Kelrugem's extensions

I kind of spotted the problem!!

It reeeeally doesn't like it When I use conditionals related to HP.

For example: "IF: bloodied; ATK: 2" (when at 50% or lower HP, attack increases by 2), or "NIF: wounded; HRESIST: all" (as long as you're at full hp, halve whatever damage you incurr" which basically makes you good for tanking a first hit). The FGU paralysis was because a character had a draconic aura on (AURA: 30 friend; IF: bloodied; FHEAL: 2) which was in turn applied to the whole party and it really smashed things up. I'm still testing things out but as I said before I'm kind of busy lately so I can't extensively check as I usually do. I hope I can make some time soon, though, to see if I can find out more

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Originally Posted by Kelrugem

As we once already wrote in private messages: You have a biiiiiiiiiig load of data, I mean really, that is big :D I know you do not want to do that, but you really have to filter your data and get rid of a lot of it, just load data you need :) Put other things in modules :)

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yeah, I guess I really should... it's just I often add up things so I need to remember to update and delete stuff :s (db.xml being 18 mb right now)

By the way, there is healthy as descriptor, so, you can also write IF: healthy instead of NIF: wounded, but may not matter so much :)

Did you see a slowdown just with these effects, or where there also other effects? Did you test in a clean CT or in a very overcrowded CT? :) If the latter, then the new turbo extension by rhagelstrom might be able to help you: https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/1125/view :)

I think I remember some performance problems related to such things, but not sure anymore about the context; I can check again :)

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Originally Posted by Asgurgolas

I kind of spotted the problem!!

It reeeeally doesn't like it When I use conditionals related to HP.

For example: "IF: bloodied; ATK: 2" (when at 50% or lower HP, attack increases by 2), or "NIF: wounded; HRESIST: all" (as long as you're at full hp, halve whatever damage you incurr" which basically makes you good for tanking a first hit). The FGU paralysis was because a character had a draconic aura on (AURA: 30 friend; IF: bloodied; FHEAL: 2) which was in turn applied to the whole party and it really smashed things up. I'm still testing things out but as I said before I'm kind of busy lately so I can't extensively check as I usually do. I hope I can make some time soon, though, to see if I can find out more



yeah, I guess I really should... it's just I often add up things so I need to remember to update and delete stuff :s (db.xml being 18 mb right now)

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Originally Posted by Kelrugem;682237
Did you see a slowdown just with these effects, or where there also other effects? Did you test in a clean CT or in a very overcrowded CT? :) If the latter, then the new turbo extension by rhagelstrom might be able to help you: [url

https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/1125/view[/url] :)

I think I remember some performance problems related to such things, but not sure anymore about the context; I can check again :)

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Tried, but it evidently clashes with your full overlay since I get

"script execution error: [string "full overlay package:..s/manager_actions.lua"]:37: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'nAdvantage' (a nil value)"

every single time there's an attempt to roll dices (even just picking up and tossing a die in chat), it also blocks any attempt to all and every check: such as rolling saving throws: the error pops up and no die is actually rolled (and no check is completed). This problem does not manifest if I don't load that "turbo" extension though

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Originally Posted by Asgurgolas

Tried, but it evidently clashes with your full overlay since I get

"script execution error: [string "full overlay package:..s/manager_actions.lua"]:37: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'nAdvantage' (a nil value)"

every single time there's an attempt to roll dices (even just picking up and tossing a die in chat), it also blocks any attempt to all and every check: such as rolling saving throws: the error pops up and no die is actually rolled (and no check is completed). This problem does not manifest if I don't load that "turbo" extension though

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ah, thanks, there seems to be an incompatibility then :) I try to investigate :)

Tomorrow I will push a small update for the compatibility with the newest patch of FG :) (no worries if you already updated; you won't see any errors. My extensions just prevent a newest smaller bug fix which I have to integrate in my extensions) (In fact I already did, I just have to find a short time for the upload :) )

So, finally a small update :) Just for compatibility with the newest patch :)

There is also an incompatibility with extra stat to saves extension by Bmos and the turbo extension by rhagelstrom; I hope I can look at these this weekend :)

Rhagelstrom updated the Turbo extension and now it should work with mine again :) see here: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...l=1#post686708

Let us know whether you still face problems :)

Just a short heads-up: I currently prepare a lot for running my FG campaign, it is a lot, but it is fun :) So, at some point I will certainly add new things to my extensions, just managing my campaign stuff :) One of my players actually requested having skill buttons for actions in the action tab, so once I finished preparing the basics of my campaign (it is a lot of homebrew and own story), I hope I can finally turn to that old project of mine related to skill actions :)

Skill buttons in the action tab? What do you mean? :O

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Originally Posted by Asgurgolas

Skill buttons in the action tab? What do you mean? :O

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An older project of mine :D Adding skill actions to the action tab, so that stuff like feints can be coded :) (vs. rolls for example) But every time I started looking at that project something else was going on onto which I had to focus :)

So what kind of actions would be added do you have a list. I am highly interested in what this can become.

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Originally Posted by Kelrugem

An older project of mine :D Adding skill actions to the action tab, so that stuff like feints can be coded :) (vs. rolls for example) But every time I started looking at that project something else was going on onto which I had to focus :)

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Oh, just as concentration rolls are.. that'd be awesome

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Originally Posted by Arimil508

So what kind of actions would be added do you have a list. I am highly interested in what this can become.

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Skill vs skill rolls and just forced skill rolls, something like this :) I have a list already somewhere, especially Svandal did a lot of great suggestion back then, when I were already planning to do that :)

But do not expect anything too soon :D Will certainly take time :) PF2 ruleset already has that, as far as I am aware of, so I can also take a glimpse there :)

Note: There was a new big patch for FGU, I might need to update the extensions :) But I had no time yet to do so, this weekend I am sadly a bit busy, maybe next weekend :)

(but I am positive that my extensions do not need really need a substantial update; so, if you already updated, then no worries, I guess :) )

I'ìll wait, I'll wait (not that I really have time to do anything else either, lately)

Soo, there are updates for all the extended automation extensions and their variants :)

Mainly for compatibility with the patch last week :) But also a fix: There was an incompatibility with Extra Stat to Saves by Bmos; effects for the second stat were not respected for saves following a spell action. This is now working correctly :) Thanks to Zarestia for the report :)

I just pushed another small update because there was some smaller patch for 3.5E/PF1 this week :)

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Thought I had found a problem but it is not with the extension so never mind.

I do apologize if this has already been asked and answered.

For the PC specific tag effects is there a way to put a minimum number into the calculation.

As an example. Divine Favor adds a +1 bonus for every 3 levels with a minimum of +1 and a maximum of +3.

The following effect handles the +1 every 3 levels and the maximum of +3 but it doesn't take care of a minimum of +1 at 1st and 2nd Caster Level
[d3CL3]

I've tried a few other variations to get this effect but none of them have worked.

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Originally Posted by dllewell

I do apologize if this has already been asked and answered.

For the PC specific tag effects is there a way to put a minimum number into the calculation.

As an example. Divine Favor adds a +1 bonus for every 3 levels with a minimum of +1 and a maximum of +3.

The following effect handles the +1 every 3 levels and the maximum of +3 but it doesn't take care of a minimum of +1 at 1st and 2nd Caster Level
[d3CL3]

I've tried a few other variations to get this effect but none of them have worked.

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Oh, I am sorry, I totally forgot to answer you! I read it and wanted to answer later, but I forgot to mark your post as unread again so that I totally forgot it :)

A minimum number does not exist yet, but I can certainly add that; the maximum number comes from a community member and they also provided the code for the minimum number :) I just didn't add that because I would need to figure out some compatibility stuff (though I do not totally remember what my problem was); back then I thought I may not need a minimum number because usually the level configuration is of such a form that it automatically already provides the minimum number, that is, when does a PC get the divine Favor spell? If it is at level 3, then you would not need the minimum number, right? (since your existing effect would already give the correct result from level 3 on) The minimum of an effect number is only needed if the smallest level a PC can get the spell is lower than some threshold specific to the spell's description :)

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Originally Posted by Kelrugem

Oh, I am sorry, I totally forgot to answer you! I read it and wanted to answer later, but I forgot to mark your post as unread again so that I totally forgot it :)

A minimum number does not exist yet, but I can certainly add that; the maximum number comes from a community member and they also provided the code for the minimum number :) I just didn't add that because I would need to figure out some compatibility stuff (though I do not totally remember what my problem was); back then I thought I may not need a minimum number because usually the level configuration is of such a form that it automatically already provides the minimum number, that is, when does a PC get the divine Favor spell? If it is at level 3, then you would not need the minimum number, right? (since your existing effect would already give the correct result from level 3 on) The minimum of an effect number is only needed if the smallest level a PC can get the spell is lower than some threshold specific to the spell's description :)

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Yes, although negative levels exist too and could probably reduce that below the minimum.

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Originally Posted by bmos

Yes, although negative levels exist too and could probably reduce that below the minimum.

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Ah, I see, good point, I will check that mechanism again :)

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Originally Posted by Kelrugem

Oh, I am sorry, I totally forgot to answer you! I read it and wanted to answer later, but I forgot to mark your post as unread again so that I totally forgot it :)

A minimum number does not exist yet, but I can certainly add that; the maximum number comes from a community member and they also provided the code for the minimum number :) I just didn't add that because I would need to figure out some compatibility stuff (though I do not totally remember what my problem was); back then I thought I may not need a minimum number because usually the level configuration is of such a form that it automatically already provides the minimum number, that is, when does a PC get the divine Favor spell? If it is at level 3, then you would not need the minimum number, right? (since your existing effect would already give the correct result from level 3 on) The minimum of an effect number is only needed if the smallest level a PC can get the spell is lower than some threshold specific to the spell's description :)

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Your statements are all correct.

Divine Favor is a 1st level spell so can be gained at 1st level. Which is where the issue arises. At 1st and 2nd level it returns nothing. At 3rd level and above it returns the correct result.

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Originally Posted by dllewell

Your statements are all correct.

Divine Favor is a 1st level spell so can be gained at 1st level. Which is where the issue arises. At 1st and 2nd level it returns nothing. At 3rd level and above it returns the correct result.

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Ah, I see, thanks a lot :) Yeah, by your and Bmos's answer I should really add the minimum stuff :)

ok, Looking for 2 answers. lol. if anyone has time. I am posting here as I am thinking this is where to start. the 2nd question might need to go to a Bmos extension but not sure.

1) is there a way to apply to a target the loss of ONLY their Dex bonus to AC? I am trying to set up Feint and Flatfooted does Dex and Dodge... I found the nodex but that's not it I believe. basically on a successful Bluff check, I want to create an action button that will remove any beneficial AC bonus due to Dex for 1 attack.

2) Is there a way to have an effect on a character that is only in effect during that characters action only. 2 weapon fighting attack negative does not effect an attack of opportunity the character uses, so I would like the -2 attack penalty (or whatever it may be) only applied during that players attack action off when not their "turn" on the combat tracker.

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Originally Posted by Morenu

Is there a way to have an effect on a character that is only in effect during that characters action only. 2 weapon fighting attack negative does not effect an attack of opportunity the character uses, so I would like the -2 attack penalty (or whatever it may be) only applied during that players attack action off when not their "turn" on the combat tracker.

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FG doesn't track the PF action economy. There is an expiration feature for effects that expires it after a single action, but this term "action" is not necessarily equivalent to PF's idea of an action.

Ok so that will need to be a “light switch” effect. For me i would do ATK:-2 as always on for a mainly 2 weapon fighter. Then have a REMOVE:ATK:-2 for things like AoO or other spots.

Thx. There are so many options for when the effect turns on off removes… I was confused

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ok, Looking for 2 answers. lol. if anyone has time. I am posting here as I am thinking this is where to start. the 2nd question might need to go to a Bmos extension but not sure.

1) is there a way to apply to a target the loss of ONLY their Dex bonus to AC? I am trying to set up Feint and Flatfooted does Dex and Dodge... I found the nodex but that's not it I believe. basically on a successful Bluff check, I want to create an action button that will remove any beneficial AC bonus due to Dex for 1 attack.

2) Is there a way to have an effect on a character that is only in effect during that characters action only. 2 weapon fighting attack negative does not effect an attack of opportunity the character uses, so I would like the -2 attack penalty (or whatever it may be) only applied during that players attack action off when not their "turn" on the combat tracker.

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Oh, wow, I didn't about this in 2) about 2 Weapon fighting :D But I personally would keep the bonus for attacks, as a homebrew adjustment. One could that in the code I think, there is already a conditional for AoO (applying a bonus just for AoO), I could code one for the opposite version basically

About 1): Oki, just Dex is not possible, but is also possible to add in the extension if needed :) (Though also here one could question the logic why Dex is negated but not dodge :) )

@all: Next Tuesday is a bigger FGU patch again, my extensions probably need an update, but I am drowning in work right now. On 4 September I have an important talk to give about my newest research and so I am finishing as much as possible of my research. Until then I am not able to look at FG and the extensions :) Thus, after the next update my extensions may break for a while :)

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Oh, wow, I didn't about this in 2) about 2 Weapon fighting :D But I personally would keep the bonus for attacks, as a homebrew adjustment. One could that in the code I think, there is already a conditional for AoO (applying a bonus just for AoO), I could code one for the opposite version basically

About 1): Oki, just Dex is not possible, but is also possible to add in the extension if needed :) (Though also here one could question the logic why Dex is negated but not dodge :) )

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I would agree that both these PF rules are not what I would use at my table.

ATK negative from start of turn 1 until start of turn 2 makes sense and is cleaner.

Using Flatfooted (a set rule that is used all over PF) over a unique rule that adds little to nothing and must be calculated on every new target seems way better as it is otherwise work intensive for no real benefit. I would allow 1 feint attempt per turn and use FF or I would say use feint on any attack, but IF you fail the attempt, you can no longer attempt for rest of round and your attacks are all -1 or 2 for the remaining attacks this round. Feint is already a PitA as the DC must be manually calculated per target by the DM and the player can't roll Skill checks directly from the Actions tab.

Unfortunately, since I am making a mod, I have to stick to the RAW rules. I can deal with the 2 weapon fighting, the player just turns it on/off as needed, just like TTrpg. Unfortunately, the Feint issue means the DM must look up the target's DEX bonus and then tell the player and the player then adjusts his attack, what a PitA. My goal is to never bug the DM for this type of thing. FGU should be able to return that info automatically and also be able to use the info in its computations IMO.

SO, if you choose to tackle either of these, a way to effect target ability data would be great. or a way of essentially doing Flatfooted that only drops DEX would be great.

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I would agree that both these PF rules are not what I would use at my table.

ATK negative from start of turn 1 until start of turn 2 makes sense and is cleaner.

Using Flatfooted (a set rule that is used all over PF) over a unique rule that adds little to nothing and must be calculated on every new target seems way better as it is otherwise work intensive for no real benefit. I would allow 1 feint attempt per turn and use FF or I would say use feint on any attack, but IF you fail the attempt, you can no longer attempt for rest of round and your attacks are all -1 or 2 for the remaining attacks this round. Feint is already a PitA as the DC must be manually calculated per target by the DM and the player can't roll Skill checks directly from the Actions tab.

Unfortunately, since I am making a mod, I have to stick to the RAW rules. I can deal with the 2 weapon fighting, the player just turns it on/off as needed, just like TTrpg. Unfortunately, the Feint issue means the DM must look up the target's DEX bonus and then tell the player and the player then adjusts his attack, what a PitA. My goal is to never bug the DM for this type of thing. FGU should be able to return that info automatically and also be able to use the info in its computations IMO.

SO, if you choose to tackle either of these, a way to effect target ability data would be great. or a way of essentially doing Flatfooted that only drops DEX would be great.

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I see, I will think about it once my I got more time in a bit over one week :) (I think I will take some days off from work, then I will update my extensions and so on)

wish you well for your upcoming stuff.

Does anyone know if either CLC or SR can be used to handle Spell Penetration feat (+2CLC towards overcoming SR only) right now I have it as a turn on effect of CLC:2 on next roll. and that works great, but my DM does not give out info on if a critter has SR. so essentially the player would have to manually add the CLC:2 effect before casting any spell and then turn it off. It can't be always on as it only gives to bonus for overcoming SR.

OR I guess I could have it always on and give an effect button that gives -2 CLC for 1 roll if a non spell resistance CLC roll is needed.

Just wanted to make sure I couldn't do an always on SR:-2 to any target I cast at.

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wish you well for your upcoming stuff.

Does anyone know if either CLC or SR can be used to handle Spell Penetration feat (+2CLC towards overcoming SR only) right now I have it as a turn on effect of CLC:2 on next roll. and that works great, but my DM does not give out info on if a critter has SR. so essentially the player would have to manually add the CLC:2 effect before casting any spell and then turn it off. It can't be always on as it only gives to bonus for overcoming SR.

OR I guess I could have it always on and give an effect button that gives -2 CLC for 1 roll if a non spell resistance CLC roll is needed.

Just wanted to make sure I couldn't do an always on SR:-2 to any target I cast at.

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Yeah, I think your second version works best; depends a bit on the players, but I think CLCs are mostly for spell resistance (not always, but most of the time), right? So, just turning it off or applying a negative effect for the other occasions sound best :)

Thanks. I am learning A ton doing this, and I haven't gotten to any critiques yet :)

One problem with carrying the extensions I do, is I am not always sure whos extension added certain functionality. I was wondering If it would be difficult to add a BAB option somewhere in this save area: Attachment 58686 several of the ____ Critical feats require a fort Save with a DC 10+your BAB. (staggering critical as an example) I can use Fixed but of course it then needs manually edited every level or so.

And is there an easy way to make a character immune to being flatfooted. looking to make Blind fighting work from the players side so the invisible creature (ATK:2; CA; TCONC) can attack a target normally and then attack a blind fighting opponent without their FF bonuses. The reroll the TCONC is easy to do manually.

But this...

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An invisible attacker gets no advantages related to hitting you in melee. That is, you don't lose your Dexterity bonus to Armor Class, and the attacker doesn't get the usual +2 bonus for being invisible. The invisible attacker's bonuses do still apply for ranged attacks, however.

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this part specifically is a little more tricky, can add this to counteract FF... AC:2;AC: [DEX]; but I can't return dodge AC bonus unless we add it manually so say a dodge of 1 -> AC:2 melee;AC:[DEX] melee;AC:1 melee and the last AC must be edited to = the players total dodge bonus. then turn that on during the invisible critters attack?

Greetings gents! I see the very two gentlemen to whom I wish to speak are already talking here today, and awaiting my arrival ;-)

I won't go through the entire background motivation (@Morenu has already seen it), but suffice to say that I am finally converting my decade-old Rise of the Runelords campaign to FGU and am beginning to bring on all the fabulous work (in the form of custom extensions and modules) that you all do.

To wit: I started with @Zarestia's "Feature: Advanced Charsheet" extension (no errors), and now am adding @Kelrugem's "Feature: Extended automation and overlays" (errors!). My complete extension list is currently:

Feature: Advanced Bestiary Templates
Feature: Advanced Charsheet
Feature: Extended automation and overlays
Theme: Pathfinder - Official

The log entry I see with "Feature: Extended automation and overlays" is:

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[8/30/2023 9:55:02 AM] MEASURE: LOAD - PART 1 - 3.9620749
[8/30/2023 9:55:03 AM] [ERROR] Script execution error: [string "Full OverlayPackage:..s/manager_combat2.lua"]:14: attempt to call field 'setDefaultSpaceReachFromActorSizeKey' (a nil value)
[8/30/2023 9:55:03 AM] MEASURE: MODULE LOAD - 0.0010363 - Animal Pogs
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(also, if I instead load the "Feature: Extended automation and alternative overlays" extension I see the following log entry instead:

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[8/30/2023 9:53:38 AM] MEASURE: LOAD - PART 1 - 4.4880997
[8/30/2023 9:53:40 AM] [ERROR] Script execution error: [string "..h alternative icons:..manager_combat2.lua"]:14: attempt to call field 'setDefaultSpaceReachFromActorSizeKey' (a nil value)
[8/30/2023 9:53:40 AM] MEASURE: MODULE LOAD - 0.002024 - Animal Pogs
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Thoughts?

Thanks!

- s.west

LOL nope nope nope... NOT my advanced character sheet! edit that before Zarestia sees that!

You came into FGU exactly at the wrong day if you are playing with extensions. SW just released a new version that we know will break several extensions. Give it a week for the modders to catch up. Of course if you figure out something exactly and can reproduce it then report it to the author, but otherwise I advise turning on extensions 1 at a time and reload to see if errors occur.

As you did above :)

I did not update if you want to see 40 or so extensions working harmoniously

(crossing posts)

p.s.

FYI, I failed to mention that I disabled all extensions, save "Feature: Extended automation and overlays", and saw the same results.

- s.west

@Morenu wrote:

> NOT my advanced character sheet! edit that before Zarestia sees that!

D'Oh! So sorry!! I was in such a hurry to get some of these questions posted that I just got ahead of myself, and wasn't paying proper attention.

Thanks for the correction.

- s.west

@swest: Did you update recently? Sorry, you may have missed my post last week: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...l=1#post695855
I have to update my extensions for incompatibilities with the newest patch from Tuesday :) But I have no time yet to do so :) It may take a week or two until I can, until then my extensions will be probably incompatible :) I am sorry, I am extremely busy right now (working non-stop, no weekends and not a lot of free time currently)

No worries, at all. I did not really avail myself of any current events before jumping into this.

I forget, is there any way to downgrade my FGU to a previous release? I'm not even sure I would want to try it, but I thought I'd ask. If not, I'll be happy to wait until everything is reconciled.

Thanks for the explanation.

Cheers,

- s.west