DCC RPG Ruleset

Can DCC get its own thread? I have a lot to talk about ;)

BTW my first question is: will there be ongoing support? I will gladly throw money at FG and GG for FG versions of their modules.

2nd of all: could that ongoing support possibly include the Lankhmar set? I have no idea if GG and/or FG would have rights to convert it? If not, I can go ahead and get started myself for my own game... If so, I can kick back and wait (my campaigns are cycling through a pretty intense scheduled queue of systems right now)...

A new thread would be good for documenting issues, feature request, etc.

Man, this looks so neat! Thanks a lot for this!

But, am I the only one afraid of accidentally hitting that "Roll" button under the attributes? I love it, but can't stop thinking that one day somebody will re-roll their attributes by accident (or not)

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Originally Posted by Dr0W

Man, this looks so neat! Thanks a lot for this!

But, am I the only one afraid of accidentally hitting that "Roll" button under the attributes? I love it, but can't stop thinking that one day somebody will re-roll their attributes by accident (or not)

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Someone else just emailed support about that same issue. They requested a confirmation before it rolled and replaced everything.

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Originally Posted by ddavison

Someone else just emailed support about that same issue. They requested a confirmation before it rolled and replaced everything.

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I was wondering about a little "lock" on the button that you could 'lock' and 'unlock' ?

I was the one who emailed support. :)

A lock/unlock approach could certainly work as well. But getting this right feels like more UI complexity. Should it be unlocked at first and automatically lock after the initial roll? Or does it manually need to be unlocked first? What if you forget to lock it again afterwards?

Ultimately, rolling stats feels like it should be a one-time thing. There certainly should be some way to reroll later, but only if you have high confidence that this is actually what the user intended. That could be accomplished via a confirmation dialog, a lock/unlock approach, or some other solution.

Thanks for the feedback. There are a few options here...

1. Add an ‘Edit’ button to the bottom right to “unlock” this option. The button to roll ability scores would only show in edit mode and would appear next to the Edit button, similar to other tabs on the char sheet.

2. Add a ‘Roll Ability Scores’ option to the radial menu when you right-click on the character sheet (maybe with a second click for confirmation). This might be over-looked if you don’t know it’s there, but no risk of accidental re-rolls.

3. Leave the button where it is but add a confirmation dialog box.

I would be interested to hear opinions. I listed these in order of my preference, but I am flexible. Removing it is also an option, but if you need to roll up a few zeroes for a funnel, the old method is tedious.

I don’t know about the plan for releasing other Goodman Games products. Maybe Doug can answer that? I assume we will see a steady stream of new content. Personally, I think the system-neutral “alphabet” books would be perfect with FG’s tables.

I am working hard to add features to the ruleset that incorporate more official content, so ongoing support of the ruleset is definitely happening. I might be a little slower to answer forum posts, but I am here.

I will start a new thread for the official ruleset.

Regarding a thread for the official ruleset... Which ‘Game Systems’ sub-forum makes more sense - Classic D&D (as an OSR system) or CoreRPG/Other?

It is based on the 3.0/3.5 SRD, but the feel is meant to be more older style, so classic D&D makes sense as well.

Thanks for exploring these options.

I'm not sure about the radial menu (2.) for the reason you mention. It seems hard to discover. (Admittedly, I haven't played much FG yet, so if this is a common solution, it might make sense here as well.)

Both 1. and 3. sound like fine solutions to me.

Would an Edit button gate any other changes as well? I'm guessing you wouldn't want to lock down manual attribute editing, as this often happens during the course of a DCC session (when a special attack causes STR damage, for example, or you use spellburn).

Which reminds me of another feature request: The ability to track both permanent and current attribute values would be great.

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Originally Posted by leozelig

Thanks for the feedback. There are a few options here...

1. Add an ‘Edit’ button to the bottom right to “unlock” this option. The button to roll ability scores would only show in edit mode and would appear next to the Edit button, similar to other tabs on the char sheet.

2. Add a ‘Roll Ability Scores’ option to the radial menu when you right-click on the character sheet (maybe with a second click for confirmation). This might be over-looked if you don’t know it’s there, but no risk of accidental re-rolls.

3. Leave the button where it is but add a confirmation dialog box.

I would be interested to hear opinions. I listed these in order of my preference, but I am flexible. Removing it is also an option, but if you need to roll up a few zeroes for a funnel, the old method is tedious.

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I will experiment with the Edit button. It would not lock anything other than ability rolls. Updates go out on Tuesday.

Spellburn and luck burn are on my list. The free module from the 7th printing (Yddgrrl’s Maze) needs to be added first, but that should be available by the end of the month.

I recommend tracking ability loss in the combat tracker for now. For example, the judge might create the effect ‘Spellburn; STR:-3; STA:-1’ with duration 0. I honestly prefer that to tracking on the character sheet from a coding perspective, but not everyone will agree.

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Originally Posted by leozelig

Regarding a thread for the official ruleset... Which ‘Game Systems’ sub-forum makes more sense - Classic D&D (as an OSR system) or CoreRPG/Other?

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I recommend you request a new sub forum specific to DCC.

Any plans to automate spell casting in the future? I can't even see how to make base spell check roll, i can see modifier for it but no dice to roll

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Originally Posted by hawkwind

Any plans to automate spell casting in the future? I can't even see how to make base spell check roll, i can see modifier for it but no dice to roll

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It is similar to the 5E ruleset. Drop a spell to the character sheet, right-click on the spell, and select ‘Add Action’ followed by ‘Add Cast’. By default, this will roll a d20 using your base spell check modifier, but you can click the magnifying glass icon to adjust the settings. I believe that some actions will parse automatically when the spell is added, which is something I plan to improve.

I have considered creating rollable spell tables as an alternative. The spell check result would display in the chat window, but you lose the ability to target NPCs, auto-roll NPCs saves, and apply effect modifiers from the combat tracker. Load times for the module might increase considerably as well - tables require some real estate on the back end.

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Originally Posted by leozelig

Thanks for the feedback. There are a few options here...

1. Add an ‘Edit’ button to the bottom right to “unlock” this option. The button to roll ability scores would only show in edit mode and would appear next to the Edit button, similar to other tabs on the char sheet.

2. Add a ‘Roll Ability Scores’ option to the radial menu when you right-click on the character sheet (maybe with a second click for confirmation). This might be over-looked if you don’t know it’s there, but no risk of accidental re-rolls.

3. Leave the button where it is but add a confirmation dialog box.

I would be interested to hear opinions. I listed these in order of my preference, but I am flexible. Removing it is also an option, but if you need to roll up a few zeroes for a funnel, the old method is tedious.

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Voting for #1 on this.

When Dwarves and Warriors attack is there a way to auto include their deed die? I was poking around yesterday and didn't seem to stumble onto it.

Can FG support the magic rolling functionality of something like The Crawler app? Might be getting some chocolate in the peanut butter but it would be pretty sweet to just click on the spell and have it do the rest of the work from there.

Best practice for adding spell burn bonuses? I'm assuming using the modifier window by the dice would be the easiest for the roll but not sure if there's a good way to track the ability point cost on the character's stats.

DCC thread could be anywhere and we'd find it :)

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Originally Posted by leozelig

It is similar to the 5E ruleset. Drop a spell to the character sheet, right-click on the spell, and select ‘Add Action’ followed by ‘Add Cast’. By default, this will roll a d20 using your base spell check modifier, but you can click the magnifying glass icon to adjust the settings. I believe that some actions will parse automatically when the spell is added, which is something I plan to improve.

I have considered creating rollable spell tables as an alternative. The spell check result would display in the chat window, but you lose the ability to target NPCs, auto-roll NPCs saves, and apply effect modifiers from the combat tracker. Load times for the module might increase considerably as well - tables require some real estate on the back end.

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I just tried it - works fine.

With the few spells I've tried, the effects (e.g. Dazed for Charm Person) and damage actions (e.g. for Chill Touch) were automatically added, but the Cast actions had to be manually added. I assume that's what you described you're planning to improve. It would be great if the Cast actions were automatically added as well.

I also noticed that there are a whole bunch of redundant Dmg actions. E.g. Chill Touch adds several 1d6 Dmg actions, several 2d6, etc. - see screenshot. I'm guessing it parses all of these out of the individual spell result tables, leading to this redundancy. Perhaps these could be deduped first.

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I recommend you request a new sub forum specific to DCC.

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Originally Posted by SoulCatcher78

When Dwarves and Warriors attack is there a way to auto include their deed die? I was poking around yesterday and didn't seem to stumble onto it.

Can FG support the magic rolling functionality of something like The Crawler app? Might be getting some chocolate in the peanut butter but it would be pretty sweet to just click on the spell and have it do the rest of the work from there.

Best practice for adding spell burn bonuses? I'm assuming using the modifier window by the dice would be the easiest for the roll but not sure if there's a good way to track the ability point cost on the character's stats.

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To include the deed bonus for the attack, click the star icon (in the weapon list or weapon detail). You need to click the ‘Deed’ button each round to set the attack/damage bonus. If you need to manually adjust it for any reason, you can edit the ‘Result’ field in the ‘Weapon Meta’ window accessed by clicking the magnifying glass to the far right of the ‘Weapons’ header.

First priority for spells is to set up the actions for each spell, including the cast action, so players don’t have to fuss with duplicates, etc. I haven’t used Crawlers Companion for a long time - do you mean roll a spell check and have the table result display (without manual lookup)? I will figure out a solution for that because it seems like something the ruleset needs to do, but I want to keep the roll linked to the character sheet rather than a separate rollable table.

Spellburn is tricky. I do think the character sheet needs a way to track temporary ability loss, including spellburn and luck, so that will be there at some point. Currently, the actual bonus should be added to the modifier box, and the ability loss added as an effect to the combat tracker (by the judge) - ‘Spellburn; AGI:-3’ for example.

The 'Roll Ability Scores' button is now safely hidden behind the edit button. I don't think there is any risk of accidental re-roll with this, and it looks better anyway. This will go out in the next update (today?). Also included - class drops (when gaining a level) will auto-update skills, with additional messaging for each updated field, and base speed will auto-update when you add an occupation.

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The 'Roll Ability Scores' button is now safely hidden behind the edit button. I don't think there is any risk of accidental re-roll with this, and it looks better anyway. This will go out in the next update (today?). Also included - class drops (when gaining a level) will auto-update skills, with additional messaging for each updated field, and base speed will auto-update when you add an occupation.

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Thanks, I just tried out the new reroll UI. It works fine (thanks!) - just one weird issue:

I have to click at the very bottom of the round "edit list" or "roll ability scores" button. Any clicks on the top half of the button don't register. At first, I didn't realize this and was wondering why it doesn't work.
(This is on OSX in case it matters.)

I will check the button issue.

FYI... The thread for the official DCC ruleset will be moving to the Classic D&D sub forum under Game Systems. Expect another adventure (Yddgrrl’s Maze) with the next update on Tuesday.

I believe the lucky roll subwindow was overlapping with the top half of the edit and roll buttons. I will fix this for the 4/30 update.

Sounds great on both fronts (new adventure + button fix). Thanks!
:)

The new thread is now up. Please post any comments etc. regarding the official DCC RPG ruleset here:

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...g-Game-Ruleset

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Originally Posted by TheSwartz

To answer my own question, I'm no expert, but this seems to work; so far so good!

open the campaign.xml file and change

<ruleset>DCCRPG</ruleset>

to

<ruleset>DCC RPG</ruleset>

Note the space.

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I tried changing the <ruleset>DCCRGP</ruleset> to <ruleset>DCC RPG</ruleset> in a module I created (the definition.xml) and that little modification allowed me to use the module in the Official DCC ruleset. Now to try my campaign and characters from my ongoing game...

I agree. I think each core ruleset should automatically get one.

Thank you for all your hard work.

Hey everyone, my group has been successfully using FGU/DCC ruleset for 16 sessions now with very little problems! Thank you, crawlers!

I have a question that I can only find answers in 5E for and that is:

How do I create custom effects for my campaign that I can apply to characters?

Specifically, I would like to be able to apply a Berserk Rage effect to a character. It would last 3d6 rounds, +4 to STR, +4 to STA, -4 INT, -2 AC. Then another effect for exhaustion that lasts 2d4 turns that applies (from baseline) -4 STR, -4 STA, -2 AC, 50% Movement, -2 DEX.

I can only find syntax for 5e which has nifty little dialogue boxes.

I don't care if it's a custom created global effect (in upper right of interface) or if it's created on the character's sheet as a power as that's what it is from a magic item.

What's the process and syntax for creating that type of thing?

Any help is appreciated!