Special Announcement - Kickstarter

Might be a little greedy of me to ask that but I'll continue to throw money hand over fist if we can make these things happen. Lol.

I don't think SmiteWorks is going to respond with any new information until FG Fridays this Friday. Everything we "know" is in teh FGU FAQ; https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...unds-Unity-FAQ

I think anything else is speculation until Friday :)

Over 18k thread views in less than 3 days. I am looking forward to this!!

Any chance Unity will support

1) Multiple GMs? (two people logging in with GM rights)
2) ability to rotate GM among players? My understanding now is that if my buddy wants to GM, he has to either use my computer to do so, or purchase all of the content a second time to use on his own license. It would be nice to be able to trade off GM responsibilities to a limited number of people once in a while without having to buy all of the books again to do so legally.

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Originally Posted by xAxTragicxEndx

First of all, congratulations on all the hard work put in by the SW team to make this happen. Can't wait to back the KS.

I just had one quick question. You said Unity can compile for tables and phones..... I know there is no intention of making a mobile version (at this time) but my question is does these mean we may be able to open this on a mobile device to access modules when on the go. Or maybe when playing IRL... Kinda like a different service...

**cough cough** D&D Beyond **cough cough**

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Full FG functionality on mobile would be a real stretch (pun intended). But having something like "character management" from mobile would be quite amazing because players who are on the move could still at least look up their character sheet while connected to discord via mobile and participate in the game a bit better than they could before.

Full FG mobile functionality is probably a pipe-dream. BUT, if you could have a player connect via a "mobile portal" and they could access only very specific things, like shared images (maps) and their character sheet, that would literally be enough for remote play. Maybe they couldn't do the rolling themselves or more their tokens, etc. But they could tell the DM what they wanted to do, and they could see the map. That would be excellent.

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Originally Posted by stewartl42

Any chance Unity will support

1) Multiple GMs? (two people logging in with GM rights)
2) ability to rotate GM among players? My understanding now is that if my buddy wants to GM, he has to either use my computer to do so, or purchase all of the content a second time to use on his own license. It would be nice to be able to trade off GM responsibilities to a limited number of people once in a while without having to buy all of the books again to do so legally.

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1) That would be cool. Isn't there an extension that does some of that already though?
2) It would be nice that if Player A owns Book 2, Book 3, Book 4, and Player B owns Book 1, everyone connected to the table of Player C who owns the Ultimate License to the group has access to Books 1-4. I doubt they'll ever do "shared licenses", but fully shared Modules/Books would be cool and something I think they could do.

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Originally Posted by Tyrannosaurus VeX

2) It would be nice that if Player A owns Book 2, Book 3, Book 4, and Player B owns Book 1, everyone connected to the table of Player C who owns the Ultimate License to the group has access to Books 1-4. I doubt they'll ever do "shared licenses", but fully shared Modules/Books would be cool and something I think they could do.

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See, I know my players would buy ultimate licenses to do this, if it were an option. Right now, the burden of re-purchasing content, most of which was also purchased as a hard copy book to begin with, makes this untenable.

Stew

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The biggest thing I need from FGUnity is MULTI MONITOR SUPPORT. This should be out of the box. We need screen real estate for all the information we use and it would make our lives infinitely easier.

Next wish based on multimonitor, would be the ability to run a map client that the GM can control. I like to use FG as my game map on my tv for my players to interact with but it gets cumbersome to control it.

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Originally Posted by ssj4megaman

WISHLIST:
The biggest thing I need from FGUnity is MULTI MONITOR SUPPORT. This should be out of the box. We need screen real estate for all the information we use and it would make our lives infinitely easier.

Next wish based on multimonitor, would be the ability to run a map client that the GM can control. I like to use FG as my game map on my tv for my players to interact with but it gets cumbersome to control it.

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Yes. Multi-monitor support with some customization settings so that you can get it working just right for monitors of multiple sizes/resolutions/orientations, etc.

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Originally Posted by xAxTragicxEndx

First of all, congratulations on all the hard work put in by the SW team to make this happen. Can't wait to back the KS.

I just had one quick question. You said Unity can compile for tables and phones..... I know there is no intention of making a mobile version (at this time) but my question is does these mean we may be able to open this on a mobile device to access modules when on the go. Or maybe when playing IRL... Kinda like a different service...

**cough cough** D&D Beyond **cough cough**

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This, I own everything physically, everything on FG and the legendary bundle on D&D beyond.

But I end up doing most of my reading / prep work on a certain tools website because fans put together a better digital resource than people who were paid to (directed at curse and D&D beyond, not fg... btw character gen is faster on fg as well).

Having FG reference documents or story links and the like available on my tablet would be awesome. Especially in play.
(I like to get up and move around if I am restless)

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Originally Posted by KervyN

This is exactly my impression and why I've stuck to FG instead of switching to R20.

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Ditto

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Originally Posted by ddavison

Clearly I can not drink the cup in front of me!
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/5c/c2/cf/5...e-so-funny.jpg

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DOUG WINS!

(Did I ever mention I got married in. 100+ invited wedding all in “Medieval” “Renaissance” costume? We had musicians and entertainers from NY’s RenFair - food and music were (wide ranging) period acceptable. However, our wedding song? The one very modern song: “Storybook Love” from The Princess Bride)

PS, I recommend everyone who is a fan LISTEN TO not read, Cary Elwes’ book “As You Wish”, you will thank me. He goes to 11 in that reading!

Gonna edit this when home to add our wedding picture :)

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Originally Posted by LordEntrails

Not in the US. Most of the world does "Day - Month - Year", but the standard in the US is "Month - Day - Year"

It why I prefer "1 May 19" (dd-MON-yy)

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I prefer, 2019-05-01 myself. But I am a software engineer and think about the inherent bennies to using that. (or...I GUESS... 2019-May-01 ... but I prefer numbers! Why give up free side benefits!)

*bated breath*

I’d LOVE a way to use a large tablet to lay on table and be the map without using appstore scone screen type apps. So a nice other project might be a way for a simple tablet client to connect to running host to solely display maps and I guess graphics can me free. But this would be so cool, imo. Seems like if they can in future make it run crammed on a tablet hey may be better off rethinking how a tablet can enhance existing pcs first as a starting step?

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Originally Posted by xAxTragicxEndx

First of all, congratulations on all the hard work put in by the SW team to make this happen. Can't wait to back the KS.

I just had one quick question. You said Unity can compile for tables and phones..... I know there is no intention of making a mobile version (at this time) but my question is does these mean we may be able to open this on a mobile device to access modules when on the go. Or maybe when playing IRL... Kinda like a different service...

**cough cough** D&D Beyond **cough cough**

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dammit I meant to work on my ruleset coding on my commut home and now like 10 mins away and didn’t even pull out m6 laptop cos read the mail 30 mins ago about the kickstarter!

This is the best news I ever heard then rolling a natural 20!! Count me in on the support!! GO FANTASY GROUNDS!!! Woooooo!!!

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Originally Posted by Ckorik

... and should be fully backwards compatible.

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So does this mean XML mod work will transfer over? Custom PHBs created from parsing for example?

Yes, they have been trying hard not to break the 1200+ DLC they have in the store, and all the community created content that is available.

That's all I needed, thanks!

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Originally Posted by lochost

Sorry, my mother tongue is not english, I should have said "may be outdated"

Few examples :

Developer Guide - Modules - Overview 30 July 2017
Campaign and Module Data File Overview 1 August 2017
Developer Guide - Extensions - Overview 2 August 2017
Developer Guide - Rulesets - Database 1 August 2017

If it's not outdated, you should perhaps specify it on the related pages. As many software updates occurred, it's not obvious that the doc is still up to date regarding the changes.

I may be (and probably am) wrong, if so, please accept all my apologizes.

Note : I'm not asking for an update of the docs for the actual version, but a pretty well one for FGU.

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For the most part these are all still accurate.
The system is still layered.
The new system will still be layered.
I think that the content in those guides - despite being written some time ago - is still very much valid.

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Originally Posted by sturtus

no Cloud sync must be an obstacle for a lot of users. Opening a firewall port is simply not an option in many situations. In 2019 there are many technologies that could make this simple, GraphQL and NoSQL and Firebase to name a few. If it's not in initial release, should be low hanging stretch goal.

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I doubt they want to change the database structure.
Adding some type of local database engine would have many advantages but would likely be a major support pita.
Im pretty sure at this stage Cloud is just a brokered connection method that bypasses the need for port forwarding...
I could be wrong...

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Originally Posted by LordEntrails

Yes, the time is listed as 9am PDT, which is noon EDT.


Not announced, but if you look at the image of the launch screen, there is a radio button for "Cloud" So I assume their is the ability to have your campaign hosted on FG servers with FGU.

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Im pretty sure this will just be a brokered connection to bypass por forwarding - I dont believe that your data will be stored in the cloud - but we will find out soon enough (well prolly not soon enough for everyone but soonish anyway!).

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Originally Posted by stewartl42

Any chance Unity will support

1) Multiple GMs? (two people logging in with GM rights)
2) ability to rotate GM among players? My understanding now is that if my buddy wants to GM, he has to either use my computer to do so, or purchase all of the content a second time to use on his own license. It would be nice to be able to trade off GM responsibilities to a limited number of people once in a while without having to buy all of the books again to do so legally.

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1) The current design doesnt really lend itself to this and I havent seen anything from the devs suggesting that multiple GMs is near the top of their todo list...
2) This has license implications for their content partners... Im not sure we will ever see that...

You should make sure you vote for both on the wish list though

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Originally Posted by ssj4megaman

WISHLIST:
The biggest thing I need from FGUnity is MULTI MONITOR SUPPORT. This should be out of the box. We need screen real estate for all the information we use and it would make our lives infinitely easier.

Next wish based on multimonitor, would be the ability to run a map client that the GM can control. I like to use FG as my game map on my tv for my players to interact with but it gets cumbersome to control it.

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Originally Posted by Tyrannosaurus VeX

Yes. Multi-monitor support with some customization settings so that you can get it working just right for monitors of multiple sizes/resolutions/orientations, etc.

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This one Im pretty sure is not happening. The libraries for Unity multi monitor support are not reliable enough across SWs targeted platforms.

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Originally Posted by damned

You should make sure you vote for both on the wish list though

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Where would one do this?

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Originally Posted by stewartl42

Where would one do this?

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https://fg2app.idea.informer.com/

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Originally Posted by damned

This one Im pretty sure is not happening. The libraries for Unity multi monitor support are not reliable enough across SWs targeted platforms.

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Originally Posted by Ampersandrew

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I know the feeling, FG needs better screen management than just "buy a big 4k+ screen", I couldn't imagine using it on a 1080p screen, 1440p is just enough for DMing imo.

Any chance for PC data being available for players on mobile (iOS and Android)?

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Originally Posted by damned

This one Im pretty sure is not happening. The libraries for Unity multi monitor support are not reliable enough across SWs targeted platforms.

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I keep seeing this - mostly because 'map/tokens/combat tracker' interaction. That's fine - keep them modal - let us open story entries or images in windows that can undock - make it a special menu option and 'floating' windows can't interact with the main info - that'd be ok too - just having that capability would allow me to manage my information and if I needed to interact with the info I could close and reopen in the 'captive' FG window.

I mean I'm not saying that even this is 100% possible but if you stop thinking *everything has to interact* it opens more possibilities

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Originally Posted by Ckorik

I keep seeing this - mostly because 'map/tokens/combat tracker' interaction. That's fine - keep them modal - let us open story entries or images in windows that can undock - make it a special menu option and 'floating' windows can't interact with the main info - that'd be ok too - just having that capability would allow me to manage my information and if I needed to interact with the info I could close and reopen in the 'captive' FG window.

I mean I'm not saying that even this is 100% possible but if you stop thinking *everything has to interact* it opens more possibilities

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I dont think any of that has been mentioned.
The unity library support for multi monitors is not solid enough cross platform.
They dont want to support multiple versions of the app with different features for different platforms.

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Originally Posted by lostsanityreturned

I know the feeling, FG needs better screen management than just "buy a big 4k+ screen", I couldn't imagine using it on a 1080p screen, 1440p is just enough for DMing imo.

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I've never seen a problem with multiple monitors, myself. I have two monitors, of different native resolutions. See the link. Works well enough for me.

https://gfycat.com/ActiveImmenseBuffalo

You mean everyone isn't using this? :)

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Originally Posted by stewartl42

I've never seen a problem with multiple monitors, myself. I have two monitors, of different native resolutions. See the link. Works well enough for me.

https://gfycat.com/ActiveImmenseBuffalo

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The issue is more that the sidebar ends up all the way over on the right rather than on each screen. It makes navigation slow and clunky with high resolution monitors

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Originally Posted by Nylanfs

You mean everyone isn't using this? :)

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Nah, too clunky. I prefer my setup which is similar except done with just three megascreens in same configuration.

OK ... not really ... sniff

However, I’d seriously prefer two stacked 38” Ultrasharps than even 4 27”s ANY time. At home I have a pair of Dell 27” Ultrashrps and my work 38ultrasharp blows it away in immersiveness/utility (for me)

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Originally Posted by damned

I dont think any of that has been mentioned.
The unity library support for multi monitors is not solid enough cross platform.
They dont want to support multiple versions of the app with different features for different platforms.

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Actually it has been stated that the reason everything is 'bound' into the main window is due to token/combat tracker interaction and deep legacy code that would need to be re-written to handle (well ... the windows handles really). This is the same reason (IIRC) that we can't have tabs.

+1 tabs

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Originally Posted by Tyrannosaurus VeX

Full FG functionality on mobile would be a real stretch (pun intended). But having something like "character management" from mobile would be quite amazing because players who are on the move could still at least look up their character sheet while connected to discord via mobile and participate in the game a bit better than they could before.

Full FG mobile functionality is probably a pipe-dream. BUT, if you could have a player connect via a "mobile portal" and they could access only very specific things, like shared images (maps) and their character sheet, that would literally be enough for remote play. Maybe they couldn't do the rolling themselves or more their tokens, etc. But they could tell the DM what they wanted to do, and they could see the map. That would be excellent.

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Originally Posted by lostsanityreturned

This, I own everything physically, everything on FG and the legendary bundle on D&D beyond.

But I end up doing most of my reading / prep work on a certain tools website because fans put together a better digital resource than people who were paid to (directed at curse and D&D beyond, not fg... btw character gen is faster on fg as well).

Having FG reference documents or story links and the like available on my tablet would be awesome. Especially in play.
(I like to get up and move around if I am restless)

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Yeah. That's what I meant by similar to another service. I'm not looking for a full blown mobile version (would be amazing but not enough real estate on a phone for FG) but it would be great to be able to access the modules as a reference manual. Open the PHB when I'm sitting at a table IRL complete with search feature. Create a new PC using XGE from my phone. Bust out the Ipad and be able to read through the Rise of Tiamat while out and about before going home to run it for players.

All of the modules already have a reference manual built into the library that opens up a searchable version of the book that is pretty much scans of the real thing. Like @lostsanityreturned mentioned, an app to do the same thing would be amazing especially since there are many people who just refuse to continue to purchase the same thing 3 times (Physical, FG and D&DB). I own most of the books IRL, complete bundle through FG and refuse to buy the mobile versions. Besides, as was mentioned. D&DB is really clunky. Definitely not my first choice for PC creation. Any time I'm building a pc it's FG and would be great to have this at my fingertips when I'm bored at work.

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Originally Posted by ssj4megaman

WISHLIST:
The biggest thing I need from FGUnity is MULTI MONITOR SUPPORT. This should be out of the box. We need screen real estate for all the information we use and it would make our lives infinitely easier.

Next wish based on multimonitor, would be the ability to run a map client that the GM can control. I like to use FG as my game map on my tv for my players to interact with but it gets cumbersome to control it.

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We do it using a second computer as a client outputting to the HDTV for the players and a touch screen monitor duplicating it's image for the DM. Then the DM moves the player characters as he's instructed by the players using the touch screen. As well he has a computer for the DM game server with another monitor. So yeah, it can get a bit cumbersome at times but it works for the most part. A nice thing is the DM doesn't lose track of what's going on with the map when he minimizes it on the main computer to free up space. For our game having the ability for players to move using a tablet or smartphone would round out the package perfectly. Then the DM would just have to monitor the moves instead of actually make them for the players. But still, better multi-monitor support would be welcome as well even if it was just being able to drag the map image in a separate window to a different monitor.

In case you missed the Fantasy Grounds Fridays stream today...
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/406523239