Star Wars: Edge of the Empire, Age of Rebellion, Force and Destiny v2 ruleset

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Originally Posted by Unahim

- Since the very start of using the Ruleset, my players have occasionally been getting script errors when things happen in the combat tracker. I'll try to get them to copy the errors and give them to you with some details as to the situation in which they occur when next I see it.
- After the 3.2 update, all my NPC tabs dissappeared and became a single tab. I split them up into tabs again, but now every time I open the NPC list I get this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/89840924/error.png . It seems like the module is trying to show all my NPCs from all tabs (they show up for a split second), but then immediately hides their names, yet doesn't collapse the list. If I switch tabs everything displays fine, but if I close and re-open NPCses it happens again, every time.

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Thanks for reporting.

If you could provide more info about the combat tracker errors, that would be great. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Unahim

Oh, also, as a feature request: it would be nice to have a bit more in-depth star ship sheets available aside from just the party ship. If the party ever has two ships, for instance, I can only really "save" all the info for one of them, and the other I have to make do with just a Vehicle sheet.

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I'd recommend tracking additional info regarding a second/third/99th ship in a story or note entry.

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Originally Posted by Unahim

Any reason not to have the Vehicle sheets be just as extensive as the party ship sheet?

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Yep - vehicles can be dragged to a PC or NPC record to give them access to all of the features of the vehicle. I basically made the vehicle records to allow entering all of the data required to operate them, without overloading the record which would have made PC/NPC records with vehicles overloaded.

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Originally Posted by Xydonus

Hey Unahim,

To fix the npc list bug you have - just select another tab, and then go back to it. That should sort it out.

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Yeah, I know. It's just a bit odd.

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Originally Posted by Trenloe

Thanks for reporting.

If you could provide more info about the combat tracker errors, that would be great. Thanks.

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I asked my players to warn me about any they got, but nothing cropped up for them last session, it seems; however, I did get some myself:

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Basically whenever I right clicked to clear init slots after an encounter, or in preparation of a new encounter, I would get errors like that.

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I'd recommend tracking additional info regarding a second/third/99th ship in a story or note entry.

Yep - vehicles can be dragged to a PC or NPC record to give them access to all of the features of the vehicle. I basically made the vehicle records to allow entering all of the data required to operate them, without overloading the record which would have made PC/NPC records with vehicles overloaded.

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Yeah, that should work well enough. Wasn't trying to be hard on you or anything, just thought I'd throw my wishlisting out there. ^^

Hi, I am curious about this ruleset and if it is working with the latest FG2 version (as the ruleset is now over a year old). I am considering this or Roll20 to start an Age of Rebellion campaign. Does the ruleset accommodate AoR?

Hi Ceodryn,
This ruleset is fantastic! It's working and being actively supported, I run a regular game and have had no problems. As for AoR, it is fully supported as is F&D.

Give it a go, you'll see how good it is, and if you have any questions, there are plenty of great people here to help you out.

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Originally Posted by Ceodryn

Hi, I am curious about this ruleset and if it is working with the latest FG2 version (as the ruleset is now over a year old). I am considering this or Roll20 to start an Age of Rebellion campaign. Does the ruleset accommodate AoR?

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Originally Posted by ianmward

Hi Ceodryn,
This ruleset is fantastic! It's working and being actively supported, I run a regular game and have had no problems. As for AoR, it is fully supported as is F&D.

Give it a go, you'll see how good it is, and if you have any questions, there are plenty of great people here to help you out.

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I confirm. It's very good - You can play in all new SW RPG (Edge of the Empire, Force and Destiny and Age of Rebellion).

Thanks guys. I tested it, and it is indeed very impressive. I downloaded the library that was in the first post, and the other made by CryAxe. At first I got lots of script errors, but when closing and re-opening the ruleset, it seems it is all fixed.

I realize the libraries are based on OggDude, and are limited in text appearing. I was curious about the pictures however. Say I wanted to have a picture of an T-47 airspeeder linked to the t-47 library entry, how do I go about it? I remember from my WFRP3 coding day that I can go and edit it directly in the library, or create a token library separate that is linked. All fine, but I will never have time to do so for now. When I am working on a campaign, is there a simpler way I can put a picture in a map and link it to a t-47?

Thanks

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Originally Posted by Ceodryn

Say I wanted to have a picture of an T-47 airspeeder linked to the t-47 library entry, how do I go about it? I remember from my WFRP3 coding day that I can go and edit it directly in the library, or create a token library separate that is linked. All fine, but I will never have time to do so for now. When I am working on a campaign, is there a simpler way I can put a picture in a map and link it to a t-47?

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Normally you'd just drag a record link to the "Description" section of the item. However, this doesn't appear to be working - the formattedtext control isn't accepting drag/drop of links. Logged as an issue in post #3, let me look at that...

I'm doing some adjustments to this ruleset for private games of a homebrew 40k system based on the Edge of the Empire rules that one of the guys in my group has been working on. I don't really know much about this programming language, but luckily it's just changing strings and set values mostly. I have two questions that could really help me out in learning more about it and how it's done:

- I can see where skills are autogenerated upon initilizing a character sheet, but where are the files that it draws the names, descriptions, etc of these skills from? I've gone through the entire ruleset (it feels like) and can't really find it.
- Where can I change the "baby blue" background of the character sheets? There doesn't seem to be an image for that so I assume it's programmatically somewhere?

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Originally Posted by Unahim

- I can see where skills are autogenerated upon initilizing a character sheet, but where are the files that it draws the names, descriptions, etc of these skills from? I've gone through the entire ruleset (it feels like) and can't really find it.

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Skills data is stored in classes\common\data_common.lua

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Originally Posted by Unahim

- Where can I change the "baby blue" background of the character sheets? There doesn't seem to be an image for that so I assume it's programmatically somewhere?

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This is a window frame. The graphic is graphics\frames\charsheet.png

Frames are different from just pure graphics as they allow resizing of the overall graphics shown in FG. They have areas of the graphic that are used to create the end image shown in FG - check the "charsheet" framedef in graphics\frames\base.xml for the definition of the various frame sections. More info on frames here: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/modguide/resources.xcp

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Originally Posted by Trenloe

Skills data is stored in classes\common\data_common.lua


This is a window frame. The graphic is graphics\frames\charsheet.png

Frames are different from just pure graphics as they allow resizing of the overall graphics shown in FG. They have areas of the graphic that are used to create the end image shown in FG - check the "charsheet" framedef in graphics\frames\base.xml for the definition of the various frame sections. More info on frames here: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/modguide/resources.xcp

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Thanks a lot for that, changed both of those and a number of other things to my satisfaction now. It's cool how many threads there are around to find info on changing shape of portraits, background, etc...

One question I still have at the moment: I found where to change the hover text for the dice on the desktop, but not where to change the name of the labels on them?

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Originally Posted by Unahim

One question I still have at the moment: I found where to change the hover text for the dice on the desktop, but not where to change the name of the labels on them?

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It's built into the graphic. See graphics\icons\dBoost.png as an example.

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Originally Posted by Trenloe

It's built into the graphic. See graphics\icons\dBoost.png as an example.

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Awesome, thanks.

On another note, had my players capture a few script errors we got during game of EoTE yesterday (so not the 40k version I've been making adjustments to).

This was when a player joined the game:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/isxfhahdz1...error.txt?dl=0

This during adding/removing players from the combat tracker:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...rorscreens.jpg

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Originally Posted by Unahim

Awesome, thanks.

On another note, had my players capture a few script errors we got during game of EoTE yesterday (so not the 40k version I've been making adjustments to).

This was when a player joined the game:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/isxfhahdz1...error.txt?dl=0

This during adding/removing players from the combat tracker:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...rorscreens.jpg

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Thanks for reporting. I'm unable to create these errors. Can you give me some more info please?

1) What version of the ruleset is reported in the chat window?
2) What is your setup? Are players local or remote? Are you running any "localhost" instances on the same PC as the GM?
3) Did the errors occur on the GM or player side? Or both?

1) It says V2.1.0 (FG 3.0.12+)
2) My setup? Well, all my players connect to me remotely. I sometimes connect a localhost instance on my PC to GM important NPC with a portrait, but I don't think one was running at that time, and looking at the logs seems to confirm that.
3) Both errors occurred on the player side, but I've had errors on GM side before too.

I think it has something to do with the combat tracker, adding/removing things there often triggers errors for both me and my players (though rarely both groups at the same time, and usually only specific players). I had stuff still in my combat tracker on startup, including the character belonging to the player who got the first error when he joined the game, so maybe even that error could be related somehow?

I get those as well.

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Originally Posted by pauljmendoza

I get those as well.

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Any idea on steps to reproduce?

It seems to only happen after the combat tracker is in use, or being modified or filled. We may have a game this weekend, so I can gather whatever information I can.

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Originally Posted by pauljmendoza

It seems to only happen after the combat tracker is in use, or being modified or filled. We may have a game this weekend, so I can gather whatever information I can.

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I stopped using the combat tracker during my game last week. I would get script errors and then the game would crash. I'm not sure what action in the combat tracker caused it.

Would it be possible to make it so when I create something in a non default tab that it shows up in that tab and not in the default tab?

I know its a minor thing but I would really like this change.


Vires Animi

Do you have any extensions on, and/or tried it with no extensions? I was getting some errors initially and that is what they were coming from.

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Originally Posted by TheSourceHD

I stopped using the combat tracker during my game last week. I would get script errors and then the game would crash. I'm not sure what action in the combat tracker caused it.

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I'm unable to reproduce these issues, but would like assistance with trying to track them down.

So, please make a copy of any script errors that occur - press the "Copy to Clipboard" button at the top left of the console, and then post here. Please describe what was happening when the errors occurred - the more detailed the better.

And, include details of any extensions you might be running - most CoreRPG extensions won't work, you're pretty much restricted to the extensions specifically designed for this ruleset.

Had a game last night using the ruleset. Didn't get any errors using the tracker.

I play last Friday with friends, didn't get any errors

I posted a question on the workshop about something I'm trying to change with your ruleset. The reply I received made me wonder if you are interested in receiving requests for features in the ruleset. I believe you said somewhere in here that you would eventually go back to it and update the ruleset to bring it in line with the current core ruleset. If you are interested in some feature requests, I know I have a few I think would be beneficial.

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Originally Posted by Archamus

I posted a question on the workshop about something I'm trying to change with your ruleset. The reply I received made me wonder if you are interested in receiving requests for features in the ruleset. I believe you said somewhere in here that you would eventually go back to it and update the ruleset to bring it in line with the current core ruleset. If you are interested in some feature requests, I know I have a few I think would be beneficial.

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I have other priorities at the moment (you may have read about the recent Paizo announcement), but I have not stopped development of this ruleset. I track feature requests in post #4 of this thread, and I consider any requests for future inclusion.

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Originally Posted by Trenloe

I have other priorities at the moment (you may have read about the recent Paizo announcement), but I have not stopped development of this ruleset. I track feature requests in post #4 of this thread, and I consider any requests for future inclusion.

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I had not heard the news about Paizo, that's great!

As for feature requests:
1) A Force Rating tracker on the character sheet with the ability to use it to add dice to the die pool. There is a perfect spot for it on charsheetmain.xml.
2) The ability for characters to have multiple vehicles. Perhaps they can just be entered into the inventory with a checkbox to indicate which vehicle should occupy the vehicle tab. That way you can have a character who owns the freighter and a speederbike, or give the player their own vehicle button on the right side of the screen, this could probably replace the story button that is there right now.
3) A separate ability template to categorize Force powers. It is easy to put them in talents, but it would be nice if they were in their own category.
4) Create a way for the GM to put the difficulty, setback, and challenge dice into chat in such a way that players can then drag that onto their diepool. Perhaps by holding shift while dragging to chat. Being able to drop these dice directly on the player is great, until they realize they clicked the wrong skill and click the appropriate one and undo all the GMs hard dragging and dropping work. Also, being able to use hotkeys to add those to chat would be very convenient.

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Originally Posted by Archamus

1) A Force Rating tracker on the character sheet with the ability to use it to add dice to the die pool. There is a perfect spot for it on charsheetmain.xml.
2) The ability for characters to have multiple vehicles. Perhaps they can just be entered into the inventory with a checkbox to indicate which vehicle should occupy the vehicle tab. That way you can have a character who owns the freighter and a speederbike, or give the player their own vehicle button on the right side of the screen, this could probably replace the story button that is there right now.
3) A separate ability template to categorize Force powers. It is easy to put them in talents, but it would be nice if they were in their own category.
4) Create a way for the GM to put the difficulty, setback, and challenge dice into chat in such a way that players can then drag that onto their diepool. Perhaps by holding shift while dragging to chat. Being able to drop these dice directly on the player is great, until they realize they clicked the wrong skill and click the appropriate one and undo all the GMs hard dragging and dropping work. Also, being able to use hotkeys to add those to chat would be very convenient.

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Thanks for the feedback, I've added these to the feature request list in post #4.

For #1 - I see you've already done the XML for the GUI (which is the hard bit as far as I'm concerned). If you don't mind providing me with the XML, I could do the LUA to make this work and do a quick new releases with this.

#2 - Yeah, vehicles still need some work. The GM can add a new vehicle to a player by drag/dropping the vehicle record, but this will overwrite the current vehicle there. I'll have to think of a good way of allowing players (and the GM) to change vehicles around.

#4 - Good idea. I've just realised, based off your post, that the GM can drag/drop dice to the dicepool viewer, but this doesn't reflect through to the player side and so isn't part of the roll. It was never intended for the GM to be able to add dice to a player dice pool, so I'll block this pseduo functionality from happening. It's best that only the player builds their own dice pool, but it might be nice to have the ability to quickly add a fixed pool of dice.

In my games I rarely find that the players select the wrong skill after the first couple of rolls, I'm always surprised how quickly players pick up the dice mechanics.

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Originally Posted by Trenloe

Thanks for the feedback, I've added these to the feature request list in post #4.

For #1 - I see you've already done the XML for the GUI (which is the hard bit as far as I'm concerned). If you don't mind providing me with the XML, I could do the LUA to make this work and do a quick new releases with this.

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Actually I just got it working completely about two minutes ago, dragging to the diebox or chat window, as well as double clicking to append to the diebox (not overwriting what is there like skills so). I did not include a description for it though, because I don't know how to keep it from overwriting the skilldescription it is being used with on doubleclick.

I'll go make a zip of all the files I changed for it if you'd like. May take me a little bit, because I want to use the zip to recreate what I just did with a fresh version of your ruleset so I can be sure I didn't miss any files.

Here you go.


I would be surprised if there wasn't a better way of making the lua work. It was a LOT of trial and error before it started working for me. Let me know if something didn't work or if there are any questions.

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Originally Posted by Trenloe

Thanks for the feedback, I've added these to the feature request list in post #4.
#2 - Yeah, vehicles still need some work. The GM can add a new vehicle to a player by drag/dropping the vehicle record, but this will overwrite the current vehicle there. I'll have to think of a good way of allowing players (and the GM) to change vehicles around.

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My solution on this for now was to alter the "other" tab on the character sheet so that links of any kind can be dropped in the notes section. That way players will be able to have multiple vehicle entries there that they can then just drag to the top part of the character sheet to populate the "vehicles" tab as needed. It allows them to keep anything that has a link there though.

Update v2.1.1 available for download from post #1.

New features:

1. Force rating added to PC sheet. Thanks Archamus for the code for this.
2. NPC building activities (adding skills, items, talents, abilities, etc. to a NPC) are no longer shown in the player chat window, only the GM chat displays this data. Drag/Drop changes to wounds, strain and conditions will still be shown to players, manual changes won't be shown.
3. Players can add a vehicle to their PC sheet by dragging a vehicle link to anywhere on the PC sheet except notes fields. Previously only a GM could add vehicles to a PC.
4. Drag/drop of links to formatted text fields added for: PC notes, NPC notes, Party Sheet starship notes and notes tab notes, Item notes. Dragging records to these notes fields will create a link within the note, it won't add the record to the destination.

The addition of player PC vehicle assignment and links on player notes allows the GM to share vehicle records with players (GM drags link to the chat window), then the players can drag that link to their character sheet to add the vehicle (over writes current vehicle) or drag the link to a notes field on the PC sheet or a campaign notes record for later use.

Added some image resize functionality, via right-click within an image -> Resize:

1. Adjust Vertical and Adjust Horizontal are taken from CoreRPG. These allow you to quickly set one dimension (say horizontal width) and then select Resize -> Adjust Vertical to adjust to vertical size of the image/map keeping the horizontal width the size you set. This is a very handy piece of functionality that allows you to very quickly view the full map on your screen.
2. Resize to Grid - this allows those of us who run face-to-face games to set the size of our TV/projector, add a grid to an image and then size the image so that each square is 1 inch on the TV/projected image. Info here: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...-To-Face-games

Issues fixed:

• GM could add dice into the dice pool viewer, but these don't add to the actual player dice pool. This was never intended, players should build their own dice pool. Drag/drop of dice to dice pool viewer disabled.
• Campaign option Dice -> Clear dice pool on drag didn't work when deselected - i.e. dice pool was always cleared when a skill is added.

Note: There is still further work to be done with vehicle functionality. But, hopefully the minor change to allow players to add/change vehicles will help some at this state.

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Originally Posted by pauljmendoza

Question, is there a way to halt the automatic broadcasting of things given (Talents, Gear, etc) to NPC's in chat? Everyone can see it, and I really don't want to keep doing that if I have to adjust NPC's on the fly. O_O

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Added this request to v2.1.1 released today.

Awesome job! Thank you Trenloe....as always. Happy Holidays.

Nice! Can't wait to try this out once my group gets back together. Thanks for your work Trenloe, it's always appreciated. Now maybe I should stop slacking on the libraries, sorry guys just been busy with work.

No worries @Miekael, you've done a lot of work already and it's really appreciated.

Update: I forgot to mention that I'd added a couple of additional pieces of image resize functionality, via right-click within an image -> Resize:

1. Adjust Vertical and Adjust Horizontal are taken from CoreRPG. These allow you to quickly set one dimension (say horizontal width) and then select Resize -> Adjust Vertical to adjust to vertical size of the image/map keeping the horizontal width the size you set. This is a very handy piece of functionality that allows you to very quickly view the full map on your screen.
2. Resize to Grid - this allows those of us who run face-to-face games to set the size of our TV/projector, add a grid to an image and then size the image so that each square is 1 inch on the TV/projected image. Info here: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...-To-Face-games

Here's a photo of me using a TV for face-to-face Star Wars and Fantasy Grounds gaming, with the resize to TV functionality getting the map just right for minis.

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...chmentid=17108

Nice :) Thank you for update

I made a little extension to change the appearance of the diebox if anyone wants to use it. I wanted to make it match the chat box and also make the buttons seem as if they are integrated into the frame instead of floating there.

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...3&d=1483143282
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Link to the extension.

Hi Archamus,
Looks and works great! Thanks for the update.

Thanks for the new updates, they're very nice to have.