Fantasy Grounds Classic Connections Explained

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Originally Posted by Lance Dieselman

1. 192.168.1.7
2. Attachment 33556
3. Wireless (not both)
4.Attachment 33557
5. Just Windows Firewall. Tried Disabling it to no avail, made this exception Attachment 33558
6. Attachment 33559
7. Attempt at Port Forwarding in-router Attachment 33560


Been going through FAQs and Tutorials all day, looking for any guidance here. I bought Fantasy Grounds awhile ago and went through a long period of trying to figure this out but never posted. I called my ISP today (Spectrum) and the tech said they don't block ports so it would most likely be a firewall issue either with the router or PC. Canyouseeme hasn't shown me anything (timed out) and the Fantasy Grounds launcher always fails. I used to play through Hamachi but that is becoming unfeasible so I'd really like to figure out a way to get this working. Let me know if I need to clarify any of this stuff. I tried to be as thorough as possible.

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For Port Forwarding -
Is there an option to use Other/Custom and not FTP?
Your tracert shows two routers - do you have a router and a modem? Have you port forwarded the modem to the router and the router to the PC?
What is screenshot 3? That looks completely wrong. Where is this created?
You have posted the external IP as shown by FG but not by your Router, please provide both
Please close fantasy grounds
Please delete the Fantasy Grounds firewall rules in Windows Firewall
Launch FG and then ALLOW ALL when windows prompts
Please post a screenshot of the windows firewall rules list including FantasyGrounds

Edit: Why is Hamachi becoming unfeasible?

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For Port Forwarding -
Is there an option to use Other/Custom and not FTP?
Your tracert shows two routers - do you have a router and a modem? Have you port forwarded the modem to the router and the router to the PC?
What is screenshot 3? That looks completely wrong. Where is this created?
You have posted the external IP as shown by FG but not by your Router, please provide both
Please close fantasy grounds
Please delete the Fantasy Grounds firewall rules in Windows Firewall
Launch FG and then ALLOW ALL when windows prompts
Please post a screenshot of the windows firewall rules list including FantasyGrounds

Edit: Why is Hamachi becoming unfeasible?

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1. No option for Custom/Other in the Port Forwarding dropdown menus.
2. Yes, a router and a modem, hadn't really considered that, I will try and do that if I can figure it out
3. I believe I saw it on a How-to (I've been at it a while following where google searches lead me), in Windows defender> Connection Security Rules> Create a New Rule> protocols and ports
4. It never occurred to me they weren't the same thing
5. Done
6. Deleting all rules.
7. Allowing all on next open
8.

Thank you for being patient with me, this is a bit outside of my wheel house and I've been trying to cobble together some sense of how to do all of this. I feel like now that I know to go modem to router to PC with the Port Forwarding I have something else to try, but if you see any obvious issues here please let me know.

And as for Hamachi, it had worked for a play group I had years ago, but it required considerable troubleshooting with regularity. I'm trying to get a moderate size group of newcomers to fantasy grounds in the play (tabletop veterans), many far less tech savvy than I. I'm not sure I can explain to 5 different people the processes involved with Hamachi and troubleshoot when they had problems (which was a fairly regular occurrence in our old group) and it's not going to be a good time if I have to be the tech guy. That and I can already feel the tensing that at least one guy when I mention that we're going to be "port tunneling". It would be much easier on everyone's nerves and feelings if I can just quarterback for them and ask as little of them as possible. Social Distancing has made strange bedfellows.

Edit: And for clarity, I am now trying port forward from the modem to my router, then to my PC? So in those instances, the internal IP is the IP of the device I'm setting up the forwarding on, and the external ip is the one I'm forwarding it to?

Your router has WAN and LAN interfaces - 192.168.0.something (maybe 7) and 192.168.1.1
Your Modem has WAN and LAN interfaces - maybe 76.179.79.99 (but you need to confirm) and 192.168.0.1
Your PC only has a LAN interface - 192.168.1.7

The modem is first
You need to port forward TCP1802 from the modem to the routers WAN interface
then you move to the router
and port forward TCP1802 from the router to the PC LAN interface

I have personally found Hamachi to be very reliable.

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Your router has WAN and LAN interfaces - 192.168.0.something (maybe 7) and 192.168.1.1
Your Modem has WAN and LAN interfaces - maybe 76.179.79.99 (but you need to confirm) and 192.168.0.1
Your PC only has a LAN interface - 192.168.1.7

The modem is first
You need to port forward TCP1802 from the modem to the routers WAN interface
then you move to the router
and port forward TCP1802 from the router to the PC LAN interface

I have personally found Hamachi to be very reliable.

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I guess I'm sort of confused still about what goes where.
This is the modem's port forwarding menu. For External IP, I entered the WAN IP4v address of . For Local IP, I added the Router's LAN IP of

Assuming this is correct, I would then go into my router's settings and enter in the LAN for my P

generally do not specifiy the external IP on your port forward
you cant port forward to something that isnt on the same network
the inside/LAN port of the router is not on the same network as teh modem - only its WAN interface/address is on the LAN of the modem

internet --- WAN ip [modem] LAN ip ------ WAN ip [router] LAN ip ----- LAN ip [PC]

modem port forwards tcp 1802 to 192.168.0.something (find the WAN ip of the router)
router port forwards tcp 1802 to 192.168.1.7 (if that is the ip of the PC)

Assuming I've done that and it still isn't working, is there another thing to check? What I have so far is:
Attachment 33573. This is based upon the idea that my router has a WAN ip of 192.168.0.14, which I found on this screenAttachment 33574
The port forwarding menu on the router seems much more straightforward, and I am fairly certain my PC's LAN IP is 192.168.1.7 from every method I've used to check it from this point. I have restarted the router, the modem and fantasy ground at this point and am still receiving failure messages from the fantasy grounds client as well as canyouseeme (running it with the fantasy grounds client open).

Hi Lance

It seems you are much closer now. Can you please also post the output of
ipconfig
for me?

Sure thing, current Attachment 33593

Edit: Notice the LAN ip for the desktop is different, I don't believe I've set it as static yet. If I'm able to get this working even 1 time I'll get into setting a static ip address. I have changed the router-to-pc connection to reflect the new altered ip address, still with no luck

if you would like me to have a look at it remotely with you send me your email via PM please Lance

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Originally Posted by damned

Hi DJZuki

Please post answers to all 7 questions with screenshots in one post, for example #2 requires a screenshot of the external IP address as shown by the router, you cannot (not 100% true) do this from the command prompt
Please close fantasy grounds
Please delete the Fantasy Grounds firewall rules in Windows Firewall
Launch FG and then ALLOW ALL when windows prompts
Post screenshots of things, dont just say "I have done"
I understand this is frustrating. Posting partial or incomplete information drags the process out and consumes more of my and others time in trying to assist you.
We want to get you working.

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Dammed, I am answering everything I can and I couldn't locate my IP, which I noted in my first post on this thread. I understand this is a pain, but please note I am not annoyed or anything I am simply confused cause I am not tech-savvy. Anyway, the following details you have requested for:



IP details Screenshot: Attachment 33604

Window Defenders Screenshot: Attachment 33605

The final result screenshot: Attachment 33606

I am going answer again the question and will be trying with screenshots. However, due to the 5 limit photo please bear with me. I am working with you, Dammed. I may be wrong in some areas, cause I am using google given I never done this before and without some kind of clue where to look, it's hard to give the correct information.

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1. Your LAN IP Address
67.187.171.123 base on what is my ip.com
2. The first two sets (octects) of your WAN IP as displayed by Fantasy Grounds and as displayed by your Router
FG IP: Attachment 33610
Router: 10.0.01
3. Whether you are using Wired or Wireless (and not both) Wireless
4. Confirmation that you have set your Adapter in Network and Sharing Centre to Private. It's set to private
5. Confirmation of what AV you are running and whether you have set any exceptions The screenshot above under window defenders has this.
6. Post the results of the tracert 8.8.8.8 command (if you have security concerns you can remove this bit once its been responded to)
Attachment 33617
7. Confirmation as to what you have setup in your Router if changes have been made
Comfirming.

Updated on 4/13/2020 at 1:17pm in PST

I went to update the program to see if that may help it, but I am not able to update the program.