Genesys (FFG RPG) work in progress

NEW RELEASE!
Version 2023-04-16

Unless mentioned, the fix or improvement is for both Genesys and Star Wars.

Fixes:
- Fix bug with minion count on Combat Tracker not changing skills.


Improvements:

Known Issue:

NEW Features:
- Genesys and Star Wars:
Health indicators on PCs and NPCs in Map tokens
- Star Wars:
Death indicator in Maps

How to download the new version:

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(P.S.: If you have already done this before, you only need to click "Check for Updates" in FG Unity, and the download will start)

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Star Wars: https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/159/view
(Remember, if you want to use the Star Wars ruleset, make sure to subscribe/download BOTH)


Attention FG Classic users
This update is NOT compatible with FG Classic
I can no longer maintain the code in a way that it works with the old client, I am sorry
You can use an older version of the rulesets, downloading from the google drive link below


Modules and other extensions need to be downloaded from the above link below
https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...R-?usp=sharing

Subscribe/Download the Genesys ruleset even if you are playing Star Wars

Thanks seansps for the contributions on this update!

I ran into an interesting couple of issues.

Everything here pertains to Star Wars

If you have en NPC on the combat tracket with a space ship. If that space ship has taken damage and you then press the link to the npc, to open the NPC sheet, the damage and strain on the ship is reset to zero.

I also had the damage counter on a PC ship go completely apeshit a couple of times and just kept switching between numbers i put in, in a weird flicking kind of way. I have never seen anything like it in FG, but have not been able to reproduce, so will keep an eye on that. Just know that there might be an issue there. I tried to save a log, but I can't seem to do it / find where it went.

If you roll dice, by pressing the button on the dicebox or use the /rolldice command, the dice show the dice colours as intended. If you drag the dice pool with the mouse instead, the dice just defaults to standard colours.


I have recently started another campaign in this after an absence, and I just love all the work put into this.

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I ran into an interesting couple of issues.

Everything here pertains to Star Wars

If you have en NPC on the combat tracket with a space ship. If that space ship has taken damage and you then press the link to the npc, to open the NPC sheet, the damage and strain on the ship is reset to zero.

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I was able to recreate this bug and have put in a change request for johniba to review to fix the issue!

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I also had the damage counter on a PC ship go completely apeshit a couple of times and just kept switching between numbers i put in, in a weird flicking kind of way. I have never seen anything like it in FG, but have not been able to reproduce, so will keep an eye on that. Just know that there might be an issue there. I tried to save a log, but I can't seem to do it / find where it went.

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I suspect my fix above will also fix this. Hard to say though, but let us know if you figure it out!

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Originally Posted by viresanimi

If you roll dice, by pressing the button on the dicebox or use the /rolldice command, the dice show the dice colours as intended. If you drag the dice pool with the mouse instead, the dice just defaults to standard colours.

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I was not able to recreate this one. When I first put in the changes to add the dice color swapping, I did see this bug, it should be fixed with johniba's latest changes. The bug was due to old CoreRPG scripts which were still being used, but that was removed. Do you have an old folder of a ruleset extracted in your rulesets folder? Like for CoreRPG?

Thanks for reporting!

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I suspect my fix above will also fix this. Hard to say though, but let us know if you figure it out!

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Will do!

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Do you have an old folder of a ruleset extracted in your rulesets folder? Like for CoreRPG?

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No. But to be on the safe side, I even downloaded the newest versions of Genesys / Star Wars, just to be sure. I do have a copy of the theme lying about, that I plan on modifying. When I get around to it, but... that shouldn't affect the campaign. I guess.

One more thing I noticed.

Attachments lacks the link icon on their sheet. Items have them. Would be nice to have them on attachments too.

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One more thing I noticed.

Attachments lacks the link icon on their sheet. Items have them. Would be nice to have them on attachments too.

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Good catch! I found a fix for this, as well as missing links on NPCs and Skills (which I also noticed were missing.) We'll get a build pushed out soon with all these fixes.

NEW RELEASE!
Version 2023-04-18

Unless mentioned, the fix or improvement is for both Genesys and Star Wars.

Fixes:
- Fixed missing links to Attachments
- Fixed Added missing links to NPC, skills and Attachments


How to download the new version:

You can subscribe to both rulesets in FG Forge. This will ensure that they are automatically downloaded whenever I upload a new version.
(P.S.: everytime I upload a new version here in the forums, it may take a few hours for it to show up in Forge, as it requires Moderators to approve)
(P.S.: If you have already done this before, you only need to click "Check for Updates" in FG Unity, and the download will start)

To subscribe and download the rulesets, follow the links:
Genesys: https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/143/view
Star Wars: https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/159/view
(Remember, if you want to use the Star Wars ruleset, make sure to subscribe/download BOTH)


Attention FG Classic users
This update is NOT compatible with FG Classic
I can no longer maintain the code in a way that it works with the old client, I am sorry
You can use an older version of the rulesets, downloading from the google drive link below


Modules and other extensions need to be downloaded from the above link below
https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...R-?usp=sharing

Subscribe/Download the Genesys ruleset even if you are playing Star Wars

Thanks seansps for the contributions on this update!

NEW RELEASE!
Version 2023-04-19

Unless mentioned, the fix or improvement is for both Genesys and Star Wars.

Fixes:
- Players were unable to apply damage or strain, but now can do so by dragging damage or strain to a token (on a map) or entry on the Combat Tracker


Improvements:
- Scrollbars added onto specialization tree's talent summaries for long summaries
- New option to hide/show the damage and strain tokens to players.


How to download the new version:

You can subscribe to both rulesets in FG Forge. This will ensure that they are automatically downloaded whenever I upload a new version.
(P.S.: everytime I upload a new version here in the forums, it may take a few hours for it to show up in Forge, as it requires Moderators to approve)
(P.S.: If you have already done this before, you only need to click "Check for Updates" in FG Unity, and the download will start)

To subscribe and download the rulesets, follow the links:
Genesys: https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/143/view
Star Wars: https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/159/view
(Remember, if you want to use the Star Wars ruleset, make sure to subscribe/download BOTH)


Attention FG Classic users
This update is NOT compatible with FG Classic
I can no longer maintain the code in a way that it works with the old client, I am sorry
You can use an older version of the rulesets, downloading from the google drive link below


Modules and other extensions need to be downloaded from the above link below
https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...R-?usp=sharing

Subscribe/Download the Genesys ruleset even if you are playing Star Wars

Thanks seansps for the contributions on this update!

Suggestion for the Star Wars combat tracker:

It would be nice if we could find a space to track vehicle speed (perhaps between System Strain and AR). I would do it like Hull trauma. Have the max speed from the sheet in a box, with another box for current speed. This is relevant to track, since some maneuvers require a certain speed.

I don't really need a "current speed" box on the vehicle sheet. Just a box on the combat tracker where I can put a number, so I know at a glance what speed the vehicle is at... bonus if that number syncs to all characters.

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Suggestion for the Star Wars combat tracker:

It would be nice if we could find a space to track vehicle speed (perhaps between System Strain and AR). I would do it like Hull trauma. Have the max speed from the sheet in a box, with another box for current speed. This is relevant to track, since some maneuvers require a certain speed.

I don't really need a "current speed" box on the vehicle sheet. Just a box on the combat tracker where I can put a number, so I know at a glance what speed the vehicle is at... bonus if that number syncs to all characters.

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Great suggestion. I'd like take take a deeper look into optimizations/features/enhancements around vehicles once we add some other important features.

I'm currently working on adding the Force to the Star Wars system. It will have full support for Force Power Trees as well as adding the power to the actions tab, rolling the power force die (based on Force Rating), and selecting upgrades for it. Here's a preview! I hope to have this ready by next week :)
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I cannot express how excited I am for those Force tree's!

So... I managed to make the damage counter on player ships go ballistic again.

Here is what I think is happening: I adjusted the damaged taken by using CTRL+Mousewheel. And it seems to me that the incremental changes were shared, but since there were multiple rapid changes, the sharing of the numbers just... broke. I dunno if that makes sense.
It just seemd to me that it kept sharing different numbers, because several different numbers were input in a short time. I hope this makes sense.

A player noted, that if he exited the vehicle. Entered a different vehicle, and switched back, it fixed the issue for him. I didn't test this myself, because FG became extremely laggy at this point and I simply restarted the programme. I think it kept sharing data, and just bogged the system down.

I will keep en eye out, if anything happens if I just type damage in - which I plan to do from now on. I am just so used to using CTRL + Mousewheel that I'll probably break it again - just out of habit. hee hee.

Anyways. I hope this helps. Very excited for what comes next.


Vires Animi

Thanks for the info, I should be able to recreate it with those steps! I’ll take a look at fixing that once we get the Force Trees released :)

Yeah I cannot wait to see the force trees. You have done such great work on this.

I forgot to mention, that in the bug I described above, the ship in question is on a character owned by the GM. Some of my players have issues with reading, so I often manage inventory and stuff. So it is easiest for me to make a character that I own as a GM, keep the party inventory there - including all the vehicles they may have at their disposal.

I don't know if that affects the issue.


Also... I discovered that if you want to put a pin on an image which is a planetary record one of two things happen. If you drag the link from the list, it works fine. If you open a planetary sheet, and drag the link from there to the image, the link does NOT work.

As far as I can see, this behavior only happens for Planetary records.


Vires Animi

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Originally Posted by viresanimi

I forgot to mention, that in the bug I described above, the ship in question is on a character owned by the GM. Some of my players have issues with reading, so I often manage inventory and stuff. So it is easiest for me to make a character that I own as a GM, keep the party inventory there - including all the vehicles they may have at their disposal.

I don't know if that affects the issue.


Also... I discovered that if you want to put a pin on an image which is a planetary record one of two things happen. If you drag the link from the list, it works fine. If you open a planetary sheet, and drag the link from there to the image, the link does NOT work.

As far as I can see, this behavior only happens for Planetary records.


Vires Animi

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Thanks, I will check if I can fix those bugs

NEW RELEASE!
Version 2023-04-25

Unless mentioned, the fix or improvement is for both Genesys and Star Wars.

NEW Features:
Star Wars: Force Powers!

Seansps completed Force Powers and in my opinion it looks fantastic!
- GMs can create Force Powers in the database
- Players can drag and drop Force Powers in their character sheet, and under "Actions" tab, open the full view of the Force Power Tree, and purchase upgrades
Upgrades will show up under the force power listed in the Actions tab.

For more details you can watch this short tutorial:

(Video right now is still rendering 1080p, so if you watch in the next minutes you will only see in 720p)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq3zKHNfXfE

How to download the new version:

You can subscribe to both rulesets in FG Forge. This will ensure that they are automatically downloaded whenever I upload a new version.
(P.S.: everytime I upload a new version here in the forums, it may take a few hours for it to show up in Forge, as it requires Moderators to approve)
(P.S.: If you have already done this before, you only need to click "Check for Updates" in FG Unity, and the download will start)

To subscribe and download the rulesets, follow the links:
Genesys: https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/143/view
Star Wars: https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/159/view
(Remember, if you want to use the Star Wars ruleset, make sure to subscribe/download BOTH)


Attention FG Classic users
This update is NOT compatible with FG Classic
I can no longer maintain the code in a way that it works with the old client, I am sorry
You can use an older version of the rulesets, downloading from the google drive link below


Modules and other extensions need to be downloaded from the above link below
https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...R-?usp=sharing

Subscribe/Download the Genesys ruleset even if you are playing Star Wars

Thanks seansps for the contributions on this update!

Just played around with the new Force trees. There's a space to add the enhanced Skill, so you get the automated dice with the Force dice? Whaaaaat? Bravo, folks.

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Just played around with the new Force trees. There's a space to add the enhanced Skill, so you get the automated dice with the Force dice? Whaaaaat? Bravo, folks.

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Yep!

Glad you’re liking it so far! We’ll be trying to get the modules updated with the trees (minus descriptions) but for now if you’re building them manually, just make sure to set each upgrade that doesn’t technically stack with a unique name. (Ex: “Control: Skills”)

Love the Force tree's, absolutely love them. Now I am busy writing it all in. I am a madman! hee hee

One small thing though: The text inside the tree's can overlap with the scrollbar in a text block (perhaps this is an issue for talent trees too. I dunno). This can make the text a bit hard to read. Would it be possible to make sure that the text box doens't overlap with the scroller?


SUGGESTION: There are ways in the game (Star Wars), that Characteristics and Skills, can get temporary bonuses. Especially with use of the Force. Currently the only way to do that right now (as far as I know) is to change the values of those Characteristics and Skils - and hope you remember to put them back later.

I would have a look at the Savage Worlds ruleset and copy what they have done there. You simply right click an Ability or Skill, press the +- symbol and a small pop-up window allows you to add a modifier to the thing you're changing.

There are two major advantages to this I feel: First of all, the number modified stays the same, but a smaller number next to it shows that it has been modifed and by how much. Simple. Secondly: if this is a characteris / skill you often modify, you only have to go into the pop-up box and activate / deactivate the modier. It will be there waiting for you, the next time you want to do it.

Just my two Imperial Credits worth of thought.


Keep up the amazing work!

Quick thing regarding the star wars ruleset:

Have you looked at the combat tracker recently? The icons are in a skewed line or something. Definately not where they are suppposed to be!

We can revisit the CT and fix it for sure.

And yes- the scrollbar overlap should be an easy fix, for spec trees also!

Bonuses are a great idea— it’s something we could also handle by adding CT effects for those.

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Love the Force tree's, absolutely love them. Now I am busy writing it all in. I am a madman! hee hee

One small thing though: The text inside the tree's can overlap with the scrollbar in a text block (perhaps this is an issue for talent trees too. I dunno). This can make the text a bit hard to read. Would it be possible to make sure that the text box doens't overlap with the scroller?


SUGGESTION: There are ways in the game (Star Wars), that Characteristics and Skills, can get temporary bonuses. Especially with use of the Force. Currently the only way to do that right now (as far as I know) is to change the values of those Characteristics and Skils - and hope you remember to put them back later.

I would have a look at the Savage Worlds ruleset and copy what they have done there. You simply right click an Ability or Skill, press the +- symbol and a small pop-up window allows you to add a modifier to the thing you're changing.

There are two major advantages to this I feel: First of all, the number modified stays the same, but a smaller number next to it shows that it has been modifed and by how much. Simple. Secondly: if this is a characteris / skill you often modify, you only have to go into the pop-up box and activate / deactivate the modier. It will be there waiting for you, the next time you want to do it.

Just my two Imperial Credits worth of thought.


Keep up the amazing work!

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In Star Wars, in the Party sheet there is a way for the GM to add bonuses and penalties to characteristics. This is for the start of session rolls. The bonus/penalty shows up in the pc sheet as a separate number near the characteristic.
This is very bare bones, it does not modify any rolls for now.

In this particular case, we will need to add code to use this modification when adding dice to rolls, but other parts of the code (shortcuts) need to be updated.

Your suggestion to add bonuses and penalties however is a good one, but I need to test, and also talk to sean before we commit to a code change, I want to make something that will work later with future updates.


EDIT: Checked Savage Worlds, I REALLY like how it is implemented there.
We need to do this at the Genesys level, so both rulesets can make use of it, but like i said, we will need to update code in a few places like the drag and drop of dice pools to shortcuts, but that should be easy

Just a quick update on Force Powers:

I am updating the libraries -- adding Force Powers -- until Sevrick is back. I will probably upload a new version of the libraries this weekend.

QUICK UPDATE:

I have fixed the issue with Icons in Combat Tracker not aligning.
Just hit "Check for Updates" in FG Unity and it should download.

I have updated all three Star Wars Libraries with Force Power records:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...R-?usp=sharing

P.S.: For now, the Backup Description feature is not backing up and restoring Force Powers, I will be releasing an update soon

Hi guys,

I got a fix for the scroll bar issue on trees, we'll push that to the next build.

But I also wanted to update everyone on a new tool we have to add descriptive text to your modules. This requires a pre-filled database of XML files from the OggDude Character Creator. For obvious reasons, we can't provide that here, but if you have one already, you can use this python script I wrote to add all the descriptive text (or as much as it can) to your .mod files.

To get the script and more instructions go to the Google Drive link on the main page, then "Tools", then "OGG to FG", or click here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...dt?usp=sharing

Take a look at the text file "HOW TO USE.txt" first for directions.

Some caveats:
- It may not get everything right due to some names being very similar (though it tries to look for exact matches first)
- It might not get all the items/item attachments set if it can't find a match
- You may want to spot check some records

It DOES attempt to:
- Fill in all descriptive text for items, item attachments, careers, species (except species abilities), specializations and talents, force powers and upgrades
- It will also attempt to fill in text for NPCs if you have the right JSON files (see the readme)

NEW RELEASE!
Version 2023-05-01

Unless mentioned, the fix or improvement is for both Genesys and Star Wars.

Fixes:
- Fixes to scrollbars in Specialization Trees and Force Power Trees. (thanks sean!!!!)

Improvements:
- Descriptions Backup: Backup and Restore features can now handle the Force Powers database.
Also, if you have existing PCs/NPCs with Force Powers added, Running the "Backup ALL" followed by "Restore ALL" will restore descriptions to those PCs/NPCs aswel.

Known Issue:

NEW Features:

How to download the new version:

You can subscribe to both rulesets in FG Forge. This will ensure that they are automatically downloaded whenever I upload a new version.
(P.S.: everytime I upload a new version here in the forums, it may take a few hours for it to show up in Forge, as it requires Moderators to approve)
(P.S.: If you have already done this before, you only need to click "Check for Updates" in FG Unity, and the download will start)

To subscribe and download the rulesets, follow the links:
Genesys: https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/143/view
Star Wars: https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/159/view
(Remember, if you want to use the Star Wars ruleset, make sure to subscribe/download BOTH)


Attention FG Classic users
This update is NOT compatible with FG Classic
I can no longer maintain the code in a way that it works with the old client, I am sorry
You can use an older version of the rulesets, downloading from the google drive link below


Modules and other extensions need to be downloaded from the above link below
https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...R-?usp=sharing

Subscribe/Download the Genesys ruleset even if you are playing Star Wars

So, As you may have seen from my previous post, I have updated the Descriptions Backup feature.
Looking and reviewing the code, I think I can improve it, but before doing the change, I wanted to share this and get your feedback

Currently this is how the Backup and Restore of descriptions work:

When restoring descriptions from your backup, the ruleset matches the records in databases by checking the database name (1), record name (2), and Source field (3)

For example, if you have an item (1) with name (2) "Blaster", with Source (3) "Edge of the Empire Core rulebook...." it will search for this combination to restore the description

But we all know that some records exist in multiple libraries: the same blaster can be in the other libraries.


I am thinking of doing some changes to the code so that it works like this:

1) First the restore process will try to match perfectly the database(1), record name(2), and source field(3), and if it finds that record, it will restore it.
2) Second, if restoring a record it does not find that exact match, it will try to match only database(1) and record name(2)

What it means, using the same example above, is that if you added description to a blaster in one of the libraries (so you have it in your backup descriptions now), when restoring if you have more than one library active, it will also restore the same description in records in the others.

The only negative on this that I can think of is that if the two records exist in different sources but their descriptions vary in both and you dont explicitly created the description for them, they will be identical later. You could fix that by editing the description in that record later though.


What do you think?

Sorry I haven't been keeping in contact. Been working crazy hours. I will try to get back to updating the libraries, and let you know then I have an update.

Had some time working with the new force powers. absolutely amazing work to the whole team working on this. So cool. Love the drag and drop capabilities of the powers and the entry windows are great. Making larger bubbles is simple and elegant. Top shelf.

@sevrick I'm done with the core rule book powers. If you need I can send you the work I've done so far too give you a heads start for the libraries. Let me know.

A few suggestions:
1. The screen is huge. Don't know if it's reasonable to be able to shrink it down but it definitely feels very big.
2. Is it convenient/possible to have the full description appear during a scroll over of the power?
3. It doesn't come up often (at least not in the core books), but I believe for heal / harm the trees don't go four levels deep only 3. If course you can leave off connecting the final level route to anything but it would look less cluttered is when there was no connection to a power section it could be hidden when the screen was locked.

No idea how easy or hard any of this is to code just adding suggestions. To notch work Johniba and Team!

Are Specialization trees next? If I'm not mistaken it's the last feature that has yet to be implemented.

On topic related to the work being done here (and I've no idea if it's appropriate to discuss here or if it needs a new threat it a discord server) but how does everyone handle the Exp crunch force sensitives have in your games. While the trees are a neet way of handling the Force, it adds an even greater burden on already characters already exp poor. In all of my attempts to make great force users I've never been able to do it for any less than 700 points and the Jedi masters of the films could easily be built to have over 1500 Exp.

I've thought of doubling exp awards for the force users where half can be spent on character advancement and the other half force powers but this seems simultaneously unfair to the other players and still not quite enough growth for the force users..

Would like to hear everyone thoughts on this wherever the moderators suggest would be an appropriate place to hold that conversation.

Hey Xarax, I actually updated all 3 libraries with all powers from (SW except for two from adventure books)

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Had some time working with the new force powers. absolutely amazing work to the whole team working on this. So cool. Love the drag and drop capabilities of the powers and the entry windows are great. Making larger bubbles is simple and elegant. Top shelf.

@sevrick I'm done with the core rule book powers. If you need I can send you the work I've done so far too give you a heads start for the libraries. Let me know.

A few suggestions:
1. The screen is huge. Don't know if it's reasonable to be able to shrink it down but it definitely feels very big.
2. Is it convenient/possible to have the full description appear during a scroll over of the power?
3. It doesn't come up often (at least not in the core books), but I believe for heal / harm the trees don't go four levels deep only 3. If course you can leave off connecting the final level route to anything but it would look less cluttered is when there was no connection to a power section it could be hidden when the screen was locked.

No idea how easy or hard any of this is to code just adding suggestions. To notch work Johniba and Team!

Are Specialization trees next? If I'm not mistaken it's the last feature that has yet to be implemented.

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1 - Recently seansps added scrolling to each box, so I will do some testing with making the boxes smaller

2 - I dont know if I understand. It will depend on how much text. Even with a scroll, if it is too much text it could become cumbersome. Maybe test this by adding the full description to your summary field and see how it looks, maybe wait until I make the boxes smaller and see.

3 - I added a way to hide boxes... please download the latest libraries, you will see I already added all force power trees including that one, you will see the extra empty boxes do not show up.
While editing a force power record, notice that boxes have a very faint "eye" icon to the left side of the delete button. Clicking that hides/shows the box.
When you turn edit off, the box gets hidden, so the tip is to hide any boxes the tree does not need, and hide connectors, when you have the record in read only mode, the boxes and connectors will be gone.
Like I said I have already added all force power records to all 3 libraries, you can check what I did there.

I would also say try to use that library instead of creating your own power records, since the backup/restore descriptions will work better to match with those, in future library upgrades.


And yes now working on elite specializations! The idea is focusing on having full scope of data in the rulesets, and then move into improvements

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On topic related to the work being done here (and I've no idea if it's appropriate to discuss here or if it needs a new threat it a discord server) but how does everyone handle the Exp crunch force sensitives have in your games. While the trees are a neet way of handling the Force, it adds an even greater burden on already characters already exp poor. In all of my attempts to make great force users I've never been able to do it for any less than 700 points and the Jedi masters of the films could easily be built to have over 1500 Exp.

I've thought of doubling exp awards for the force users where half can be spent on character advancement and the other half force powers but this seems simultaneously unfair to the other players and still not quite enough growth for the force users..

Would like to hear everyone thoughts on this wherever the moderators suggest would be an appropriate place to hold that conversation.

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To be honest I wouldn't change it at all. The force power extra exp cost for force sensitive is part of the balance. This actually quite brilliant game design. Older editions of star wars had constant issues with the Jedi being to overpowered. Have the force sensitives go through xp tax, so to speak, helps keep them on the same power level as non force using PCs.

Think about the force abilities they can pop off a force ability anytime they want. Most of the time it is without a strain cost. And if they decide to not care about using dark side points it works 100% of the time provided they have the Destiny Points to do it.

At higher levels the force user still manages to be slightly more powerful than non force users. At starting levels it can be frustrating to be sure, but that in of it self simulates the character who is just learning about his powers. Think how long it took Luke to pull his lightsaber from the snow while hanging upside down. I am sure if it was even a padawan from the clone wars ear he wouldn't break a sweat. Personally I love the way it feels, but to each his own. Just be careful. The exp cost for force powers are there for balance, and is there for a reason.

@johniba 2. Sorry I meant like the full description appears when you mouse over the box. Not sure if it's a good idea or if it would get annoying. Just spitfiring.

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@johniba 2. Sorry I meant like the full description appears when you mouse over the box. Not sure if it's a good idea or if it would get annoying. Just spitfiring.

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Yes, I think that could get annoying. The idea with the full description and the summary is that a player would only need to see the full description a few times, maybe when learning their powers. Over time, they only read the summary in the boxes to remember what they are.

We can always try later to improve on this for sure. We can revisit this or other ideas later when we are done with a few more features.


I will try to make the boxes smaller though, so avoid needing to open a very large window

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I will try to make the boxes smaller though, so avoid needing to open a very large window

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Low Priority Johniba! thanks for all you are doing with this!

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3 - I added a way to hide boxes... please download the latest libraries, you will see I already added all force power trees including that one, you will see the extra empty boxes do not show up.
While editing a force power record, notice that boxes have a very faint "eye" icon to the left side of the delete button. Clicking that hides/shows the box.
When you turn edit off, the box gets hidden, so the tip is to hide any boxes the tree does not need, and hide connectors, when you have the record in read only mode, the boxes and connectors will be gone.
Like I said I have already added all force power records to all 3 libraries, you can check what I did there.

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Must be doing something wrong. I've activated the added module, and made sure to download the most up to date versions. I see no faint eyes and there are no listings of force powers other than the ones that I have created myself. Is there a separate subscription?

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Must be doing something wrong. I've activated the added module, and made sure to download the most up to date versions. I see no faint eyes and there are no listings of force powers other than the ones that I have created myself. Is there a separate subscription?

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The eye icon is in the ruleset, so first make sure you hit the "check updates" in FGU so it can download the latest rulesets.

To see that eye icon:
- open a force power record in the database
- click the padlock icon to unlock the record
This will make it so boxes will show the +/- button, and also the eye icon (which is in a very faint color, you can almost miss it) to the left of those buttons

The issue with the libraries:

Make sure you have the latest versions, I have uploaded them on april 28:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...7t?usp=sharing

Try to open your campaign after you download, go to modules:

- Try first unloading all libraries, and checking if you see any force powers.
If you do, those are records you added locally
- Now, try re-activating the lilbraries, see if you can see more records, that belong to the libraries.

There might be a chance that you have two sets of files for the libraries in your modules folder in FGU directory, you can see if that is true using windows explorer

If you still have issues, let me know when you have like some 30 mins of free time, we can get together on discord and I will help you!

I had the same problem as Xarax. Seemed the libraries didn't download from the Forge via standard FGU update. But when I did a manual download from Google to my Modules folder, everything was right as rain. Maybe it's just a May the Fourth success?