5th edition players guide

**phantomwhale** · January 23rd, 2014, 06:11

Slipping out of the Savage Worlds forum for a while... I find one of my groups keen for some C&C gaming.

Now, I am a total newb, so apologies for the potential dumbness of this question, but I've got a Kickstarter PDF copy of the 5th edition players guide. The ruleset is still based on the 4th edition, is that right ? Does that have any significant differences ?

In any case, I'm keen to jump in and give it a go, just wondered if I might hit any "gotchas" between the editions that people know about ?

Cheers,
Ben (-PW-)

**Moon Wizard** · January 23rd, 2014, 08:10

The books included with the ruleset were updated to 5th edition with v3.x. The rules automation I found applicable was also updated to match.

Regards,
JPG

**Trenloe** · January 23rd, 2014, 10:30

Originally Posted by Moon Wizard

The books included with the ruleset were updated to 5th edition with v3.x. The rules automation I found applicable was also updated to match.

Cool! Could the store details be updated to mention this please?

**hawkwind** · January 23rd, 2014, 10:52

are there many changes from 4th to 5th? I assumed it was just part of Troll lords never ending fights against typos plus the addition of color prints to the books?

**JohnD** · January 23rd, 2014, 15:58

Apparently TL said that if you have 4th you shouldn't worry too much about "needing" to buy the 5th. A refreshing change from the money grubbing of WOTC et al.

**Moon Wizard** · January 23rd, 2014, 18:34

Trenloe,
Pop a note over to support email. I'm traveling right now.

Hawkwind,
The only differences I can remember are the encumbrance system, and perhaps some minor changes on siege check output. It's been awhile since I worked on it.

JPG

**dr_venture** · January 23rd, 2014, 18:57

My recollection is similar to Moon's... when I was doing dev on the ruleset, we opened a discussion in the dev group regarding what had changed between 4th and 5th, and there was very little. Encumbrance was simplified from 4th to 5th... and there were a couple other small items, but not much.

BTW, I always suggest noobs check out the Crusader's Companion, free doc from Troll Lords: https://www.trolllord.com/downloads/...scompanion.pdf

Filled with all kinds of freebie goodness - monsters, character classes, etc.

**damned** · January 24th, 2014, 00:00

yeah - very few changes... encumbrance was a key one - and not to DrV's liking if i recall correctly?

**dr_venture** · January 24th, 2014, 01:14

Not exactly, no... but of all the things I love about C&C, the encumbrance rules in general are one of the few things I don't dig. Considering my love/hate relationship with most rulesets, I can easily live with that.

**hawkwind** · January 25th, 2014, 08:43

And who buffers with encumbrance so so many players have said over the years. One of my favourite things about fantasy grounds is auto calculating encumbrance.
I just had a look at the new updated rule set and I have got to say nice job!

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