5E - Better Combat Effects Gold

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Originally Posted by rhagelstrom

Might be able to get this to work in some convoluted way. Let me think about it for a bit and try some things

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The very first thing that came to mind when attempting to apply an effect when attacking was using something like the SDMGADDS/T feature except for attacks instead of damage. The ATKA feature was promising except it's not limited to a specific weapon, not even when used in combination with AE.

This is going to be a little complicated but here it is.

On your Kensi Weapon add the advanced effect

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Kensi

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You'll need to make a Weapon for your unarmed strike so you can attach an advanced effect to it. Once you do attach the following and set it to action only

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IF CUSTOM(Kensi); ATKADD: KensiAdd

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Then finally you'll need the custom effect in your effect list. You can get rid of the IFTN if you aren't using untrue effects

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KensiAdd;  TURNRS; IFN: Incapacitated; AC: 2 melee

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Seems to be working for me but I want to do some more testing with the other changes and then this should all work next update.

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Originally Posted by septantrionalis

If we're talking about the Fantasy Grounds built in Duration field when talking about the how "round" is working, the round is expiring for me when the round advances to the top of the initiative order.

Thank you MrDDT for your time and patients.

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So standard FGU 1 duration is you apply an effect, and when it gets to the sources start of a turn who applied the effect, it will be removed.

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[ROUND 13]
[TURN] Blink Dog
[TURN] 1
[TURN] T1Test
Effect ['FS; IF: custom(Kensei Weapon); AC: 2'] -> [to Blink Dog] [by T1Test]
Effect ['FS; IF: custom(Kensei Weapon); AC: 2'] -> [to 1] [by T1Test]
Effect ['FS; IF: custom(Kensei Weapon); AC: 2'] -> [to T1Test]
[ROUND 14]
[TURN] Blink Dog
[TURN] 1
Effect ['FS; IF: custom(Kensei Weapon); AC: 2'] -> [EXPIRED] [on Blink Dog]
Effect ['FS; IF: custom(Kensei Weapon); AC: 2'] -> [EXPIRED] [on 1]
Effect ['FS; IF: custom(Kensei Weapon); AC: 2'] -> [EXPIRED] [on T1Test]
[TURN] T1Test

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Here you can see Blink Dog with INIT of 3 goes first.
Then 1 with INIT of 2 goes second.
Then T1Test with INIT 1 goes 3rd.
On T1Test's turn they apply an effect to all 3 at the same time.
Next turn (and round next round), it is now Blink Dog's turn (effect is still on them)
Blink Dog passes turn (effect still on them)
1's turn, effects still on everyone, then passes turn.
All effects are removed from everyone, it's now the start of T1Test's turn.

This is normal FGU 1 round duration of an effect.

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Originally Posted by rhagelstrom

This is going to be a little complicated but here it is.

On your Kensi Weapon add the advanced effect

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Kensi

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You'll need to make a Weapon for your unarmed strike so you can attach an advanced effect to it. Once you do attach the following and set it to action only

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IF CUSTOM(Kensi); ATKADD: KensiAdd

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Then finally you'll need the custom effect in your effect list. You can get rid of the IFTN if you aren't using untrue effects

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KensiAdd;  TURNRS; IFN: Incapacitated; AC: 2 melee

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Seems to be working for me but I want to do some more testing with the other changes and then this should all work next update.

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Wow nice work dude, this is going to be cool.

So for this coding you use Untrue Effects for the IFN: coding and also Advanced Effects for the ACTION only coding for the IF CUSTOM and ATKADD. Thanks this is going to be useful.

Some nerdy info on effect duration that many of you might already know:

Effects duration is decremented on initiative count. You might ask, why do we need TURNRS when FG just removes it on my turn anyhow? Ties! if you have two actors with the same init, the effect will expire on the first actor to act on that initiative. TURNRS ensures that it stays on the actor until it is actually that actors turn.

Version Update 3.24:
Feature: ATKADD - Add custom effect when the attack action is taken
Changed: Forced ongoing saves to use new mod format. Will re-write effects with old format as new format
Fixed: Conflict with Constitutional Amendments on string contains
Added: Guard to protect against malformed effects

I found a bug with the DUR syntax.

Whenever I attempt to create an effect with a duration that gets set via the DUR syntax ... it's actually damaging the NPC or PC the effect is applied to for the same amount as the duration generated. See the image attached.
Attachment 54006

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Originally Posted by rhagelstrom

Some nerdy info on effect duration that many of you might already know:

Effects duration is decremented on initiative count. You might ask, why do we need TURNRS when FG just removes it on my turn anyhow? Ties! if you have two actors with the same init, the effect will expire on the first actor to act on that initiative. TURNRS ensures that it stays on the actor until it is actually that actors turn.

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This explains why my tests led me astray. I didn't bother applying initiative rolls in my test. Thank you MrDDT and rhagelstrom for setting me straight. Again.

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Originally Posted by rhagelstrom

This is going to be a little complicated but here it is.

On your Kensi Weapon add the advanced effect

Code:

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Kensi

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You'll need to make a Weapon for your unarmed strike so you can attach an advanced effect to it. Once you do attach the following and set it to action only

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IF CUSTOM(Kensi); ATKADD: KensiAdd

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Then finally you'll need the custom effect in your effect list. You can get rid of the IFTN if you aren't using untrue effects

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KensiAdd;  TURNRS; IFN: Incapacitated; AC: 2 melee

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Seems to be working for me but I want to do some more testing with the other changes and then this should all work next update.

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This is awesome. Thank you rhagelstrom. FYI, with the new addition of ATKADD, my testing shows you do not need to apply the Action Only option.

Version Update: 3.25
Feature: Tag SDC now does damage filters. damagetype or all
Feature: ADV/DIS Saves against magicial spells and effects with ADVCOND: magic and DISCOND: magic
Changed: Toned down the save icon color to fit more in with default theme
Fixed: DUR applying ongoing damage, bad BCE merge
Fixed: FROMAURA applying multiple times

Still Getting the Aura multiple effects.

Screen for reference.

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Originally Posted by nephranka

Still Getting the Aura multiple effects.

Screen for reference.

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Fixed via Aura update

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Originally Posted by rhagelstrom

Fixed via Aura update

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Working now. Thank you!

Got another bug discovered with the most recent update.

It would appear that now BCEG conflicts with the base game's saving throw usage, at least within the 5E rule set. Please see the picture attached.

Attachment 54081

Using BCEG syntax to prompt a saving throw works fine, but using the base game's syntax to do so generates the error in the image. I isolated this down to BCEG only, didn't have any other extensions running, and confirmed that this isn't an issue with the base game itself, as the saving throw syntax works fine when the game is run with no extensions at all.

Hi,

I recently purchased this, and some modules from the 5e Automatic Effects series. I would like to automate the sneak attack damage for my player's rogue character. I cannot find an effect to do that. Some advice would be really appreciated and it's hard making sense of what to do next. What do others use? Again, any help is much appreciated!

Probably not what you're hoping to hear ("buy more"), but Kent's Automatic Sneak Attack is (imo) the way to go - it's on DMsGuild.

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Originally Posted by xsection

Hi,

I recently purchased this, and some modules from the 5e Automatic Effects series. I would like to automate the sneak attack damage for my player's rogue character. I cannot find an effect to do that. Some advice would be really appreciated and it's hard making sense of what to do next. What do others use? Again, any help is much appreciated!

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Sure you can auto mate parts of Sneak Attack, what part did you want to automate?

Also as posted above, there is another ext that will check to make sure you qualify for sneak attacks and check your rogue level to give you the correct damage.

Then at the end of that coding for that other ext, you can use BCEG to make it only tick off once per turn, using the coding "Sneak Attack;DUSE; ATURN"

Thanks for the reply - it was very helpful. I was hoping to automate the number of d6 damage, for the corresponding level of the rogue. It seems that multiplying the number of dice by a contact (e.g. [HLVL]) is not obvious in Fantasy grounds. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!

Hellou! This extension helps with the effect of "Bloodwell"? Can I make the "+1 bonus to spell attack rolls and to the saving throw DCs" off the item with this extension?

tks!

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Originally Posted by hrscarvalho

Hellou! This extension helps with the effect of "Bloodwell"? Can I make the "+1 bonus to spell attack rolls and to the saving throw DCs" off the item with this extension?

tks!

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Yes, if I understand this correctly it would be something like:

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Bloodwell; SDC: 1 all

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Originally Posted by jfg1984

Got another bug discovered with the most recent update.

It would appear that now BCEG conflicts with the base game's saving throw usage, at least within the 5E rule set. Please see the picture attached.

Attachment 54081

Using BCEG syntax to prompt a saving throw works fine, but using the base game's syntax to do so generates the error in the image. I isolated this down to BCEG only, didn't have any other extensions running, and confirmed that this isn't an issue with the base game itself, as the saving throw syntax works fine when the game is run with no extensions at all.

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I have this one fixed and it'll be in the next update, hopefully today.

Version Update: 3.26
Fixed: Script error on some drags from the PC sheet
Changed: Damage adjust for extension compatibility
Changed: Save icon to dull shield

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Originally Posted by rhagelstrom

I have this one fixed and it'll be in the next update, hopefully today.

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Great! Thank you.

Good Day rhagelstrom :)
I seem to be having an issue with Fey Ancestry that seems to have started in my game last week (6 Sept 22). Any player or NPC with the Fey Ancestry trait is now saving with advantage versus all spells, not just Charm spells. I tested in a clean campaign with only BCEG running and it happens only with this one. Removing the Fey Ancestry trait from the character sheet also stops this problem. :)

Thanks for such an awesome extension! :)

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Originally Posted by Bonkon

Good Day rhagelstrom :)
I seem to be having an issue with Fey Ancestry that seems to have started in my game last week (6 Sept 22). Any player or NPC with the Fey Ancestry trait is now saving with advantage versus all spells, not just Charm spells. I tested in a clean campaign with only BCEG running and it happens only with this one. Removing the Fey Ancestry trait from the character sheet also stops this problem. :)

Thanks for such an awesome extension! :)

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Confirmed.. thanks for letting us know.

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Originally Posted by Bonkon

Good Day rhagelstrom :)
I seem to be having an issue with Fey Ancestry that seems to have started in my game last week (6 Sept 22). Any player or NPC with the Fey Ancestry trait is now saving with advantage versus all spells, not just Charm spells. I tested in a clean campaign with only BCEG running and it happens only with this one. Removing the Fey Ancestry trait from the character sheet also stops this problem. :)

Thanks for such an awesome extension! :)

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I'll take a look and get a fix in.

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Originally Posted by Bonkon

Good Day rhagelstrom :)
I seem to be having an issue with Fey Ancestry that seems to have started in my game last week (6 Sept 22). Any player or NPC with the Fey Ancestry trait is now saving with advantage versus all spells, not just Charm spells. I tested in a clean campaign with only BCEG running and it happens only with this one. Removing the Fey Ancestry trait from the character sheet also stops this problem. :)

Thanks for such an awesome extension! :)

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I'm having trouble reproducing. If you have a campaign that does this reliably that you could share or steps to reproduce in a clean campaign then I can get this taken care of.

Version Update: 3.27
Fixed - Fey Ancestry incorrectly parsing magic as a damage type
Fixed - SAVEDMG not automatically applying adv/dis for damage type
Fixed - Ongoing Save script error with no target
Fixed - Script error in experimental parsing when text does not have a save modifier
Changed - SAVEDMG in effect builder for mod format

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Originally Posted by rhagelstrom

I'm having trouble reproducing. If you have a campaign that does this reliably that you could share or steps to reproduce in a clean campaign then I can get this taken care of.

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Good Day rhagelstrom :)
Sorry was busy at work, but I see you noted the latest version fixed this. Thanks! :)

Version Update: 3.28
Feature - ELUSIVE - No attack roll has advantage against this Actor
Feature - UNFLANKABLE - Attack rolls do not gain flanking bonuses against this Actor - Requires Flanking and Range extension
Fixed - ADV/DISCOND not working when magical effect

This is so awesome. Man, I don't know what I would do if I couldn't use BCEG anymore with FGU. It's so required for my games now.

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Originally Posted by MrDDT

This is so awesome. Man, I don't know what I would do if I couldn't use BCEG anymore with FGU. It's so required for my games now.

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Same.

I have a question to put to the BCEG community.

Is there anyway any of you can think of to automate when temp HP should go away.

My case in point is the spell Motivational Speech.

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3rd-level enchantment
Casting Time: 1 minute
Range: 60 feet
Components: V
Duration: 1 hour
“I once heard a motivational speech by Jim and it was the worst ninety seconds of my life. What does Omin see in him, anyway?”

— Walnut Dankgrass

You address allies, staff, or innocent bystanders to exhort and inspire them to greatness, whether they have anything to get excited about or not. Choose up to five creatures within range that can hear you. For the duration, each affected creature gains 5 temporary hit points and has advantage on Wisdom saving throws. If an affected creature is hit by an attack, it has advantage on the next attack roll it makes. Once an affected creature loses the temporary hit points granted by this spell, the spell ends for that creature.

At Higher Levels. When you cast this spell using a spell slot of 4th level or higher, the temporary hit points increase by 5 for each slot level above 3rd.

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My automation for this spell so far looks like this:

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Motivational Speech; TREGENA: 5; ADVSAV: wisdom; NOTE: If hit by an attack, receive advantage on the next attack roll made
Targeting: targets
Expend: never
Duration: 60 minutes

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It's functional, but it requires us to manually do 3 things:
1. Go in and end the effect if the temp HP is depleted.
2. Delete the temp HP if they're still there when the duration is over.
3. Tick advantage ourselves if the character is hit, per the spell description.

Any suggestions on how to further automate this would be much appreciated.

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Originally Posted by jfg1984

I have a question to put to the BCEG community.

Is there anyway any of you can think of to automate when temp HP should go away.

My case in point is the spell Motivational Speech.



My automation for this spell so far looks like this:



It's functional, but it requires us to manually do 3 things:
1. Go in and end the effect if the temp HP is depleted.
2. Delete the temp HP if they're still there when the duration is over.
3. Tick advantage ourselves if the character is hit, per the spell description.

Any suggestions on how to further automate this would be much appreciated.

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Can you add DMGAT: all; ADVATK

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Originally Posted by MrDDT

Can you add DMGAT: all; ADVATK

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Yes I can, and I experimented with adding it as a secondary effect, something like:

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Motivational Speech Attack Advantage; DMGAT: 1 all; ADVATK; ATKD; (DE)

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The only thing is that in order for that to proc, the target bearing the effect must take at least 1 point of damage. BCEG's DMGAT syntax does not appear to accept 0 as a damage value. This is only important because the language of the spell stipulates it's the attack hitting that triggers the advantage, not damage taken ... so if you're hit but hit for a damage type you're currently immune to for example, this code wouldn't activate.

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Originally Posted by jfg1984

Yes I can, and I experimented with adding it as a secondary effect, something like:


The only thing is that in order for that to proc, the target bearing the effect must take at least 1 point of damage. BCEG's DMGAT syntax does not appear to accept 0 as a damage value. This is only important because the language of the spell stipulates it's the attack hitting that triggers the advantage, not damage taken ... so if you're hit but hit for a damage type you're currently immune to for example, this code wouldn't activate.

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I don't think you need the 1 there, even a 0 damage attack is likely something you want it to trigger it. 0 damage attacks would be ones that are absorbed by Temp HP or reduced due to DR or something like that.

so you want it to be DMGAT: all

no numbers in front of all.

Good morning community,

some one already code this one?

Block the Path

Until the start of the ogre's next turn, attack rolls against the ogre have disadvantage, it has advantage on the attack roll it makes for an opportunity attack, and that attack deals an extra 16 (3d10) bludgeoning damage on a hit. Also, each enemy that tries to move out of the ogre's reach without teleporting must succeed on a DC 14 Strength saving throw or have its speed reduced to 0 until the start of the ogre's next turn.

have a good saturday!

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Originally Posted by plap3014

Good morning community,

some one already code this one?

Block the Path

Until the start of the ogre's next turn, attack rolls against the ogre have disadvantage, it has advantage on the attack roll it makes for an opportunity attack, and that attack deals an extra 16 (3d10) bludgeoning damage on a hit. Also, each enemy that tries to move out of the ogre's reach without teleporting must succeed on a DC 14 Strength saving throw or have its speed reduced to 0 until the start of the ogre's next turn.

have a good saturday!

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Block the Path; GRANTDISKATK; ADVATK: opportunity

Set it to 1 round, so it will fall off at the start of the ogre's next turn. To do an OPP attack hold shift while rolling the attack (not to be confused with holding shift while doing the damage).
For the extra damage, you will have to apply that per roll, same for the save and note for the target failing the save getting 0 speed.

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Originally Posted by MrDDT

I don't think you need the 1 there, even a 0 damage attack is likely something you want it to trigger it. 0 damage attacks would be ones that are absorbed by Temp HP or reduced due to DR or something like that.

so you want it to be DMGAT: all

no numbers in front of all.

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Just FYI, but this does not work. Whether you use a 0 or no numbers at all, DMGAT as a syntax does not appear to function unless at least 1 point of damage is done.
It's true that I would prefer even a 0 damage attack to trigger the effect, but I don't think this is possible using DMGAT.

It's worth mentioning however that there's no issue with having DMGAT activate from damage dealt to temp hp. There's an option in BCEG I believe where you can select "treat temp hp as damage" or something along those lines and that's working fine. It's when the damage roll result is literally 0 that the effect will not trigger off of a DMGAT effect.

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Originally Posted by jfg1984

Just FYI, but this does not work. Whether you use a 0 or no numbers at all, DMGAT as a syntax does not appear to function unless at least 1 point of damage is done.
It's true that I would prefer even a 0 damage attack to trigger the effect, but I don't think this is possible using DMGAT.

It's worth mentioning however that there's no issue with having DMGAT activate from damage dealt to temp hp. There's an option in BCEG I believe where you can select "treat temp hp as damage" or something along those lines and that's working fine. It's when the damage roll result is literally 0 that the effect will not trigger off of a DMGAT effect.

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Why are they taking 0 damage? Is it because immune? or is it because they have temp HP and it's being absorbed?

Because it will not go off is it's immune or taking 0 damage. It will only go off if they take damage to temp or HP.
I said DR before but I meant DT. If they take 0 due to DT it will also go off. But DR being 0 damage, it wont go off.