Earthdawn v128 uploaded to the FGWiki

3rd edition only seems to go to 40. I haven't found any charts that go above that. I only have the 4 core books though. Speaking of, I think I need to get a list together of what needs to be done to update the 2nd edition ruleset to the 3rd. I know the talents/skills need to have the actions changed. It's no longer a simple yes/no. There are free, simple, standard and sustained actions. The karma system is a bit different now too. The die rolled is always a d6 until you're warden or higher then it becomes a d8. Race does play a part in your maximum number of karma though. I'm sure there is at least a few more and I'll take some time to get a list together. Until then, I'll send you the updated steps and the chat handler for the rolls.

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Originally Posted by OneSidedDie

3rd edition only seems to go to 40. I haven't found any charts that go above that. I only have the 4 core books though. Speaking of, I think I need to get a list together of what needs to be done to update the 2nd edition ruleset to the 3rd. I know the talents/skills need to have the actions changed. It's no longer a simple yes/no. There are free, simple, standard and sustained actions. The karma system is a bit different now too. The die rolled is always a d6 until you're warden or higher then it becomes a d8. Race does play a part in your maximum number of karma though. I'm sure there is at least a few more and I'll take some time to get a list together. Until then, I'll send you the updated steps and the chat handler for the rolls.

Edit: I'll just attach them here.

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Thanks for that. You are right about the steps above 40 not being listed. I was going to use the dice roller at the Earthdawn Compendium to compile my own list and update those steps.

I don't worry too much about the action type as far as automation goes, i find it easier just to rule that in play. And you can already change the Karma step on the front page as necessary.

I have just realised where one of my problems might be. I am using the 2E PAK version rather than the 137 version. The files above just caused that to crash, and i think i used the 137 file but put it in the 2E PAK etc etc

I might just stick with the 2E steps because when i tried changing even the steps 1, 2 and 3 of the 2E lua, it also gave error codes.

And i can't change to the 137 version as all of the images, maps, characters etc are in the 2E campaign!

There may be something else going on then. If you're using the pak version from the wiki then it should still work as it is simply version 136. I just downloaded the pak version and updated it with the two files i sent you and it seems to work fine. Are you putting those two files in a separate folder or are you opening the pak and then overwriting the old scripts? Are you getting the "Script Error: [String "scripts/step_action_lookup.lua"]: 1 '=' expected near '>>'" error when you use my updated tables?

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There may be something else going on then. If you're using the pak version from the wiki then it should still work as it is simply version 136. I just downloaded the pak version and updated it with the two files i sent you and it seems to work fine. Are you putting those two files in a separate folder or are you opening the pak and then overwriting the old scripts? Are you getting the "Script Error: [String "scripts/step_action_lookup.lua"]: 1 '=' expected near '>>'" error when you use my updated tables?

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I am overwriting the files in the PAK and get (attached screenshot)

All very strange

I'm not sure what's going on then. You can just try to restore the original file and maybe just use the updated step action table. It's only data really so shouldn't have any affect on your other stuff.

Oh, and I'd make a backup of your campaign somewhere just to be on the safe side. :)

Edit: I thought of something else. It could be something in your campaign. Try to load a fresh test campaign and see if you run into the same problem. If so you may be stuck with the old step system unless you want to transfer all of your stuff into a new campaign.

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Originally Posted by OneSidedDie

I'm not sure what's going on then. You can just try to restore the original file and maybe just use the updated step action table. It's only data really so shouldn't have any affect on your other stuff.

Oh, and I'd make a backup of your campaign somewhere just to be on the safe side. :)

Edit: I thought of something else. It could be something in your campaign. Try to load a fresh test campaign and see if you run into the same problem. If so you may be stuck with the old step system unless you want to transfer all of your stuff into a new campaign.

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Fixed it! It was being being a newbie at this. I was just adding the new file using winzip, but as soon as i tried using the PAK creation utility to package the new files, it worked perfectly!

Great! Let me know if there is anything else you need. I've only changed a few things, such as the aforementioned hex map fix. I've also changed the text type from string to formatted text for both versions of the talent templates so I only have to have one description in my modules instead of both a string and a formatted text.

So i ran a 16 hour ED3 game over FG last weekend, and the ruleset was superb! The new dice steps are much better as you no longer have the extremes of D4 and D20.

One option we did use from ED3 that is not supported at present is the minimum damage rule. If you score a good result, you will do at least your step damage. However, you cannot then "create" a result in the chat window to drag to the relevant armour/damage place on the combat tracker, instead having to do th emental calculation. In addition, the damage applied does not appear in the chat window.

Does anyone know a way of producing a specified dice result in the chat window?

You should be able to type a number in the modifier box and then drag it into the chat window. From there you can move it over to one of the armors or straight to the damage box to have it apply damage.

Anyway, a 16 hour game? That sounds awesome! I'd love to hear any other input you have since I still have yet to actually run a game in FG2 for Earthdawn. I'm just finally in a place in my life I can relax and devote myself to gaming again.