causing it.
Side note: no error in BCEG (when made loadable for 3.5e). There it works with correct value.

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OY ok, and this is why I want a better way to learn all this without bugging the creators..

STACK;DEX: [-1d2]

works perfectly. thank you