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Hi,
Would it be possible to add the 2024 version of the Exhaustion rules as an option? I kinda like the new rules, but I don't wanna switch anything else to the 2024 version (yet).
I see there's an option for the playtest version of the rules, but that's less severe than the PHB one.
yes I can look at it. It's not a huge change. Im generally not a fan of options because 95% of the time people dont' know what they do unless you go read up on and then maybe you still don't know what they do. That is my biggest concern, can I add it without adding something. That said and most of these are house rules, maybe not big deal as they are labeled as such.
It would be great if you could. As you pointed out, these are just house rules, so as long as they are labeled, I don't think people can get too confused.Quote:
Originally Posted by rhagelstrom
It would also help those who want to start incorporate some aspects of the new edition without fully transitioning to the new rules (I for one, will be waiting until the Monster Manual comes out).
Version Update: v2.2
* Changed: House Rule Minus to d20 to support the option of a multiplier of one, two, or three
* Updated: Icon
* Changed: License
Note: If you used the One DND house rule for minus to d20 rolls, this update probably breaks it and you'll have to cycle it to 1 to get it back to how you had it.
I've been using the -1 to d20 tests for some time now and loving it.
It appears that with the update the -1 (or -2 or -3) doesn't work in conjunction with grapple checks through Generic Actions. To the best of my knowledge this did work previously. It simply doesn't apply the penalty now.
Thank you for all you do with all of these extensions! I would not be using FG without them.
This never worked as GA constructs its own custom roll. I can add it to the list of things to look at.
Version Update: v2.3
Support for Generic Actions
Amazing. Thank you!
It appears that (with only Exhausted v2.3 loaded) FG is picking up each instance of Exhaustion twice when rolling a skill check from the PC sheet:
Attachment 62495
I tried cycling through all of the options to no avail.
This doesn't happen when a saving throw is dropped on the PC from an NPC CT entry or if the PC makes an attack roll.
Pushed a fix for this
Perfect. Thanks much!
Version Update: 2.5
Fixed: Combination of cycling options may cause script error
Version Update: v2.6
Feature: House Rule Affect Spell Save DC for d20 roll
Fixed: Spell Save DC d20 roll affected by exhaustion
Everything seems to work great with EXHAUSTION as -1 to d20 tests... except the initiative seems to double-count it:
EXHAUSTION: n gives [EXHAUSTION:n][EXHAUSTION:n] on initiative rolls.
Attachment 63217
Actually, this seems to be the case regardless of the setting for "House Rule: Exhaustion is -1 to d20 roll"; It picks up 2 instances of whatever it is set to.
Hi,
with just this extension on (v2.6) I'm not getting any exhaustion effects to work. I'm not sure when this started happening.
Any thoughts?
Cheers,
Simon
It's working for me with no other exts loaded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ludd_G
I think the VERBOSE is not showing but the checks/saves should be working correctly based on your settings. Are you trying to do the 2014 rules or 2024?
It's with 2014 rules. I've tried 2 different campaigns as the first one I noticed the issue in had a couple of newer extensions just added, so to eliminate that i tested an older ongoing campaign that i haven't tweaked the ext loadout for and they both suffer the same problem.
One thing that caught my eye is that the new campaign has started throwing this error on load:
[3/10/2025 7:40:20 PM] [ERROR] Script execution error: [string "CoreRPG:..gn/scripts/masterindex_window.lua"]:406: attempt to index field 'subwindow' (a nil value)
but I think that is one of the newly instated exts as the other campign doesn't throw this rror, but Exhaustion still is having no effect, no matter the settings in options.
Cheers,
Simon
Try cycling all the settings in EXHAUSTED in the options. See if that works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ludd_G
Yeah, tried that, nothing. It's very strange.
Oh, and sometimes as I increased the Exhausted level it would start saying Exhausted 6 or even 8 in the chat output for actual exhaustion levels of 3 or 4 (it's a bit random) but still not do anything.
In a bit i'll try disabling Exhaustion, do an FG update then re-enable and do another FG update in case my download of the extension has got corrupted.
Try a new campaign to see if it’s working in that first.
Ok, so i tried a new 5e campaign, just Exhaustion loaded. I imported PCs from the 5e tutorial campaign as I thought they'd be the most straight forward builds and unfortunately it's still not working, but other effects work, such a Prone giving disadvantage on attack rolls.
ARGGHHHHHH!
Simon
Can you send me your campaign? I know you are saying you are using a new campaign with imported PCs from the tutorial. Did you change any settings?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ludd_G
Are you using legacy 2014 rules or 2024? If you want exhaustion to work for 2014. You need to set the option to "Game: Rules Version Legacy" in options of FGVTT under game settings.
To see the verbose, you need to make sure that setting is set in the Exhausted options "CT: Verbose Exhaustion"
If you still can't get it to work, give me the campaign file and I will see if it's happening to me.
I’ll take a look at this sometime this week. I know it’s been said but if you haven’t tried cycling the options cyclers.
Morning,Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDDT
Yeah, I tried flipping through the Exhaustion options, didn't help unfortunately. So, here is the test campaign, set for Legacy, with just Exhaustion loaded. Just a heads up I've been using this extension for a long time without issue, and this started to happen out of the blue.
Thank you all for all your help, it's much appreciated.
(hopefully I've just done something stupid which I can easily remedy)
Cheers,
Simon
So I used this campaign and it didn't work right out of the box, so I cycled through the options and then it worked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ludd_G
Make sure to toggle:
"Game rules version: legacy"
"House Rule: Exhaustion is -1 to d20 roll: off"
By toggle I mean, set them to something else, then back to what you want.
Hi,
so, even though I honestly had tried cycling through all the options previously to no avail, I decided, as per your mentioning it above, to just try cycling: "House Rule: Exhaustion is -1 to d20 roll: off" without messing with anything else and it seems to be the problem/solution, at least as far as I can tell. And, with a bit of testing, the fix seems to stick on relaunch, which is good!
Thank for helping me track down a work around, and hopefully this info will help in getting a real fix sorted.
Thank you loads for you time and patience.
Cheers,
Simon
Found an error so I'll push an update when finished testingQuote:
Originally Posted by Ludd_G
Thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by rhagelstrom
Version Update: v2.7
Fixed: Options not working for 20 rolls sometimes depending
Removed verbose option (Walk this way handles SPEED, Life Ledger handles HP and Char Effects Display can handle the rest if it wants to)
Hi,
just got down to test v2.7 and unfortunately it isn't adding any level of exhaustion after Healing from '0'HP. This is in both an on going campaign (with many other extensions) and a newly created 5e campaign with just this extension using pre-made PCs from the Tutorial Campaign. I've tried cycling through the options but nothing so far.
Also I just tried manually adding the Exhaustion condition from the effects panel and it refuses to be added to the PC (all other conditions add as expected).
Cheers (and sorry),
Simon
push a fix. missed that oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Ludd_G
All seem to be working now. Thank you!Quote:
Originally Posted by rhagelstrom
Cheers,
Simon
I'm still seeing Exhaustion get double-counted for Initiative rolls only (PCs and NPCs from Character Sheets):
Attachment 63773
Additionally (and much less important, and not really your responsibility):
Exhaustion doesn't get picked up at all on Initiative rolls for NPCs by Right Click - Radial Menu - Roll Individual Initiative (via Critically Awesome Essentials extension).
ffs. Pushed a fix for the first, I can't do anything about the second. That's be an issue with CAEQuote:
Originally Posted by rocketvaultgames
Perfect. Thanks much!Quote:
Originally Posted by rhagelstrom
Hi everyone,
I don't know how to make immunity to exhaustion work. I tried, and I still can put exhaustion on Skeletons.
Also, I don't know how to make the Tireless feature (Ranger) work.
Immunity works the same as immunity to any other condition. Of Course if you type it directly into the ct it will let you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobs
Tireless.
Use 2024 rules, Ranger and have the Feature Tireless
I am seeing an issue between this extension and 5e auras. I do not know where the issue would be manifested or fixed, so I am starting here. I am playing legacy 5e (2014 rules) exhaustion rules. When a character reaches level 4 exhaustion specifically, it half's their HP. When a character is at level 4 and comes into contact with a PC that has an aura, their HP resets to the max of their 1/2 HP status.
To clarify, Character A has 90 HP and is at Ex level 4 and is capped at 45 hp. The are damaged, so their HP are 20. If they come into contact with an "aura" from another PC (not HP related at all) they are immediately reset to 45 HP every time.