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Yes, I mean that in the module they are links to tables. If such links are actually working in other modules in the reader then I expect they should work in this module too. I wasn't aware that such links worked in the reader.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lo Zeno
Edit: I had a look at the DMG and I don't see any such links working there either.
In the legacy DMG, links to (rollable) tables are not there (see blow). But for embedded text tables those are included, even those with dice ranges).
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It's going to depend on how the module was written. Anything developed in the last year might have tables in written out form as well as a link to the table. However anything earlier than that would probably only have the link to the table and there wouldn't be any text in the reference showing what the table looked like. As far as I'm aware no links show up in anything in My Library (like to encounters, images, parcels etc) so I'm assuming that's something that would need to be worked on, if it's even possible to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordEntrails
I appreciate the technical reasons behind it, still it doesn't detract from the facts that it's still a bug, and that it undermines the utility of the online reader.
Anything that is unintended behaviour is a bug, and I honestly doubt that it was intended that huge parts of some books would be inaccessible from the reader.
It undermines the utility of the reader because if I use the online reader so that I can read the books and do some prep for the next sessions, as a DM, without having to sit at my computer and load Fantasy Grounds to read the manuals, for example by reading on my tablet on the couch, or on my daily commute on the train, or anywhere where I can just sit and look at my phone etc, and then I get this:
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...1&d=1772011802
then, unless I have the paper book as well (which I don't most of the time, if I buy a book on FG's store I tend not to buy it physical because I don't have space for huge libraries in my home), then the only option I have left is to wait until I can get home and sit at my computer and load FGU. So all the convenience of the online reader suddenly disappears, I'm back to the days pre-online reader. Which is fine, but then it makes me want to use the online reader less, because if this kind of content is missing, when the content of certain books almost completely tables, then why use it at all?
It's especially baffling because in the very same book, just a few pages above, you can find tables that are printed, not linked:
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...1&d=1772012198
but until I came here and posted about it I would have never been able to understand why some tables are there, and some are missing. The "but it's a link!" excuse, it's a technical implementation of how it's used inside FGU, it does not excuse the exclusion of the content from the online reader. Arguably, the fact that tables are inaccessible in these books means that the content of the books is altered from the original, so I'd even be careful this doesn't break some agreement with the publisher.
Same goes for the pictures that show only the base layer and do not show the layers that in FGU are "DM only", basically all the maps that do not show the letters to reference each room, that I reported weeks ago.
Since this is all still in Beta it's possible that such links will eventually be clickable in the reader. We'll need one of the devs to comment on that possibility.
As Zacchaeus mentioned, the Online Reader is still in beta.
The first few passes over the last several months were to get all the books online in whatever format we quickly could in order to leverage the catalog, and to see what work needed to be done. The next steps are to refine the styles for popular publishers; and to flesh out pieces that didn't migrate well (such as these). Each piece needs to be tackled one at a time. Joshua will specifically be looking at table record popouts.
The reason why the other tables are visible in the book is that they were added specifically as graphical tables, not rollable table records. If you look at the manual in FG from which the Online Reader version was generated, that section only contains a link for those tables to a separate rollable table record.
Regards,
JPG
Explorer's Guide to Wildemount - Missing Images, text errors.
Chapter 5: Adventures in Wildemount
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/libra...o-ac9947f5.jpg
2nd SmiteWorks Developer's Note - https://www.fantasygrounds.com/libra...s-62c106d8.jpg[missing image with some code]
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/libra...s-62c106d8.jpg
Earthquake and Sahuagin Attack
2 missing Maps [GM and Player, no space in between]
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/libra...)-fa8ee198.jpghttps://www.fantasygrounds.com/libra...)-fa8ee198.jpgMap: Palma Flora (Players)
Wavechaser
Map 5.2: Wavechaser
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/libra...p-9db704f8.jpghttps://www.fantasygrounds.com/libra...p-9db704f8.jpg
Descent into Sharkfeather Abyss
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/libra...)-25c0f095.jpgMap: Ruined Palma Flora (Players)
A Boom in the Night
Map 5.4: Lower Hupperdook
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/libra...p-3751f2dc.jpg
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/libra...p-3751f2dc.jpg
H1. Ironlot Streets
Theres no space in between the Two NPC links but both links work.
NPC: Sken ZabrissNPC: Kobold Underling
H2. Gearhole Prison
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/libra...t-ccc87e30.jpgHandout A: Burned Letter Fragments
H6. Nima Cinnarid's House
Map 5.6: Nima Cinnarid's House
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/libra...t-06698105.jpg
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/libra...p-256eabfb.jpg
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/libra...t-06698105.jpg
Silver Falls Cavern - Missing 2 maps have no space in between.
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/libra...)-79a2b0d7.jpghttps://www.fantasygrounds.com/libra...)-79a2b0d7.jpgMap 5.7: Silver Falls Cavern (GM)Map: Silver Falls Cavern (Players)
Stahlmast's Lair
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/libra...)-3172439b.jpgMap: Stahlmast's Lair (Players)
Croaker Cave Features
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/libra...)-6dcd9205.jpgMap: Croaker Cave (Players)
Salsvault Features
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/libra...)-15d11cb3.jpgMap: Salsvault (Players)
B3. Sunken Boneyard
Skr'a S'orsk
B9. Fort Venture
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/libra...)-41223139.jpgMap: Fort Venture (Players)
Sahuagin Warlock Of Uk'otoa - 2 NPCs no space.
NPC: Sahuagin Warlock of Uk'otoaNPC: Sahuagin Warlock of Uk'otoa
We tried merging the main and adventure module for this book, and something went wrong. I reverted it back two separate entries under the same book, and all the images are working again. I'll make a note about the missing space when there are multiple links next to each other, but that is not yet fixed.
Tactical Map Adventure Atlas
Janda Yethara [NPC] has "Collapse null None" under Actions.
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Btw, this made me realize that, opening an NPC right sidebar panel obstructs reading the end of the text [1920 x 1080]. Because in Brave browser, a side-scroll thingy doesn't pop up for me to slide the screen to the right.
Missing Maps:
- Blood Stone Circle Areas: DM Map: Blood Stone CircleTactical Map: Blood Stone Circle
- Fort First Watch Areas: DM Map: FortTactical Map: Fort
- Giant Troubles: Image: Stone Giant
- Caves of Tapeesa Areas: DM Map: Caves of TepeesaTactical Map: Caves of Tepeesa
- Isle of Eternal Flame Areas: DM Map: Isle of Eternal FlameTactical Map: Isle of Eternal Flame
- Chromatic Vault Areas: DM Map: Chromatic VaultTactical Map: Chromatic Vault
- Tallow Town Areas: DM Map: Tallow TownTactical Map: Tallow town
Oh! Traps/Hazard have links now. Cool! :)
The maps you mention are just links and some links haven't been fully integrated into the reader.
The NPC is an issue with the module which I will try to fix.