Thread: When the walled garden backfires
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September 26th, 2018, 23:34 #21
Wow, that video went where I didn't expect. I was not however surprised when he said they contacted FantasyGrounds for a project and they supported them.
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September 26th, 2018, 23:42 #22
I can see a point from Nolan's viewpoint. There doesn't really need to be more white guys promoting TTRPG's.
And a moderation change.
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September 27th, 2018, 02:13 #23
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I mean I immediately thought about like, what if this happened with FG? I have like $500 invested in FG product which might not be a lot to some people but it's a hell of a lot for me. I'm not that active on the forums and stuff but I definitely get a different vibe but I cannot imagine how I would feel if I were like $500 into Roll20 and this **** went down. How can they be so careless? This hobby is really important to people. Like pretty regularly D&D is the best thing about my week. And to treat customers like that, and risk the platform imploding because of it is just incredibly irresponsible. And to do it over practically nothing, that's just reckless. I hope they manage to sort their **** out and become a better company after this.
I've never been more thankful for how good the FG community is, and how good the mods and admins are. Helpful, chill, not elitist. The software is great too. I've always heavily preferred it to Roll20.
I was really nervous about investing in a VTT and spending money on stuff that could only be used there. But FG keeps proving it was the right choice so good on y'all.
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September 27th, 2018, 03:13 #24
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September 27th, 2018, 04:21 #25
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September 27th, 2018, 04:56 #26
All I know is we have seen quite a bit of traffic to the college today. It seems people are looking for an alternative. We have been welcoming people all day. I'm not really concerned with the details of what happened but I am certainly glad to show people the benefits of Fantasy Grounds and help grow our community. So if you are one of the people who discovered us through this "event". Please feel free to ask for help in all our different mediums and I think you will find a welcoming community that wants you to succeed.
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September 27th, 2018, 05:51 #27
Not only that, but I recon that there are enough Community Devs around that we could possibly keep FG going *depending upon copyright issues, etc) - I mean, I not only code because I game I code because I like coding - and I'm pretty sure there are others out there who feel the same way.
But I can't see it coming to that - I mean, from the conversations I've had with Doug and John (not to mention the odd argument) I can't see them letting things get to that point, or even starting down that path - of course, you never know what the gods of fate have planned - but still, I can't see it happening and being Doug or John's fault.Dulux-Oz
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September 27th, 2018, 06:05 #28
This was one of the core drivers for me to choose FG over Roll20 a few years back.
Another was the difference in the vibe I got from teh community. Specifically that criticism was not allowed on the Roll20 forums, but it was on the FG forums. Funny how that turned out huh?
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September 27th, 2018, 06:12 #29
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Would it? I mean the downloaded books would still open as the reference manuals they are, but without the servers to connect to, you would never b able to save your game progress because that requires a license, which requires checking with the FG servers to grant access to in the program. this is why i have called FG cripple-ware in the past, and why i do no rent software.
also without the FG servers to convert your table alias, then nobody would b able to connect to your table if for some reason you were able to still have the license level last used without having to be check every time FG runs.
without the FG server, FG would be nothing but a big book collection and as non-functional as the "free" version allows it to be. heck would anything from the vault actually open without FG being able to connect to check the license level of the user?
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September 27th, 2018, 06:16 #30
Not quite, I think. My understanding the license check only happens when a demo license tries to connect to an ultimate license.
also without the FG servers to convert your table alias, then nobody would b able to connect to your table if for some reason you were able to still have the license level last used without having to be check every time FG runs.
without the FG server, FG would be nothing but a big book collection and as non-functional as the "free" version allows it to be. heck would anything from the vault actually open without FG being able to connect to check the license level of the user?
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