[extension] Spell Tokens Extension

v5.3 is now live, I've moved over to a different non-documented call to add the tokens a slight different way ( The ruleset uses this version now.. ) so maybe this way will help keep them placed in the correct location. ( I've also added snapToGrid on the drop location, so initial drop point will be centre or on a line if snap is enabled etc.. )

done some tidy up to reflect the above change, and fixed an issue for some 'nil' warning console output, and some host/client sync issues with token cached data.

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Originally Posted by espanRebel

Hello I just purchased this extension. After updating I do see the Spell Token window. It may be my lack of computer skills but that is as far a I can go. How do I load the tokens onto the combat tracker for foes/enemies.

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The extension comes with no tokens, you need to provide your own or grab a free or paid pack...

If you have your own tokens you need to 'add' the settup on the 'spell tokens configuration' window.. Basically with the '+' buttons at the bottom or right click radial to add a new line... set the name to a spell, configure its size per 5 feet for the token you assign at the end, assign an optional 'icon' and a token graphic ( from assets ). If the name matches up (with some extras to cover external mod naming conventions. ) then it should show up on the CT and player character spell lists ( you might need to re-parse the spell on a character sheet or delete-add them back in. )

If you have Gareth Jensen pack, which is very popular for 5E ruleset... At the top of this thread is a 'spelltokens.xml' file designed for this pack. On the 'spell tokens configuration' screen you should see an blue up-arrow at the bottom of the window that should 'import spell xml file', which you can select with your windows file system to the location you downloaded the 'spelltokens.xml' file.

At this point you should be seeing spell token graphics in the 'spell token configuration' window. ( Many examples are shown in this thread. )

If you have some spell tokens configured, you should be able to use the matching spell on a character ( or if used on the npc in the combat tracker. ), and it should show up the 'icon' to drag onto a map at the right end of the spell line on the character sheet. ( If icons are not configured, the full spell token graphic will be used on the character sheet. )

After the drag onto a map, the system will swap the icon to the real spell token graphic an resize it for the map.

If you still have issues, please post some images of the stages you are at. ( eg, an image of the spell tokens configuration window and a character or combat tracker image ) So we can see what state you are at.

We have seen people with just slight spelling mis-match and other issues.. The first config is the hardest to play with, but I've tried to make it as simple as possible by providing a couple of pre-configured 'xml' files at the top of the thread.

If you get working and you want to add some comments as to what was your issue, maybe I can word the forge page a little to help. ( Its only got a basic forge page, and if you look at the thread I've been doing updates nearly each day to improve and fix and re-stabilise the extension. )

Hope this helps you get going,
-pete

Ok I can get it to work in your FGU campaign. When I try one of my own, it does work. I did unload all but your extension. Is there something I missed?

I did not include any images cause I thought I could explain it decent enough😁

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Originally Posted by espanRebel

Ok I can get it to work in your FGU campaign. When I try one of my own, it does work. I did unload all but your extension. Is there something I missed?

I did not include any images cause I thought I could explain it decent enough��

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Well maybe you should have included some images, because both cases you talk about you say it works. ( I assume your 'does' should have been a 'doesn't' in your own campaign. )

When you included it in your own campaign, do you get the 'spell tokens' button on the host side and does it show configurations for spell tokens ?

On your own campaign, the biggest reason it does not work is normally characters with spell already on the sheet before adding spell tokens extension. To get these working, you can right-click on a spell and use the 'radial button' option to re-parse the character sheet spell. ( If you press shift when you do this it will keep any custom changes to the spell you have made, or keep the custom setting from grim press/rob2e style spells. )

For the items on the combat tracker these just clear the npc's and re-add... or should start when this happens as part of game play. ( As you do not tend to keep npc for ever on the CT )

Hope this gets you going, welcome if you have any usability feedback please let me know.
-pete

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Originally Posted by bratch9

v5.3 is now live, I've moved over to a different non-documented call to add the tokens a slight different way ( The ruleset uses this version now.. ) so maybe this way will help keep them placed in the correct location. ( I've also added snapToGrid on the drop location, so initial drop point will be centre or on a line if snap is enabled etc.. )

done some tidy up to reflect the above change, and fixed an issue for some 'nil' warning console output, and some host/client sync issues with token cached data.

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So the changes have it getting closer to the X but still shifting on drop.

Does it make a difference for your shifting experience whether the map is in windowed, desktop or maximized mode when you try to drop a token? Does it make a difference whether the FGU window itself is in maximized or not?

Furthermore, are you sure that your token image is centered correctly? Maybe there are empty parts in the upper left corner? Please click on the token to let us see the token select circle around it.

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Originally Posted by nephranka

So the changes have it getting closer to the X but still shifting on drop.

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Still can not replicate this, I've even added the theme to to see if it was an interaction with that. Tried window max and then desktop, and the same sort of zoom offsets you have configured. The spell token looks like the standard gareth rope spell token so if should not have any odd offsets... unless you have hand edited the graphic. ( Are you upto date with the gareth spell tokens pack, just incase he has edited the centre point ? )

As weissrolf says, can you 'select' it so we can see the green highlight around it, which I assume will be just around it and correct as expected and not some 4 square radius circle that shows a sprite offset.

Could you attach a zip of the campaign folder ( or DM me a link to it ), and I'll load it up and see if it gives me the same issue.

have you tried a totally new clean with just spell tokens extension campaign, does it show the same if you do just the basic minimum. ie no modules loaded, just import the spelltokens.xml setup, and open the map and drag on from the spell tokens configuration window...

Is it any different if you use a character sheet as the source for the rope spell ? and it is just an issue on the spell tokens configuration window ?

As I say I can not replicate this, and I've tried from character/config and window/max/desktop and they all drop in the place I expect. ( with/without grid snap enabled. )

The image is from the host side, did you drag on from the host, or did a player drag it on from a client and it was out of sync on the host side ?

Thanks, Pete

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Originally Posted by Weissrolf

Does it make a difference for your shifting experience whether the map is in windowed, desktop or maximized mode when you try to drop a token? Does it make a difference whether the FGU window itself is in maximized or not?

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No diferences.

Here you go. Token selected.

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Originally Posted by bratch9

Still can not replicate this, I've even added the theme to to see if it was an interaction with that. Tried window max and then desktop, and the same sort of zoom offsets you have configured. The spell token looks like the standard gareth rope spell token so if should not have any odd offsets... unless you have hand edited the graphic. ( Are you upto date with the gareth spell tokens pack, just incase he has edited the centre point ? )

As weissrolf says, can you 'select' it so we can see the green highlight around it, which I assume will be just around it and correct as expected and not some 4 square radius circle that shows a sprite offset.

Could you attach a zip of the campaign folder ( or DM me a link to it ), and I'll load it up and see if it gives me the same issue.

have you tried a totally new clean with just spell tokens extension campaign, does it show the same if you do just the basic minimum. ie no modules loaded, just import the spelltokens.xml setup, and open the map and drag on from the spell tokens configuration window...

Is it any different if you use a character sheet as the source for the rope spell ? and it is just an issue on the spell tokens configuration window ?

As I say I can not replicate this, and I've tried from character/config and window/max/desktop and they all drop in the place I expect. ( with/without grid snap enabled. )

The image is from the host side, did you drag on from the host, or did a player drag it on from a client and it was out of sync on the host side ?

Thanks, Pete

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No edits. This is a clean build. No difference if used from a character sheet or assets window. This has been all on the host side. Campaign attached.

Token version 2.1 and reimported the xml file. Same issue. Tested on windows and linux.

edit: just built a clean campaign and I have the same effect.

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Originally Posted by nephranka

Token version 2.1 and reimported the xml file. Same issue. Tested on windows and linux.

edit: just built a clean campaign and I have the same effect.

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In the 'test' branch, I've uploaded v5.3.1 which when you drag a token on to the map, if you hold down 'shift' before the release it should give you some debug like the attached grid.png.

You can see the tests I did, with the initial drop been at the top left (0,0) part of the map. The (-6,4) was the drop point and the gridsnap result was (0,0) and then the token was placed at (0,0), then a test 5 squares to the right. On the 50x50 grid of the map this should give the (250,0) snap position and then I did a test at 250,250.

In each case the cursor drop location is not quite at the point the spell token would snap to, but its in the correct location.

Its not like your example, that looks like the snap is >50+ pixels off from your 'x' marks the drop spot. ( Those images are a long way off just 'gridsnap' adjustment. )

I've had a quick go with your zip files, 'test3.zip' does not have a db.xml file. Did you zip this up while you had FG still open and it had not done the first save of the db file ?

But I did not get any offset like you on the 'testenviro.zip'.

If you can do the same sort of 'placement' tests with 'shift' held during the drop on a map, you should be able to see if your cursor drop and grid locations come out with >50+ offsets to the drop.

Hope this helps us find out what is going off with this offset issue. Its an odd one.

Thanks, Pete

I might have zipped test3 up while I was running, so that would explain the missing db file. Here is it rezipped.

Here is the test:

s'onDrop' | #285 | #295 | #290 | #300
tokeninstance = { { container = image.id-00008.image@FG Battle Maps, id = 1, x,y = (290.0, 300.0)} }


I noticed the further I move to the right the bigger the spacing on drop.

1st drop:
s'onDrop' | #200 | #271 | #198 | #276
tokeninstance = { { container = image.id-00008.image@FG Battle Maps, id = 7, x,y = (198.0, 276.0)} }

2nd drop more to the right on the map:
s'onDrop' | #1028 | #371 | #1023 | #376
tokeninstance = { { container = image.id-00008.image@FG Battle Maps, id = 10, x,y = (1023.0, 376.0)} }

I do notice that if I take an asset and drop it directly on the map it drops where I click (the X). This shifting seems to be happening when I take the asset from the spell token configurations windows and drop them on the map.

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Originally Posted by nephranka

Here is the test:

s'onDrop' | #285 | #295 | #290 | #300
tokeninstance = { { container = image.id-00008.image@FG Battle Maps, id = 1, x,y = (290.0, 300.0)} }


I noticed the further I move to the right the bigger the spacing on drop.

1st drop:
s'onDrop' | #200 | #271 | #198 | #276
tokeninstance = { { container = image.id-00008.image@FG Battle Maps, id = 7, x,y = (198.0, 276.0)} }

2nd drop more to the right on the map:
s'onDrop' | #1028 | #371 | #1023 | #376
tokeninstance = { { container = image.id-00008.image@FG Battle Maps, id = 10, x,y = (1023.0, 376.0)} }

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those numbers look ok to me, its not as if you dropped at #1028 and it placed it at #1200 on the 'x' type thing.

I'm just not sure if I 'show' they are in reasonable locations, when they turn up on the map at not the expected position just what I can do to fix that. Since most people do not get this it must be something odd with your configuration.

Do you dual boot to linux/windows on this machine, or are they different machines ? ( As you said you have the same issue on windows/linux if I recall. )

I only run in windows, it could be a dual boot type issues. But if the 'normal' asset drag ends up in the correct location, I just dont know.

Let me think about it, and have a play with your zipped campaign files.. See if I can spot anything with a manual look at the xml files they hold.

Thanks, Pete

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Originally Posted by bratch9

those numbers look ok to me, its not as if you dropped at #1028 and it placed it at #1200 on the 'x' type thing.

I'm just not sure if I 'show' they are in reasonable locations, when they turn up on the map at not the expected position just what I can do to fix that. Since most people do not get this it must be something odd with your configuration.

Do you dual boot to linux/windows on this machine, or are they different machines ? ( As you said you have the same issue on windows/linux if I recall. )

I only run in windows, it could be a dual boot type issues. But if the 'normal' asset drag ends up in the correct location, I just dont know.

Let me think about it, and have a play with your zipped campaign files.. See if I can spot anything with a manual look at the xml files they hold.

Thanks, Pete

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I do dual boot but they have their own source files. Additionally, since it is behaving as you expect for token placement for all other interactions that rules out FG code is making a mistake.

Also, this did not always do this. So I went back to v3.9.8 and tested it. It did do it there as well. So now I am starting to fall into the camp that something has changed with FG core (recent update) and not with this ext. Or at the very least, something you are doing in the placement of the token now has a unexpected result from a change made by FG. Since I can move it around on the map as normal, this is isolated to the initial drop on the map. It happens on host and client.


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The strangeness of the more right I drop a token the more shifting happens...implies that it thinks my cursor is where it does drop the token and the difference in the position is changing based on where I have moved on the map.

The spell effect token mod from dms guild is setup to only allow 5e - you have to go into the mod and add the ruleset you need - this was an issue for me

Another test:

I dropped a token starting in the upper left corner. It work! Then I dropped one on the right of the 1st one and it shifted a little. Then I dropped another one next to the 2nd and the shift was greater. The last one was dropped next to the 3rd. The 4th had even more shifting. Same thing happens in the vertical.

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Originally Posted by Ckorik

The spell effect token mod from dms guild is setup to only allow 5e - you have to go into the mod and add the ruleset you need - this was an issue for me

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Thanks but I am 5e.

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Originally Posted by Ckorik

The spell effect token mod from dms guild is setup to only allow 5e - you have to go into the mod and add the ruleset you need - this was an issue for me

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both the forge and dmsguild version now have the extra rulesets supported by default. ( I changed this once dmsguild removed spell tokens from sale, so I was allowed to have it support multiple rulesets. Which was not the case before because WotC only wanted 5e to be supported. )

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Originally Posted by nephranka

Another test:

I dropped a token starting in the upper left corner. It work! Then I dropped one on the right of the 1st one and it shifted a little. Then I dropped another one next to the 2nd and the shift was greater. The last one was dropped next to the 3rd. The 4th had even more shifting. Same thing happens in the vertical.

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This is very odd, I'll try to replicate with multiple tokens in different locations as you have done.

Got the tokens to load onto the combat tracker, yea. My next question, do your tokens target tokens and what do you set pixels to?

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Originally Posted by bratch9

both the forge and dmsguild version now have the extra rulesets supported by default. ( I changed this once dmsguild removed spell tokens from sale, so I was allowed to have it support multiple rulesets. Which was not the case before because WotC only wanted 5e to be supported. )

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To be clear - it wasn't your mod that was the issue - the actual spell tokens - that was the issue - I bought the 5e spell tokens like two years ago - but with your mod and wanting to use this in pfrpg and pf2 for the players (you rock btw) - I went and downloaded the newest spell token files today - there is a mod within that download to put the tokens into unity - the problem is that mod is 5e only - Unity doesn't let you load tokens for a non-valid rule set it just loads anything compatible at startup.

I had to modify *that mod* to work - mostly because your xml assumes the tokens are in the default location - which they are not unless you load the mod.

Hopefully that makes sense.

The file specifically I had to alter was 769337-SPELL_TOKENS_2.1.mod

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Originally Posted by Ckorik

To be clear - it wasn't your mod that was the issue - the actual spell tokens - that was the issue - I bought the 5e spell tokens like two years ago - but with your mod and wanting to use this in pfrpg and pf2 for the players (you rock btw) - I went and downloaded the newest spell token files today - there is a mod within that download to put the tokens into unity - the problem is that mod is 5e only - Unity doesn't let you load tokens for a non-valid rule set it just loads anything compatible at startup.

I had to modify *that mod* to work - mostly because your xml assumes the tokens are in the default location - which they are not unless you load the mod.

Hopefully that makes sense.

The file specifically I had to alter was 769337-SPELL_TOKENS_2.1.mod

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Yep, I normally just use 7zip to open the 2.1.mod file. basically right click the mod with 7zip and 'open archive' then right click and select 'edit' on the 'definition.xml', when notepad opens with the file, change '<ruleset>Any</ruleset>', close notepad and 7zip will the re-write the 2.1.mod file... load in any ruleset, and link using the spelltokens.xml in the import on the config file.

Just leaving this, for others if they do not know how to change this.

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Originally Posted by espanRebel

Got the tokens to load onto the combat tracker, yea. My next question, do your tokens target tokens and what do you set pixels to?

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On the spell tokens configuration window, the 'pixel per 5 Unity', for 5e will be considered as the number of pixel you have used in the spell token graphic assigned per 5ft on the map.

So if you have a 10ft radius effect, and you have a 200x200 pixel graphic file assigned as the spell token. The 10ft radius has a 20ft diameter across the spell token, this is 4x 5ft unit squares on the map. So you set 200/4=50 'pixels per 5 unit'

Does that make sense ?

Normally if you download a pack of tokens it will tell you the number of pixels used per square, or have the effect radius in the filename or you just have to look up the spell effect to see what its size is, then maybe have a look at the pixel resolution of the spell token to work out just how many pixels should be used to cover one 5ftx5ft square in 5e. ( Or other ruleset. )

NOTE. for 4e you still set this us as per 5e ruleset of 'pixels per 5ft', and the system detects you are on 4e and corrects for the fact that ruleset uses '1 unit' distance per square.

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Originally Posted by espanRebel

Got the tokens to load onto the combat tracker, yea. My next question, do your tokens target tokens and what do you set pixels to?

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At the moment, the spell tokens extension does not target. My plan is to allow 'shift or ctrl' (not decided yet) to be pressed while the drag is going on, and then this button press will assign tokens under the spell to the target of the owner (n)pc. ( if its know. )

hi guys! i really need some help here! I bougth the extension months ago, but now i'm realy trying to use it. I have made the configuration for the spells, put the spells on the character sheet, but when i try to put the token on the map, nothing happen :(

Anyone knows the reason to this?

ps. i have the version on the DMsGuild, but I got the new version on the Forge. Attachment 48931

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Originally Posted by bratch9

This is very odd, I'll try to replicate with multiple tokens in different locations as you have done.

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So tonight all my players had the same effect. Shift on placement. The use a mix of Linux and windows machines so this is not a dual boot or Linux only issue.

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Originally Posted by hrscarvalho

hi guys! i really need some help here! I bougth the extension months ago, but now i'm realy trying to use it. I have made the configuration for the spells, put the spells on the character sheet, but when i try to put the token on the map, nothing happen :(

Anyone knows the reason to this?

ps. i have the version on the DMsGuild, but I got the new version on the Forge. Attachment 48931

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You could try right-clicking the spell, then holding Shift while you click "reparse" in the lower right. That fixed this issue for me from the update last week.

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Originally Posted by hrscarvalho

hi guys! i really need some help here! I bougth the extension months ago, but now i'm realy trying to use it. I have made the configuration for the spells, put the spells on the character sheet, but when i try to put the token on the map, nothing happen :(

Anyone knows the reason to this?

ps. i have the version on the DMsGuild, but I got the new version on the Forge. Attachment 48931

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As 'anathemort' suggests try doing the reparse with shift held. ( Or test via deleting and re-add a spell ) The data 'held' on the character sheet is very different between the DMSGuild and the forge version. ( The forge version data has changes a couple of times over the last week or so, causing extra re-parse requirement of the spells. )

Also at the moment 'aura' type spells do now function on the forge version, they will be back, but due to a rewrite of how spell tokens are processed with 'hit box area/shapes' I had to focus on getting this back up and working and stable. So some features were not implemented in the change.

As you can see on the current thread, some 'placement' offsets are still happening with 'nephranka' and his game(s), which has not been tracked down yet.

Hope this helps getting things working for you.

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Originally Posted by nephranka

So tonight all my players had the same effect. Shift on placement. The use a mix of Linux and windows machines so this is not a dual boot or Linux only issue.

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I'm guessing you are the host of this game ?

Spell tokens can not be added by non-host users, so if your machine has an issues every game you host will show the same issue for all users.

When a player drags out a spell token off the character sheet, it sends a message to the host, and the host adds the spell token. So client machines have zero influence on initial placement. If you have an issue on local games, all games you host will have the same issues for you and all players.

We do need to try and figure out why your machine has this issue.

Are you ok with running a couple more test builds with some extra debug outputs and providing the output into the thread ?

Thanks, Pete

I see now. Yes, I would more than happy to run and post some tests.

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Originally Posted by nephranka

I see now. Yes, I would more than happy to run and post some tests.

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I have managed to replicate and debug this to a level.. It can get a random 1.5 scale factor, which I just dont know how to get or what its related to, but it seems consistent. I need to do more checks.

It was doing this issue on my dev machine, which I'm back working on now, was away for some days last week using a spare machine. ( So maybe the spare machine was not fully updates, not sure when the 4.1.5 release was made, but I'm sure I had 4.1.5 on my dev machine before I left and it was not showing the issue. ) And I could not replicate it on the spare machine at the time late last week.

Anyway its got a random 1.5 factor scale now which seems to be working, but the 4.1.5 has also broken the non-hightlight drag of the spell tokens, so I'm doing some tests on that now.

-pete

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Originally Posted by nephranka

I see now. Yes, I would more than happy to run and post some tests.

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v5.4 is now released, if you would like to give that a go. It on the 'live' branch, I've removed the test one off the 'test' branch.

This should resolve the placement offset, and tidy up a database issues that was been reported on a '\reload'

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Originally Posted by bratch9

v5.4 is now released, if you would like to give that a go. It on the 'live' branch, I've removed the test one off the 'test' branch.

This should resolve the placement offset, and tidy up a database issues that was been reported on a '\reload'

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Tried v5.4 same issues nothing changed.

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Originally Posted by nephranka

Tried v5.4 same issues nothing changed.

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Not sure how that is the case, is it better or worse now... As I've scaled the drop position by a factor... so in no way should it be the same ? ( it might not be correct, but is it different ?)

v5.5 added basic aura mode back, if you drop a spell token onto a non spell token they get linked together when you move the non spell token.

( You can drag the spell token away, but if you move the linked non spell token it will try and jump the linked spell token back to the position of the non spell token. )

v5.6 now does aura rotate and scale of the linked spell token when you scale/rotate the non spell token.