Quote Originally Posted by A Social Yeti View Post
interesting to knwo that this DnD mechanic of higher level clerics are not processed by FGU, and GMs just have to manual process that still.

Is there any one convenient location of information provided by smiteworks, where someone could get informed upfront pre purchase, about what game system rules are and are not mechanically functional in FGU?

Just say'n, anyone that already knows 5e well will be finding out that "the hard way" what all they know the DnD logo means, and what FGU's use of that logo means does not mechanically 1:1 line up.

If you sell the 5e DnD rule books, but in FGU they do not actually do what all you can read the rules are...does that not seem like the kind of thing to be real crystal clear with customers upfront on?
You know, an honest compare list between what the source books say the rules are and what parts of that FGU does not do out of the box.


And that for all rule systems sold that will have discrepancies between the printed rules and the by default mechanically processed rules in FGU.

Does automatically
does not process mechanically, but GM can manually do on the fly in a session
does not do, and no manual functions to the effect are available
does not do, and mods might
doe not do, and no mod could


that's basiaclly all the options , why not spell it out for everyone upfront?


Summoners? Like all those printed spells that players use to summon creatures? nope never heard of em? that's not a mechanical function here. But hey the Gm can of course manually look up one in the NPCs for a player, and then manually drag and drop it onto combat, and then manually make it friendly to the party and then manually make it visble to the party, and then manually give control to the player.
See that took no planning time at all, right? You planed less bro. And all that dragging and dropping during the session, that's you playing bro. you played more.

Still as far as i can judge, FGU is the best option on the market for VTTs. I recommend it, but only with the caveats about what it does and does not do, as out of the box default functionality, that may or may not meet all RPers cost / expectations.
Other rulesets have even less automation. The DnD5e Ruleset is further along than most in development, support and popularity. There are too many ifs, ands, & buts, to cover all situations. The real frustration lies in not being able to see or understand how the actual ruleset in question is actually going to interface with the Virtual tabletop format, and that comes with time, trial, error, and some critical thinking. Automation, at the level in which the Dnd5e rule set provides, is NOT the FG standard, it is the exception to the rule or standard. Rob Twohy and Zacchaeus and even others have taken the time and over two years to actually think outside the box and refine how they use Fantasy Grounds larger potential, a not as it's requirement. WoTC gives the IP license out to Smiteworks, and other platforms to do what they can to adapt it to work with a given set of parameters and limitations to each ruleset.

So, nobody is being duped, or being mislead. VTT means just that, there is always going to be some form of manual intervention, and there are different ways to handle the same situations. It's almost like saying that WoTC or Smiteworks has not given you the time to learn the system or its nurances. The time put into it, and the level of understanding required to even know you are missing or breaking things is up to the end users. If a person NEVER knew that the automation was there, especially in the case of the more advanced situations, does that mean it's broken? How long have you been playing, how much time have new users put in? What ruleset are you using? These are all going to vary. Do you think people are going to read a mega list of exceptions or that level of detail when they won't even rad the Wiki guides or the given Manuals? Most people buy on impulse. Accessibility, how it looks, and like you were concerned with, the complexity. FGu is not for everyone. There are people that want or require instant satisfaction and that is not going to happen so much using FG.