Thread: Anchoring width problem
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January 8th, 2020, 22:06 #11
Exactly, so he shouldn't have then recommended it. He's not paying attention.
Increase the size of the frame.
I solved it, though:
Code:<anchored> <top anchor="bottom" /> <left anchor="center" offset="-29,0" /> <right anchor="center" offset="29,0" /> </anchored>
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January 8th, 2020, 22:13 #12
Yes, I read your comment, but inline anchoring doesn't work when the frame is smaller than the contents. You need to instead anchor the second control next to the first control, like I did in my above post, but you also have to specify the horizontal anchors there, but in the exact way that I did with offsets.
Thanks for all of your attempts at helping, though.
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January 8th, 2020, 23:15 #13
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In the example provided, there is no width attribute, so the warning won't appear. Also, the example I provided works fine. If you need more room, then use the offset attribute.
Here's the same example I provided with the extra offset attribute:
Code:<template name="charattribute_description"> <stringcontrol> <anchored position="below" offset="29,0" /> <font>sheetlabelmini</font> <center /> <nodrag /> <readonly /> </stringcontrol> </template>
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January 8th, 2020, 23:41 #14
Your previous example was just my first example with the width removed. I tried it both with and without the (ignored) width, and got the same result as before: It cuts off the text at the left margin. That's why I'm saying that you're not paying attention. The example that you've given me now seems like it's just going to push the position further to the right, so I can tell that that won't help, at just a glance.
My tone is just fine. Saying that you're not paying attention, isn't saying that you're not trying to help. It's just that you're not paying enough attention to understand the problem. Nobody here was. I understand that it can be hard to understand just part of a code, so I'm sure that you had good intentions and tried your best, though. Don't feel attacked. Sometimes help just doesn't work out.
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January 8th, 2020, 23:47 #15
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That offset tag (when used with the below position) will expand the left anchor to the left and the right anchor to the right.
For the tone, I'm just saying that the way you are phrasing things is a good way to rub people the wrong way. Telling people that they aren't paying attention when they are trying to help you is not a positive motivator. Just the fact that you are judging the most recent example and saying it's wrong without actually trying is another negative motivator.
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January 9th, 2020, 00:42 #16
Aha! So that's how that works. I've read a lot about anchoring and offsets, over and over again, but never have I read that it works in both directions like that.
For the tone, I'm just saying that the way you are phrasing things is a good way to rub people the wrong way. Telling people that they aren't paying attention when they are trying to help you is not a positive motivator.
Just the fact that you are judging the most recent example and saying it's wrong without actually trying is another negative motivator.
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January 9th, 2020, 01:10 #17
If you want to play that game you will likely end up with less and less people to talk to.
As has been said several times in several threads people here are helping or offering to you on their own time.
You can ignore the advice if you choose. You can chalk it up to one persons view if you want.
At least in the context of this thread - you are the one not paying attention - Moon Wizard did not recommend this anchoring method. You did. And he told you why it is ignoring width.
Doubling down is absolutely the right way to play on this. Good luck.
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January 9th, 2020, 01:40 #18
You say that as if I should care. I don't come here to get friends. I don't even like friends. Friends are gooey things that cling to you like they're gum on a sole, and all they invite is trust and eventually betrayal. I come here to work. I need people who pay attention to my problems, and can listen if I tell them to pay attention. If they can't do that, then we're both better off if they don't reply. If you're going to help out, then the least that I ask of you, is that you ask me if something is unclear to you.
I don't do the "social" bit, so social extortion won't work on me. I've given up trying to be emotionally liked two decades ago. Don't help me because I'm a nice guy. Help me because I'm trying to give something back in the end. ...or don't. It's your loss.
The way I see it, is that as long as we don't call eachother names, we can get along on a professional level.
As has been said several times in several threads people here are helping or offering to you on their own time.
At least in the context of this thread - you are the one not paying attention - Moon Wizard did not recommend this anchoring method. You did. And he told you why it is ignoring width.
Doubling down is absolutely the right way to play on this. Good luck.
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January 9th, 2020, 18:00 #19
I understand you dont want friends. I understand a little bit about how for some people social interactions can be challenging and undesirable. I grew up with a friend who was in the Asperbergers spectrum.
Let me suggest another way to look at or consider the input you have received, most of us here trying to help are not getting paid to help people. The only benefit we get from helping people are either help on other topics in the future (i.e. mutual help), or out of building a human relationship (aka friendship).
The one who might be argued is getting paid to provide support has more demands and needs on their time than they can do. I.e. they have more to do than they can do. They have to make a reasonable business decision, do I spend time on X or Y? Which one is going to help the product the most in the long term? Helping a single community developer is a high risk investment and in many cases is debatable if it's worth the time. When that developer is challenging to relate to, and has stated they may not be part of the community for long, it makes it even a higher risk use of resources/time.
So, how do you get what you want? You have to be willing to give that which those who can provide the help are wanting in return. Part of that is to appear to develop those human relationships (even though you do not like them). Part of that is to show... respect, sympathy or the appearance of empathy that those people are looking for.
I understand that you wont (perhaps cant?) Have the emotional attachment that is represented by the behavior people are suggesting you present. But their is value in engaging with those social expectations. Both for you and those you interact with.
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January 9th, 2020, 19:43 #20
I actually think that there's value in not engaging with social expectations. Let me put it in a similee: You have a 1850s era mechanical workshop with exposed cogwheels, for some alien reason being run by 1850s women in ball gowns. Then one day Lady Moon Wizard's gown gets swept into the machinery, gets stuck, and the machinery stops. I point this out, but she says that it's fine - that her gown isn't stuck at all, and that I'm just being silly. She's a proper lady, after all - she'd never do such a clumpsy thing. In fact it's all my fault that the machinery has stopped. It must be. ...and then when I "double down", her best friend Lady Damned comes to her defense, claiming that I should respect women, or I'll never get married.
Would I go along with this social farse, we'd never get the workshop running again. I could stand around pretending that everything's just fine with Lady Moon Wizard being stuck, and nothing would be solved.
When people tell me to pay attention, I just make a better effort to pay attention. Damned told me to pay attention, and so I actually did, and I still concluded that I was right. This isn't hard, and I don't take offence at tones. I just want to get work done. While I can still get work done, you can be social all you want, but once the work stops, we have a problem.
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