Pathfinder Second Edition - Core Rules module (not PFRPG2 ruleset) info and feedback

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Originally Posted by Swifty0x0

I did as you suggested, but the armor Max Stat was always zero. Here's an export with the original armor the character was using (Splint). The Max Stat should be a 1.

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Thanks for providing the example. The issue is caused by the shield being equipped and overriding the equipped armor stats. Logged as RS2.078, thanks for reporting the issue. EDIT: Fixed in release 12.

The work around, until I provide a fix, is to manually change the Armor frame "Max Stat" field each time armor or shields are re-equipped.

Suggestion: Now that "level added" is a thing, it would be nice to be able to sort feats and class features by that instead of alphabetically. Generally I feel like that's a more useful ordering.

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Originally Posted by MaxAstro

Suggestion: Now that "level added" is a thing, it would be nice to be able to sort feats and class features by that instead of alphabetically. Generally I feel like that's a more useful ordering.

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Good idea.

Is it possible to put the dragon link icons to the condition rules on the effects bars and combat trackers for easy access, only way can find them is to open the reference manual contents and go to the appendix and scroll thru them. If not that at least break them out like skills and traits are in the library as simple link list. I usually just alttab to aonprd instead.

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Originally Posted by yarnevk

Is it possible to put the dragon link icons to the condition rules on the effects bars and combat trackers for easy access, only way can find them is to open the reference manual contents and go to the appendix and scroll thru them. If not that at least break them out like skills and traits are in the library as simple link list. I usually just alttab to aonprd instead.

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I have plans to provide more feedback on effects and conditions, but it won't be around for a while yet (it'll come with the re-work of the actions tab).

Just noticed that the Alchemist's "Research Field - Bomber" is missing the second paragraph of the description that is present in the general "Research Field" listing.

(The missing text is "When throwing an alchemical bomb with the splash trait, you can deal splash damage to only your primary target instead of the usual splash area.")

Moved to the Core Rules module issue reporting thread (from the base ruleset thread).

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Originally Posted by jmspencer

Just noticed that the Alchemist's "Research Field - Bomber" is missing the second paragraph of the description that is present in the general "Research Field" listing.

(The missing text is "When throwing an alchemical bomb with the splash trait, you can deal splash damage to only your primary target instead of the usual splash area.")

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Thanks for reporting. Logged as CR2.065.

I did a search and didn't find anything in the forums. In FG the language Jotun is spelled Jotan.

Greater Juggernaut feat missing for Barbarian or am I missing something?

Edit: now that I am looking seems Barbarian is missing entire level 13 feats.

When using the autotarget for spells, we noticed that the certain spells didn't adjust damage for the target's level of success. While I can't remember all the specifics, I know Chain Lightning in particular was one in which all affected targets took full damage (not half or doubled as would be on a success or crit failure). Fireball, on the other hand, was working normally.

Open the magnifying glass next to the spell details. And make sure that the option "half on success" is chosen.

I had the same issue with action symbols as L-Voss and I can confirm that changing initial language in Windows to English fix the problem

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Originally Posted by Milke

Open the magnifying glass next to the spell details. And make sure that the option "half on success" is chosen.

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Did some digging after this week's session. I fixed the save for chain lightning on that character's sheet, then I added spellcasting to a plain character sheet to see if the default value was updated (it was not).
In addition to Chain Lightning, it seems as if Disintegrate also needs the default value fixed.
Secondly, Sorcerer's Bloodline - Undead ability incorrectly lists Undeath's Blessing (a cleric focus spell) as their initial focus spell instead of the correct "Touch of Undeath."

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Originally Posted by Camellen

Secondly, Sorcerer's Bloodline - Undead ability incorrectly lists Undeath's Blessing (a cleric focus spell) as their initial focus spell instead of the correct "Touch of Undeath."

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Thanks for reporting. Logged as CR2.067.

Brutality not listed as a Barbarian 5th level class feature

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Originally Posted by Olliebird

Brutality not listed as a Barbarian 5th level class feature

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Thanks for reporting. Logged as CR2.068 and fixed in the next Core Rules release.

I don't know if this has been mentioned , I skimmed the thread. I was trying to run a game without the modules and just use parameters that were built in for PF2. trained bonus was off as well, i figured i'd make it easy and just get the module and it does, BUT the Trained is still wrong it should be +2 not +3. is there a way I can go in and fix that? or do i have to wait for an update on the module?

Thanks

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Originally Posted by Stixx925

I don't know if this has been mentioned , I skimmed the thread. I was trying to run a game without the modules and just use parameters that were built in for PF2. trained bonus was off as well, i figured i'd make it easy and just get the module and it does, BUT the Trained is still wrong it should be +2 not +3. is there a way I can go in and fix that? or do i have to wait for an update on the module?

Thanks

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Have you taken level into account? Because the Trained bonus is +2+your level.

I don't find any mention of this in my skimming of the forum, so I thought I would post here.

Kukri is listed as Subcategory: Uncommon Martial Melee. There is no listing that I can find in Pathfinder 2e for that. However, there is a weapon trait of Uncommon.

The Archives of Nethys lists the Kukri as a Martial weapon, and gives it the Uncommon trait.

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Originally Posted by will9k

Kukri is listed as Subcategory: Uncommon Martial Melee. There is no listing that I can find in Pathfinder 2e for that.

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Table 6-7: Melee Weapons in the Core Rules. Page 281 has a section "Uncommon Martial Weapons.

I am now confused.

I looked in the book, and yes your correct. Table 6-7 dose list Uncommon Martial Weapons.

However, the official online rules, Archives of Nethys, has this for Kukri
Kukri
Source Core Rulebook pg. 281
Price 6 sp; Damage 1d6 S; Bulk L
Hands 1
Category Martial
Group Knife; Traits Agile, Finesse, Trip, Uncommon

The blade of this foot-long knife curves inward and lacks a cross guard at the hilt.
Critical Specialization Effects
Source Core Rulebook pg. 283
Certain feats, class features, weapon runes, and other effects can grant you additional benefits when you make an attack with certain weapons and get a critical success. This is called a critical specialization effect. The exact effect depends on which weapon group your weapon belongs to, as listed below. You can always decide not to add the critical specialization effect of your weapon.

Knife: The target takes 1d6 persistent bleed damage. You gain an item bonus to this bleed damage equal to the weapon’s item bonus to attack rolls.



Also from the Archives of Nethys Base Weapons, (https://2e.aonprd.com/Weapons.aspx), lists Melee weapons category as Unarmed, Simple, Martial, and Advanced. Uncommon is listed as a weapon trait, not a category.

I wonder if this is some kind of error in one of the sources, as the printed book and the official online rules seem to disagree.

The Pathfinder Second Edition Core Rules replicate the Core Rules book. They don't replicate the Archives of Nethys.

I agree that the uncommon trait needs adding to weapons in the Uncommon categories.

Running on FGU... With the CRB loaded, when I drag Ancestry to a character sheet, the only Heritages that show up in the pop-up are from Lost Omens Character Guide.

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Originally Posted by FantasyGroundsNOOBnD

Running on FGU... With the CRB loaded, when I drag Ancestry to a character sheet, the only Heritages that show up in the pop-up are from Lost Omens Character Guide.

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Please re-run an update and see if that fixes it. There's been a few updates today.

If not, please open the Ancestries window and click the "Heritages" button and take a screenshot and post here. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Trenloe

Please re-run an update and see if that fixes it. There's been a few updates today.

If not, please open the Ancestries window and click the "Heritages" button and take a screenshot and post here. Thanks.

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Forced an update with no luck. Please see below:
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Originally Posted by FantasyGroundsNOOBnD

Forced an update with no luck. Please see below:
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Thanks for that. It looks like the Core Rules update didn't get pushed to FGU. It got pushed to FGC fine.

I'll check with SmiteWorks.

Thanks for reporting the issue.

same thing here on Classic, The core rules info isn't working, the lost omens is working fine though.

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Originally Posted by Alex Craft

same thing here on Classic, The core rules info isn't working, the lost omens is working fine though.

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Thanks for the heads up. I had the module left over in the modules directory. I've let SmiteWorks know that both Classic and Unity Core Rules haven't been updated. Thanks!

SmiteWorks have pushed the update to Classic and Unity. Please re-run an update to get the right version. Thanks!

is the deities and domains in the works? they seem to be blank, the heritages and conditions are there

BTW: good work

The Shoony Heritages don't show if you create a Shoony using only the player's resource for Extinction curse 3. If you load the actual ap though they show up when creating a shoony character.

Hi StevenP,

Thanks for reporting and sorry about that. There was a major ruleset change and while I fixed the main module, I had forgotten that there was a player's module that also had the heritages. I will fix it immediately. It will be live in next Tuesday's LIVE update.

-Danny

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Originally Posted by sciencephile

Hi StevenP,

Thanks for reporting and sorry about that. There was a major ruleset change and while I fixed the main module, I had forgotten that there was a player's module that also had the heritages. I will fix it immediately. It will be live in next Tuesday's LIVE update.

-Danny

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No problem sir, I was just testing out the new heritage and did one for each, when I noticed it. Thanks for the quick response. You guys are killing it with PF2e. Keep making and ill keep buying.

You're welcome. Glad you like it, though most of that credit goes to Trenloe as he is the one doing the real work with the ruleset, even if it does force me to make updates to the adventure modules periodically :)

I have fixed the issue as promised and have turned it in. It will be in the LIVE system next Tuesday but will likely be in the TEST system tomorrow.

Hello,

I was adding a sturdy shield to a player's character and it wasn't working correctly after adding it to the inventory and equipping it. It wouldn't apply the armor class bonus when raising the shield. I think this is because it is of the category "Shields" and not "Shield".
Comparing a Steel shield to a Sturdy shield you'll see that the sturdy shield doesn't list an AC bonus, hardness, HP and BT:
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After adding the sturdy shield to the inventory, unlocking it, changing the Category to "Shield", locking and unlocking it again, I could enter the required data. I think it would be preferable if it applied the right bonusses right away? ;)

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Originally Posted by Lowlander

Hello,

I was adding a sturdy shield to a player's character and it wasn't working correctly after adding it to the inventory and equipping it. It wouldn't apply the armor class bonus when raising the shield. I think this is because it is of the category "Shields" and not "Shield".
Comparing a Steel shield to a Sturdy shield you'll see that the sturdy shield doesn't list an AC bonus, hardness, HP and BT:
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After adding the sturdy shield to the inventory, unlocking it, changing the Category to "Shield", locking and unlocking it again, I could enter the required data. I think it would be preferable if it applied the right bonusses right away? ;)

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Thanks for reporting. I've expanded issue CR2.062 to cover shields and weapons.

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Originally Posted by Trenloe

Thanks for reporting. I've expanded issue CR2.062 to cover shields and weapons.

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FYI - I found that the "Lion's Shield" also suffers from this issue. I was not sure if you were just covering the base shield, so I thought I would add it here in case
Also, I love all the new updates. This is shaping into a stellar ruleset. Thanks for that Trenloe!

In the Pathfinder 2e Core Rules Reference Manual, there's a typo in the Sample Barbarian. The Animal Rager gives a suggested Hunter's Edge rather than Instinct. Attachment 36852

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Originally Posted by Ibhuk

In the Pathfinder 2e Core Rules Reference Manual, there's a typo in the Sample Barbarian. The Animal Rager gives a suggested Hunter's Edge rather than Instinct.

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Thanks for reporting. Logged as CR2.071.

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Originally Posted by hehaub

FYI - I found that the "Lion's Shield" also suffers from this issue. I was not sure if you were just covering the base shield, so I thought I would add it here in case

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CR2.062 is covering all armor, shields and weapons in the Core Rules chapter 11.

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Originally Posted by hehaub

Also, I love all the new updates. This is shaping into a stellar ruleset. Thanks for that Trenloe!

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Thanks! We're slowly getting there... :)