Pathfinder Second Edition - Remaster project

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Originally Posted by webdove

Hi, I am finding that no matter how many times I type /remastered into chat it only replies with Do you want to update this campaign to use Pathfinder Remastered rules.
I cannot get it to switch back to legacy.

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Select "No" and it will change to legacy. I'll review changing the wording of the message.

Ah. Thank you.

Is there a date for release of Player Core 2 for FGU? And will the ORC module be released at the same time?

Xargun

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Originally Posted by Xargun

Is there a date for release of Player Core 2 for FGU?

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FG's release date for Player Core 2 is the official Paizo release date of August 1st.

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Originally Posted by Xargun

And will the ORC module be released at the same time?

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This will follow at a later date, but not too long after - maybe a week or two (but I'm not committing to that).

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Originally Posted by Trenloe

FG's release date for Player Core 2 is the official Paizo release date of August 1st.


This will follow at a later date, but not too long after - maybe a week or two (but I'm not committing to that).

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Excellent. Trying to decide when to update my current PF2 game to the remastered rules since half the PCs use classes out of Player Core 2. Thanks

Xargun

While rebuilding some characters for my players I unfortunately recognized a few things the player core 2 is missing:

The monk chargen tracker doesn't give the key ability choose option and so there is no free ability boost as well.

The Barbarian is missing its level 3 "Furious Footfalls" class feature.

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Originally Posted by Mirostalle

While rebuilding some characters for my players I unfortunately recognized a few things the player core 2 is missing:

The monk chargen tracker doesn't give the key ability choose option and so there is no free ability boost as well.

The Barbarian is missing its level 3 "Furious Footfalls" class feature.

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Welcome to the FG forums. Thanks for letting us know about these issues, we'll get these fixed in the next update.

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Originally Posted by Mirostalle

While rebuilding some characters for my players I unfortunately recognized a few things the player core 2 is missing:

The monk chargen tracker doesn't give the key ability choose option and so there is no free ability boost as well.

The Barbarian is missing its level 3 "Furious Footfalls" class feature.

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Thanks for the catches there, Mirostalle! Both have been fixed and are set to update ASAP.

The Barbarian Rage feature is granting a -1 to Armor Class (probably a hold over from old rage)

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Originally Posted by KosmicDM

The Barbarian Rage feature is granting a -1 to Armor Class (probably a hold over from old rage)

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I don't think Player Core 2 has been released on FG yet.

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Originally Posted by Montis

I don't think Player Core 2 has been released on FG yet.

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It was released on August 1st.

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Originally Posted by Montis

I don't think Player Core 2 has been released on FG yet.

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Player Core 2 released on August 1st

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Originally Posted by Montis

I don't think Player Core 2 has been released on FG yet.

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You are probably thinking of the ORC version, which isn't out yet.

Huh, there wasn't any post in the official conversion status thread, so I thought it wasn't out yet.

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Originally Posted by MaxAstro

Could Min. Action be enabled by default for Cast actions? Because of how Fantasy Grounds handles spells and apply all, it's hard to imagine a situation where you wouldn't want a Cast action to be clickable.

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I found a good way of doing this in the code, it'll be in the next release. I've also made any new actions created to have the includeinminlist flag set.

Have I mentioned that I love you?

Thanks. :)

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Have I mentioned that I love you?

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Not recently... ;)

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Thanks. :)

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You're very welcome.

Player Core 2 issues:

Many of the classes from Player Core 2 are assigned a feat at level one, but this feat is not given at level one.

Alchemist is missing being assigned Alchemical Crafting on class assignment.

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level 1 feat, and alchemical crafting not being assigned in class definition:
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The problem extends to Barbarian, Champion, Investigator, Swashbuckler for the missing first level feat, I have not investigated if any other innate feats such as Alchemical Crafting are missing from these classes.

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Originally Posted by gavinbarnard

Player Core 2 issues:

Many of the classes from Player Core 2 are assigned a feat at level one, but this feat is not given at level one.

Alchemist is missing being assigned Alchemical Crafting on class assignment.

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The problem extends to Barbarian, Champion, Investigator, Swashbuckler for the missing first level feat, I have not investigated if any other innate feats such as Alchemical Crafting are missing from these classes.

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Thanks for letting us know. We'll get these fixed in the next release.

I am trying to setup alchemic bombs as items (weapons) but whenever I add them to a PC's inventory it does not pick up the Alchemical Bomb skill when you look on the Actions tab. I have tried several variations of the Group and SubCategory. Can someone enlighten me to the correct text to make this work?

Xargun

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Originally Posted by Xargun

I am trying to setup alchemic bombs as items (weapons) but whenever I add them to a PC's inventory it does not pick up the Alchemical Bomb skill when you look on the Actions tab. I have tried several variations of the Group and SubCategory. Can someone enlighten me to the correct text to make this work?

Xargun

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I usually create a Spellcasting class on the Actions tab and manually create "spells" for these. However, I believe the new / correct way of doing this is to make them Activities. I think if you look at the Elixir of Life in the Player Core, you can see how as soon as it is in your inventory, it creates an Activity on your Activities tab to use it.

Player Core - ORC has the wrong amount of damage listed in the spell for Arctic Rift. Just noticed it tonight while setting up an item for my group to use that has that spell. It says 5d8 when Archives says it does 12d8.

Xargun

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Originally Posted by Xargun

Player Core - ORC has the wrong amount of damage listed in the spell for Arctic Rift. Just noticed it tonight while setting up an item for my group to use that has that spell. It says 5d8 when Archives says it does 12d8.

Xargun

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The damage is calculated based on the spell slot it is prepared in as the damage changes when heightened - see the screenshot below. Looking at the spell in isolation (i.e. outside of a spell slot) won't give the accurate damage. When the spell is added in a rank 8 spell slot, the damage is 12d8.

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...chmentid=61813

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Originally Posted by Xargun

I am trying to setup alchemic bombs as items (weapons) but whenever I add them to a PC's inventory it does not pick up the Alchemical Bomb skill when you look on the Actions tab. I have tried several variations of the Group and SubCategory. Can someone enlighten me to the correct text to make this work?

Xargun

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for me there are two ways to use it. First Prepare the Bombs in the Action Tab as "Spells" like before, or you can use the Extension i Created and throw they over the activity Tab. My personal Favorit to play the Alcemist is with the Prepared Spells for the Daily Usage and the Activity Tab for Formular Book. Please check up that zero count items are not removed. In my Actual Campain i Play Bard i can´t test how it feels to PLay this Way an Alchemist.

https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/1878/view

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Originally Posted by Trenloe

The damage is calculated based on the spell slot it is prepared in as the damage changes when heightened - see the screenshot below. Looking at the spell in isolation (i.e. outside of a spell slot) won't give the accurate damage. When the spell is added in a rank 8 spell slot, the damage is 12d8.

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...chmentid=61813

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Ahh I see. Is this the new format for most spells now? Don't want to raise any more incorrect red flags.

Xargun

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Originally Posted by Xargun

Ahh I see. Is this the new format for most spells now? Don't want to raise any more incorrect red flags.

Xargun

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It's been like this for over three years, since actions could be coded within spells before they were added to the PC/NPC sheet.

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Originally Posted by Trenloe

It's been like this for over three years, since actions could be coded within spells before they were added to the PC/NPC sheet.

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On this note, a UI request:
If a damage entry for a spell has no dice or static damage bonus but is instead entirely a multiplier of CL/SL/etc (for example: 2 x CL fire damage), then when viewing the automation entries in the spell outside of a character sheet, the damage entry will be entirely blank and not even show the damage type. I assume this is because the calculation runs "2xCL -> CL is 0 -> 0 damage -> don't display damage type", or something like this.

This also happens if there is a negative dice modifier that matches up with the amount of dice per caster level. For example, if a spell deals 1d6 fire/caster level, minus 1d6, the damage entry will show as blank with no damage type.

This can make it easy to miss an incorrect damage type when building spells, something that has happened to me a time or two. For example normally if you misspell "electricity", you can tell you messed up because the damage type will be blank. But in this situation you won't know it's wrong until you actually add the spell to a character.

It would be nice if the automation entry always showed the damage type, even if it thinks the spell is going to do 0 damage (just displaying "0 fire" instead of nothing, for example).

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Originally Posted by MaxAstro

On this note, a UI request:
If a damage entry for a spell has no dice or static damage bonus but is instead entirely a multiplier of CL/SL/etc (for example: 2 x CL fire damage), then when viewing the automation entries in the spell outside of a character sheet, the damage entry will be entirely blank and not even show the damage type. I assume this is because the calculation runs "2xCL -> CL is 0 -> 0 damage -> don't display damage type", or something like this.

This also happens if there is a negative dice modifier that matches up with the amount of dice per caster level. For example, if a spell deals 1d6 fire/caster level, minus 1d6, the damage entry will show as blank with no damage type.

This can make it easy to miss an incorrect damage type when building spells, something that has happened to me a time or two. For example normally if you misspell "electricity", you can tell you messed up because the damage type will be blank. But in this situation you won't know it's wrong until you actually add the spell to a character.

It would be nice if the automation entry always showed the damage type, even if it thinks the spell is going to do 0 damage (just displaying "0 fire" instead of nothing, for example).

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That's specifically coded to not show entries that don't apply. I'd need to code exceptions for spells that aren't in a PC/NPC sheet. I'll consider it for a future release, but it's going to be a low priority, so no guarantee iff/when it will be implemented. In the meantime, the best practice is to test your spell coding within a PC/NPC spell class.

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Originally Posted by Trenloe

There will be at some point, we need to work out the best way to do it as an update to the current product - i.e. it won't be a new product, but we need to keep the legacy version available too. There's no ETA for this as we have other priorities (Player Core 2 among others). Plus, you can use the current Beginner Box in FG fine with the remastered rules.

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Thank you!! I appreciate the work you all are doing!

This might not be the correct place to put this, And I know it's kind of silly... but as I am building my first 2E game (our 1E game is still wrapping up) I am learning all the changes that have happened in Fantasy Grounds to play 2E on the system

But every time I look at this it bugs me

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This might not be the correct place to put this, And I know it's kind of silly... but as I am building my first 2E game (our 1E game is still wrapping up) I am learning all the changes that have happened in Fantasy Grounds to play 2E on the system

But every time I look at this it bugs me

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Well I can't unsee that now. XD

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Originally Posted by Orimn

This might not be the correct place to put this, And I know it's kind of silly... but as I am building my first 2E game (our 1E game is still wrapping up) I am learning all the changes that have happened in Fantasy Grounds to play 2E on the system

But every time I look at this it bugs me

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The problem is that you can't see it if it isn't in upper case. It kinda, becomes hidden...

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I'll make sure there's no issues if I change that from all upper case, and if there isn't it will be updated in a future release.

;)

It's like the ago old reason that rogues wear leather armor... It's made of hide :D

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Originally Posted by Orimn

This might not be the correct place to put this, And I know it's kind of silly... but as I am building my first 2E game (our 1E game is still wrapping up) I am learning all the changes that have happened in Fantasy Grounds to play 2E on the system

But every time I look at this it bugs me

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Updated today: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...mber-24th-2024

Sorry if this was already asked or if is not the place to ask this. Is PF2 Player Core 2 going to be added to the ORC module? Or only Player Core is part of it.

Last I've heard Player Core 2 is going to be added, but there's not an ETA currently on when.

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Last I've heard Player Core 2 is going to be added, but there's not an ETA currently on when.

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That's great to hear !

On a completely different subject, I was wondering if there was plans to add Advantage/Disadvantage to the PF2 rules
It's of course a core part of DnD, and it's also integrated into Pathfinder 1E

My new PF2 game has a Witch character who uses the Sure Strike spell (The next time you make an attack roll before the end of your turn, roll the attack twice and use the better result.) and the automation in the spell book is written out as - Sure Strike; Fortune - So I assumed that you guys are planning on adding it using the PF2 naming of Fortune instead of Advantage/Disadvantage

Just curious, I love Fantasy Grounds game automation and I go out of my way to make sure all my players and myself have everything automated to the teeth, I like to know all the effects are being handled, modifiers, bonuses so we can focus on choices and not book keeping. It's what bogs down my at home game of PF2 I run with my son and friends. Making sure you have counted every bonus or penalty can make combat slow down, where my games in Fantasy Grounds are so much more headache free because you all have worked so hard on making this a wonderful gaming tool

Thanks for your time !

Hello
Fortune is a trait in PF2e.
https://2e.aonprd.com/Traits.aspx?ID=612

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Hello
Fortune is a trait in PF2e.
https://2e.aonprd.com/Traits.aspx?ID=612

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I know it is a trait, I wasn't asking that

In Fantasy grounds there is automation in the software that when a spell effect or other effect has the Fortune trait (In the DnD and Pathfinder 3.5 rulesets it's called Advantage/Disadvantage) Fantasy Grounds will automatically make both rolls, then select the winning roll for the action taken

I was asking if there was plans to integrate this automation into the PF2 system which is lacking this specific automation
I have tried using the same automation coding that the DnD ruleset uses to automate it, but it does not function in PF2

For example
Effect: ADVATK
Effect: DISATK

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I know it is a trait, I wasn't asking that

In Fantasy grounds there is automation in the software that when a spell effect or other effect has the Fortune trait (In the DnD and Pathfinder 3.5 rulesets it's called Advantage/Disadvantage) Fantasy Grounds will automatically make both rolls, then select the winning roll for the action taken

I was asking if there was plans to integrate this automation into the PF2 system which is lacking this specific automation
I have tried using the same automation coding that the DnD ruleset uses to automate it, but it does not function in PF2

For example
Effect: ADVATK
Effect: DISATK

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That would be inappropriate because many Fortune effects don't actually work that way in Pathfinder 2E.

For instance, if you burn a hero point for a reroll, that's a fortune effect -- and you use the result of the reroll even if it's worse. The same goes for Halfling Luck. Devise a Strategm is a fortune effect, and it only involves a single roll. Assurance is a Fortune effect and doesn't involve a roll at all.