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Yeah, I will be using it for when I test out different systems or run oneshots to explore new functions (primarilly combat map and memory constraint related).Quote:
Originally Posted by notrealdan
Beta should be by definition be feature complete though.
With respect to the use of demo during the beta... I agree, you want people to use it for sessions to find those bugs. However, that must be balanced against their consenting to participating in a beta.
A demo user is a potential purchaser of the product. If they haven't opted in to the beta because only the DM opted in and the DM has an ultimate license... that is not a best case scenario.
Groups where all the users have opted in is the smart path ahead, in my opinion. That is obvious where everyone is already onboard with a license. It may require some obtaining of consent with respect to demo users. Smiteworks may develop a plan to address this. It is certainly not an insurmountable obstacle. (It may actually have to be addressed if any part of the beta will be under an NDA... which requires the consent of each individual.)
Have 5 DM's (out of our discord group of 19). We took a DM vote and decided we are all doing Kickstarter Ultimate. We will be testing between DM's before we throw it to the group. We left it up to them to decide if they wanted to purchase or run demo's. And that's the way it is.
Or it could create a kickback if people back at an ultimate level with alpha or beta in mind and cannot do anything with their hundred dollar purchase until December.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramza0Tyr
I think the best option for FG would probably be "purchases of FG:U during the kickstarter grant a FG:C license. Avoiding that issue somewhat with a statement regarding beta access requiring people to use standard edition FG:U or higher to connect for now.
This is if they do not wish to have a FG:U demo version open, but that could be its own issue.
But we don't know what they are planning at the moment, hence asking the question. Guessing does nothing at this point and only SW has the answer.
SW has stated that purchasing an FGU license during the KS will not grant an FGC license.
SW has stated that in order to stream FGU you will need an agreement with SW because FGU Beta will be under a license (i.e. NDA) that requires an agreement to stream.
Not your Business, so your thoughts on the matter are irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by lostsanityreturned
I am sure that Doug thought about this ahead of time.
Please keep discussions and comments polite please.
It’s fine for people to post their thoughts and hopes for the FGU Kickstarter and product.
I would be totally into that, just to be able to say I had to sign an NDA once.
Hopefully the XML in FGU will be able to use the UTF-8 character set instead of ISO-8859-1. My biggest hope for FGU :)
IN most cases a Kickstarter is paid for at end of the campaign and delivered months later. I dont think that will be a big hurdle.Quote:
Originally Posted by lostsanityreturned
Beta testing does look like it could be restricted to groups where they all get in n the Kickstarter though?
I am not saying that they will, I was just hypothesising the best way I could think of for them to circumvent that issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordEntrails
It is why I wrote "I think" rather than "It would be" :)
I do not expect them to do so though. (keep in mind, again, I have FG:C, I plan on going all in on FGU and already asked every player to buy FG:U regardless so it literally has no bearing on my plans)
Peoples expectations impact quite heavily, I have seen this with a lot of non physical products before or when people have to wait longer to obtain something they perceive as already having paid for. The mental divide between owning an Ultimate edition and not getting any benefit out of owning an Ultimate edition until later on, it is recoverable of course, but it is better to get out ahead of these things.Quote:
Originally Posted by damned
Hopefully there is an influx of new users via the kickstarter. Ideally I would like to see it blow up somewhat and gain a decent amount of hype/excitement, another part of why I am encouraging my players to back now.
Actually, on that note. Standard license addon options and/or a 5 pack pledge level of standard licenses could be a good option for the kickstarter. For people wanting to buy gifts or buy licenses for their groups.
I make my own Mod files will they still work in FGU
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Falselight
See post #1: "Backward compatibility with all existing campaigns and DLC from FGC" A user created module is essentially the same as DLC.
why is this month of April so long? :cry:
Because it's National Grilled Cheese month here in the US, and Grilled Cheese is awesome, so you want it to last as long as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunnyhunt3r
May will be worse - just think about it, campaign due to start on 5/1 and will probably run for 30 days, campaign closes, 2 week wait for payment, another month of last-minute updates and fixes on the back-end. Backerkits go out, wait 30 days to close backerkits, two week wait for payment, another week for treatment of spreadsheet madness syndrome, then beta codes & download instructions go out. estimated arrival late july - early august. 3 months of testing and bug-squashing, then final release right before xmas break.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunnyhunt3r
It will be interesting to see where the alpha phase fits in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lensman
Umm, except didn't Doug et al say on the stream that they were expecting FGU Beta to available in December? Or was that v1 and Beta would be available something like you timeline?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lensman
I'm pretty sure he said the full release would be targeted for December, with the alpha and beta versions coming well before that.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordEntrails
From here, it sounds like Alpha to be put out during the party in Florida this summer, Beta roughly 2 months later, and full release in December. If all goes well. :)
ThxQuote:
Originally Posted by notrealdan
Sorry if we've already talked about it, but would it be possible for a strechgoal to propose new rulesets (yes, I'm talking about you Chaosium's Runequest, and you Modiphius's Star Trek !).
I wouldn't be holding out hope for startrek, well atleast not until after modiphius get their conan ruleset done... it has been over 12 months since they started on that with no end in sight... so...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunnyhunt3r
I think anything is possible, but the timeframe for development of a ruleset probably doesn't fit well in the KS timeline. Besides, most rulesets originate as community projects that reach a level of maturity and professionalism that then they become official/supported rulesets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunnyhunt3r
But, it never hurts to ask :)
Targeted kickstarters for specific rulesets might be the best approach. That way we can see if there is enough interest to support any given system and fail prior to making any commitment if there is not enough customer interest. If there is, then we can have those funds guaranteed in order to hire or contract someone to do the development.
Since almost anything in a stretch goal will take additional time to develop and deliver, here's my thought... Anything offered in stretch goals could come with the caveat that those would be developed and delivered *after* the initial, full release of FGU. That way "phase 1" doesn't need to be delayed, and the stretch goals sort of become features that are promised to be next on the list. That could open up more possibilities for interesting stretch goals, if we don't have to worry about them delaying the initial FGU release.
Question on Veteran Ultimate: How do we tell you we are veterans to ultimate? Order Number?
By the date you should be able to find in your Order history?Quote:
Originally Posted by Niven81
We will ask for your license key and match based on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niven81
I started looking up FantasyGrounds today based on a recommendation of some people I know. I'm very much interested in the Unity edition but if I purchase an ultimate license now it would be $149+30 (179) as opposed to the $135 as a newcomer. Is there going to be a Kickstarter tier where you can get access to the older edition until unity comes at a reasonable discount?
Nope. KS is only for the new version, FGU. Note that the expected release of the production version of FGU is December. So if you don't go for a classic license, FGC, then you will have to wait some time. Hence why the discounted KS prices.Quote:
Originally Posted by ofidian
That said, those of us who have been using FG for some time feel that you will feel the purchase now and then the KS update is well worth it.
Or, you could always go for the &9.95/mo subscription Ultimate license, but then you would still need the Newcomer KS licenses, so you wouldn't really be saving much since it will probably be 3 months or more until the beta is where you might want to use it for live games.
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will we be able to build cool spell effects ie have a fire ball explode on screen or a light bolt fly across screen if we cast lighting in D&D
Certainly not on initial release but who knows what might be possible down the road.Quote:
Originally Posted by Falselight
Just want to confirm whether or not the content I have paid hundreds of dollars for (after the cost of the ultimate license) will transfer to FGC Unity.
FGU will be compatible with the stuff you already purchased for FG classicQuote:
Originally Posted by MysticCelt
Read the first post in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by MysticCelt
Very happy about this news ( Thanks for an ultimate user like me before 2018, there is no much to pay)
Anyone could tell me if it will be possible to have a pointer ? ( in order to point out a special location in the maps to others players in a rapid way )
Is it just me, or does it feel like April has 240 days this year?
A quick way in the existing FG is to left+right click and drag to create your arrow pointer. Then left+right click on it again to remove itQuote:
Originally Posted by Smoltok