There is only one version of the client - only the license type changes - so the demo is the client and therefore the same version as any licensed client.
As noted in the first post Classic will still be available but will not get any updates after the cut off date.
I think you misunderstood what they were asking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zacchaeus
1) Will the FGC client still remain available for downloading (for any reason, may need to reinstall or install on a new computer)?
2) Will that new and reinstalled client installations be able to get the final update as it set on 24-JUN-2021?
I thought that was the questions I answered. At any rate, yes to both.Quote:
Originally Posted by deer_buster
Thanks - much appreciated.
Exceedingly good move.
Still grumpy that the actions tab is broken for mid-high level play in unity currently with god awful performance. But having one product to focus on gives me more confidence that it will actually be fixed at some point in time.
I agree, I have a party of 16th level, people and sometimes is laggy in the actions tab. Performance now should be the first thing to improve.
I would have killed them all by now. Level 16!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by *Neuro*
I'm just hearing about this now– I've been doing all of my updates through the program itself – and only because FG is having some type of sale. $150 is kind of steep at this time – I know I'm not the only one who has been out of work this last year and 1/2. And yes, I know that that's at half price.
You can keep using FG Classic after this date. You won't be able to buy new modules for FGC after this date, but this is probably not a main concern for you at the moment if you are out of work. The upgrade price for you would be $75 with the upgrade discount, not $150. We plan to run the upgrade discount for a while longer, so hopefully that will still be available when you are in a better position financially. In the meantime, you can keep playing on FG Classic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhel
Wait, does this mean if I buy something AFTER the 24th that DID work with classic, I won't get the classic version?Quote:
Originally Posted by ddavison
$75 is a much better option. That I can handle. I just don't see it available to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by ddavison
They are talking about any new content that gets released, like Into the Feywild for instance, would not be looked at being released for Classic. Anything that is in place right now, they wouldn't go out of their way to disable (why would they remove a revenue stream for work they have already performed), so should still be purchasable and work with FGC. The nice part, though, is all of that content has been setup to work with FGU so you're future proofed to some degree.
You won't see the price change until you put it in your cart and go to purchase it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhel
Okay, thanks.
I would think you're correct here, that's what seems logical to me, it's just the specific wording "You won't be able to buy new modules for FGC after this date" that has me questioning. Not "no new modules will be added," but that you won't be able to BUY (and new in this context could mean "new to me").Quote:
Originally Posted by BaneTBC
Again, I think you're probably correct, I just wanted to make sure.
Anything that is currently released and running on classic will still continue to work. If you purchase something already released, that currently works for classic it will work even if you purchase after the cutoff date.
If you purchase a new release that was made after the cutoff date, that product will not work in classic.
That is correct. Into the Feywild, for instance, won't have an FGC version. Anything already released that worked with FGC before June 24, will continue to work with FGC after June 24. It won't get any updates, errata, or any other changes though beyond that point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fear Grounds
All the stuff that works in Classic will continue to, but new products won't be made compatible with Classic after the 24th. So only stuff made before the 24th will still support Classic and Unity.
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Originally Posted by ddavison
Not really true IMO,Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiminimonka
I have been working on some conversions over the last few months using FGC and will finish their development in it. By the time i submit them and they are reviewed, it might take months before they show up in the FG shop. I don t see why they would not work with FGC by then unless James purposely reconvert them for FGU of course.
However if i decide to make some updates of any of the module i already converted in the shop with FGU then they might not work for FGC anymore...
Can someone confirm any of this?
There will be nothing new for FGC released by SmiteWorks after June 24th - be it new functionality to existing products or completely new products. This has been re-iterated throughout this thread and was also mentioned in the Developer Newsletter on June 4th (which I assume you receive).Quote:
Originally Posted by readymeal
If you have any concerns or issues then I suggest you raise them with your usual SmiteWorks contact - I assume James.
I don t think you understood my question, Let me rephrase that:Quote:
Originally Posted by Trenloe
why would a module converted with FGC not be compatible with FGC after the 24th of June? Unless i missed an e mail from James or other staff at SW telling me to convert with FGU only.
It may or may not work with FGC - but the updater wont download it and install it for FGC.
Thx mate, that s a lot clearer.Quote:
Originally Posted by damned
No wukkas mate!
My sister's group noticed this with 5e once we got past about level 12 or so. Our solution was that upon opening the actions tab, if you minimize the spell sections you aren't using, it frees up performance quite a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by lostsanityreturned
Ah, so you wanted a technical reason, rather than what functionally will happen. Glad @damned gave you the answer you were looking for. Either way, just in case others reading this aren't clear on this, my statement is 100% accurate and is what will functionally happen after June 24th.Quote:
Originally Posted by readymeal
Wow - gently there. I REALLY like FG and there are 'many' players who use it now because of me. However, your comment here, may well come over as a little harsh. To reference that "... this is probably not a main concern for you at the moment if you are out of work.", is actually rubbish. In work or out of work is not an issue - do you think that just because a person is out of work would not mean for example, that someone might buy them a new module as a gift??
In truth, I understand why you are making the change to Unity - let's be honest, it is likely not 'all' about functionality, it is a lot about money. And that's fine - you are doing a great job and deserve to be rewarded for the excellent work you do. I don't have a problem, but I don't need or want the changes you are making at all - I have both versions, but rarely use Unity. Classic is still better in many ways.
Please ensure that even without updates, you keep classic functioning. I am concerned that none of the new modules will fucntion under Classic - that might in the future, become a game changer for me, depending on how quickly the hassles of unity are sorted out.
The Classic game engine will not run on Mac, it's support on Linux is poor, and it does not do 64bit Windows well at all.
It is a technical issue first and foremost.
Microsoft doesn't support the hundreds of millions of Win7 installations out there any more. Technology is always running into obsolescence.
Despite all the magic users around Classic is on life support only. There is no cure for the limitations in the game engine.
The comment about out of work was in reference to not spending money that you don't have. There was nothing snide or demeaning in the comment.
Classic will work as long as the group is running the right operating systems and as long as no OS updates break it on those.
Its going to go. Eventually. Sooner the better in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfie Lord Noakes
Not sure how to interpret some of your post so I won't bother trying.
It seems you operate with old information and I hope you are not spreading misinformation. Unity is stable and the "hassles" are no more. There has been major release with dynamic lights and other features that are awesome. Minor bugs or quirks are ironed out very fast and if you look the changelogs - they are close to none.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfie Lord Noakes
OK - thanks for your opinion - noted.
Hmmmm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfie Lord Noakes
Troll in the dungeon! Harry Potter.Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonhead
Please keep this thread on topic. If you don't have anything to contribute, please don't. Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiminimonka
I know you have walked the edge of 'not' accusing me, so please do not do so. The misinform is to give information that is knowingly or unknowingly incorrect. Misinformation happens all the time sadly - and most of the time, it is not (I think) unintentional.
However, I am assuming the Unity does have glitches and is not fully stable... unless it has changed since last Sunday when I last played. So it may be fine for you, but it is not for me, and all I can do, is comment if needed, on my own experience, since I do not have 'your' experience.
I have already said that I like the software, support the software and Smiteworks. However, I am not blinkered - if it still needs things sorted as far as I can see, that that is my view, based on my first-hand evidence. I do not need a passive-aggressive threat - it simply will not work on me, but it does you and this forum no credit, to try to be that way.
Please report any issues you have in the House of Healing - Unity sub forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfie Lord Noakes
The fact of the matter, like it or not, is that come June 24th there will not be any new updates/products for Fantasy Grounds Classic. If you want to get updates and access to new products, you'll need to use FG Unity. If you have issues with FG Unity, the best approach is to report them in the House of Healing - Unity sub forum so the devs are made aware and can provide feedback and fixes as needed. This will help to make FG Unity better for you and others.
Agreed.
Please understand, most everyone posting in this thread, and I think everyone responding to you, do not work for or represent SmiteWorks (the company that produces FG). Only those people with an actual "SmiteWorks" tag work for the company, the rest of us are just users like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfie Lord Noakes
And on that note. I think enough ground has been covered on this thread to clearly rehash the original post many times over. Closing the thread.
Regards,
JPG