Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 3rd Edition Ruleset

Hi Neil,

First of all, it s a great ruleset you are putting on ! I really love all the possibilities it offers me ! Thank You !

I have a couple of questions in mind I would like to ask.

First one is : Can I start making my own adventure module with your v0.8 WRFP 3ed Ruleset and not losing my work when you will release the 1.0 ?

Second : If No, Is there a way to start making my adventure module and being sure to not lose my work when there is Upgrade of your Ruleset ?

Third : I didnt find the Tracker System in your Ruleset. May be you are implementing this for the 1.0 release ? Or do You want us to use The NPC Group for a tweaking Tracking System ? Or do It 'live' the the WFRP stuff for the moment ?

Thats it for the questions.

Now little suggestions for the ruleset if I may ;)

First I think you miss the Location Cards which is like a supplement to an Encouter Map obviously.

Second You should make a Universal "RECHARGE TOKEN" so that we can drag/drop this token on any type of On Screen (i.e. Open) Cards (i.e. Conditions, Mutations or anything that can have Recharge Tokens). May be the Metal Token is the purpose of it ?

Third I think you are missing this Recharge Token possibilities on Conditions, Diseases, Insanity Temporary Cards. Or else I didnt figure how to use them completly ^^


Well sending you a lot of love !

Thank You !

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Originally Posted by Ummaner

First of all, it s a great ruleset you are putting on ! I really love all the possibilities it offers me ! Thank You !

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Thanks :)

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Originally Posted by Ummaner

First one is : Can I start making my own adventure module with your v0.8 WRFP 3ed Ruleset and not losing my work when you will release the 1.0 ?

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Yes. The only changes that are being made between v0.8 and v1.0 are:

* General bug fixes
* Added Location Cards to the ruleset
* Removed the Magic tab from items - this is in preparation for the Rune rules from Black Fire Pass (v1.1)

So as long as you avoid entering Magic Items into the ruleset, your modules should continue to work.

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Originally Posted by Ummaner

Third : I didnt find the Tracker System in your Ruleset. May be you are implementing this for the 1.0 release ? Or do You want us to use The NPC Group for a tweaking Tracking System ? Or do It 'live' the the WFRP stuff for the moment ?

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It is in v0.8 - It is the small crossed swords icon on the sidebar. Drag and drop characters, npcs, npc groups or the party sheet to add actors to the initiative tracker.

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Originally Posted by Ummaner

First I think you miss the Location Cards which is like a supplement to an Encouter Map obviously.

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See above

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Originally Posted by Ummaner

Second You should make a Universal "RECHARGE TOKEN" so that we can drag/drop this token on any type of On Screen (i.e. Open) Cards (i.e. Conditions, Mutations or anything that can have Recharge Tokens). May be the Metal Token is the purpose of it ?

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Good idea! The metal token on the desktop is for fortune. I like the idea of being able to drag recharge to a card so will look at this in v1.1

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Originally Posted by Ummaner

Third I think you are missing this Recharge Token possibilities on Conditions, Diseases, Insanity Temporary Cards. Or else I didnt figure how to use them completly ^^

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I didn't think that Conditions, Diseases & Insanities have recharge? I will double check the rules and if they do, I will add them for v1.1

Hi Neil,

Thank for the quick answers.

I guess you are tired of working the ruleset cause you misread two thinks in my thread.

My third question was the Progress Tracker System (Tome of Adventure page 24 - GM Toolkit page 19).

You know like in An Eye for an Eye when you have to track the investigation advancements of the players and the ennemy. And at certain point it triggers events.

We can use a tweaked NPC Group meanwhile or the GM can put one tracker IRL in the meantime. That s not a BIG Issue. :D


My second suggestion was not about the SILVER token (the one on the GM screen) which is obviously what you use for a fortune universal token but the Metal Token found in the Token Bag (and may be putting it on the GM screen too for usefulness).


Concerning 'Recharge tokens' (sorry for the name it may have confused you) on Conditions, Deseases & Temporary Insanities, it s on the Player Guide. I call them 'Recharge' Token cause they are Token that come and goes. Let me explain.


Here is summerized rules :


* Conditions (page 93 Player Guide) : Generally the BRIEF Conditions get two 'Recharge' tokens (when put on) but that can be more by Cards effects or a GM decision. The 'Recharge' Token is removed at the end of the Player Turn having a Condition Card. (just like a Recharge Token) When the last 'Recharge' Token disappear the Condition Card return to the stock.

The other two Condition Types (i.e. Dependent and Lingering) are more GM Control Conditions so no need for a 'Recharge' Token.



* Insanities (page 91 Player Guide) : Two ways to get one.

** 'Willpower' Insanities :

If the Player have a number of Stress greater than his Willpower ; Whenever he get more Stress he pick the first Insanity Card. If the Traits match the situation he is in; he attach the Insanity to his Character.

BUT the Player can NEVER gain more than ONE 'Willpower' Insanity by Encounter - If the Player already had One 'Willpower' Insanty then he simply add One 'Recharge' Token to the One already acquired.

(What the purpose of the 'Recharge' Token ? See below)


** 'STRAINED' Insanities :

When the Player is STRAINED (i.e. (Stress > Any Mental Characteristic) && (Fatigue > Any Physical Characteristic)) ; Whenever the player get any number of stress and/or fatigue Tokens ; he picks up the FIRST Insanity Card (regardless of the Traits and EVEN if he already gained a Temporary Insanity Card) and attach it to his Character.

Then he place a number of 'Recharge' Token egal to the sum of the fatigue + stress he gains.


(Here is the final use of this 'Recharge Token')

** Permanent Insanity :

At the end of an ACT, the player make a Simple(0d) Willpower for each Temporary Sanity Cards he gains to see if the Sanity disappear or not.

If he fail to generate a number of successes egal to the number of 'Recharge Tokens' then the Insanity is permanent.


** Desease : It s my mistake. There are none. Sorry.


By the way, when you say : I ll integrate that in the Ruleset v1.1, does it mean you already send the version 1.0 somewhere ? :D


Good luck for the finish line !

Sorry, my misunderstanding!

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Originally Posted by Ummaner

We can use a tweaked NPC Group meanwhile or the GM can put one tracker IRL in the meantime. That s not a BIG Issue. :D

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For progress trackers I have used an image and use the tokens in the token box to indicate progress. I can share the image with the players so that they can also see progress. This works really well, especially with some of the 'special' progress trackers like in the Gathering Storm.

I do not have any plans at the moment to add progress trackers to the ruleset as they can be configured in so many different ways that it would make it difficult for a GM to setup.

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Originally Posted by Ummaner

My second suggestion was not about the SILVER token (the one on the GM screen) which is obviously what you use for a fortune universal token but the Metal Token found in the Token Bag (and may be putting it on the GM screen too for usefulness).

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I will look into putting an additional token on the desktop. The desktop tokens are 'special' because players do not always see the tokens in the token bag (there is a bug in the current version of FG)

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Originally Posted by Ummaner

Concerning 'Recharge tokens' (sorry for the name it may have confused you) on Conditions, Deseases & Temporary Insanities, it s on the Player Guide. I call them 'Recharge' Token cause they are Token that come and goes. Let me explain...

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Understood. I will look into it.

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Originally Posted by Ummaner

By the way, when you say : I ll integrate that in the Ruleset v1.1, does it mean you already send the version 1.0 somewhere ? :D

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No, I expect to release v1.0 in the next week or so.

I will be continuing development of the ruleset with v1.1 focused on adding the new rules that have added with the release of Black Fire Pass. I have already started making a list of the new features to add

Thanks for all the feedback!

Hi Neil,

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Originally Posted by neilgfoster

Sorry, my misunderstanding!

For progress trackers I have used an image and use the tokens in the token box to indicate progress. I can share the image with the players so that they can also see progress. This works really well, especially with some of the 'special' progress trackers like in the Gathering Storm.

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What a simple and great idea : You scan it ! Shame I didn't think of it ;)

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Originally Posted by neilgfoster

I do not have any plans at the moment to add progress trackers to the ruleset as they can be configured in so many different ways that it would make it difficult for a GM to setup.

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Well in fact you already solve that issue !

1 - We can just proceed as your original Idea : Scan it !
2 - Make our own Progres Tracker with the component of WFRP
3 - Then we can scan it as an image !

Et voilà ...

As a GM, I will know before playing what type of Progress Tracker I will need for my module, I can easily prepare them !

Wonderful Idea you gave us !!

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Originally Posted by neilgfoster

Thanks for all the feedback!

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This is normal to give when we receive nah ? ;)

Hi Neil,

I don't know if it s a bug or if I am doing something wrong but I cant create a module contening Story Entries.

With NPC, Items it works just fine but with Story it's empty...

I /export ; type the Module Name/Module Files/My Names and check the 3 Story/Items/NPC and export succesfully.

But when I open up the module with my main campaign, the Story Folder is Empty ... The Items and the NPC are Okay ... But not the Story ...

Don't have a clue why ... ?

By the way, I can do it if I create a 4E campaign and then a module ... strange isn t it ? :D

Ive looked into that, and its a bug - a small typo error on my part. I will fix that ready for the next release.

Neil,

Are there xml tags or special characters to represent dice and dice results in tags with type="formattedtext" in the library? For example, is there a way to display a success icon in the effects portion of an action?

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Originally Posted by Zasuul

Are there xml tags or special characters to represent dice and dice results in tags with type="formattedtext" in the library? For example, is there a way to display a success icon in the effects portion of an action?

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Not at the moment. On my list of things-to-do is to create a custom font for the ruleset which includes the dice symbols.

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Originally Posted by neilgfoster

Not at the moment. On my list of things-to-do is to create a custom font for the ruleset which includes the dice symbols.

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I took a look at the ruleset modification documentation last night, and unfortunately it doesn't look like there is a good way to mix text and bitmaps. The font idea is a good one though.

If I were to start cutting and pasting text from the Player's Guide PDF into the library, do you have any suggestions as to what to use as placeholders for the various symbols? I suppose anything unique could work work with a find and replace later?