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New release available for update, version 2024.06.11
Fix new campaign initialization errors
Fix real-time surprise die changes when used with OSRIC
Fix surprise die default option being incorrect in 2E
Fix encumbrance management to match changes in CorRPG
Thanks for that, much appreciated
My pleasure
That was quick. Thank you so much!
Thanks for the report, and you're quite welcome.
New release 1.82 20240612
Fixes encumbered movement rates not divisible by 3 when used with the OSRIC ruleset
I now get this with the new update:
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Hi,
I get this console error:
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[ERROR] Script execution error: [string "..ons and House Rules:..har_encumbrance.lua"]:100: attempt to call field 'getActorTypes' (a nil value)
I am getting the same error.
Sorry for the delay, folks. There is a new version out now that should correct this and match up to the latest updates. Let me know if you're still having issues.
There appears to be an issue when delaying a turn in the CT, detailed here: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...Turn-in-combat
This is the error reported in the console: [ERROR] Script execution error: [string "2E:scripts/manager_combat_adnd.lua"]:949: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'nLastInit' (a nil value)
Thanks for confirming, Trenloe. I did see that other post a couple of days ago and thought it might be mine that was causing the issue. Just didn't have time to check. I'll give it a look and see what's going on.
New version in Forge - 1.84
Fixes issue with PC/NPC delay initiative.
Thanks.
Hi,
Another Tuesday, another update, and everything's gummed up again.
Works fine without AD&D Options but host of script errors with extension loaded
Thanks for the logs and the report. Same error as the last time and only the 3rd time I've seen it. Maybe I'll get lucky and be able to reproduce it this time. I'll apply the updates and see what happens...
I updated and had a look at the CoreRPG code updates. There's nothing in there that should affect anything with OSRIC or the extension. And, of course, I can't reproduce the issue. Is this a problem in all of your campaigns? If nothing else, maybe you can get me a copy of a campaign folder that you're seeing the issue in and I can try it on my end. I've never tried running someone else's campaign folder, but I don't know of a reason that it wouldn't work.
Hi,
Only one campaign - a different one to last time. The only connection I can see is that in both cases it was the first campaign to be launched after update.
All my other campaigns seem fine and all are just plain OSRIC with AD&D Options, no other extensions.
Hmm, can't upload a zip of the campaign folder here, too large so have uploaded it to my google drive.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...eT?usp=sharing
New policy, back up campaign before launching after an update!
Thanks! I grabbed the files and I'm seeing the issue, too. It certainly makes it unusable. I'll try to figure out exactly when it happens during loading...
It is odd, as I say the only similarity I can see is that although it happened to 2 different campaigns on 2 different occasions (the last two FGU update Tuesdays) on each occasion it was the first campaign I launched after the update - all others seem unaffected.
That implies to me that its some kind of trigger event that isn't completing until a campaign is loaded (or closed) causing it to freeze but not affecting subsequent campaigns.
I'll delete the campaign folder now, let me know if you need it again or a clean version for comparison
I've got what I need - thanks for the help. A thought... maybe next time you update you could try creating a new campaign with OSRIC and the extension to see if it happens then, too.
Will doQuote:
Originally Posted by Doomsword
Hi,
just applied Tuesday's update and restarted with a new OSRIC/AD&D OHR campaign. No issues at all. Launched existing campaign (the one you have a copy of) no issues at all.
So either this update didn't generate the issue or it doesn't effect a new campaign.
Ok, that's good to know. Thanks for trying it.
I got busy and forgot to mention what I found in terms of what triggers the issue. I can reproduce it in my campaigns now.
If there's a token on the map that represents a dead PC, the issue will occur on load/reload. If you remove the token (or give it some hit points) and then reload, the problem doesn't occur. If you thereafter add the dead token back to the map, there's no issue until you reload with the token still on the map.
So... something is going on with the tokens for dead guys and it doesn't have anything to do with updates. If I can reproduce it, that probably means that it can happen to everybody. I'll dig into it and get a fix out as soon as I can.
Thanks very much for helping me track this down.
I'm trying to set up a new 1E campaign. When I create a new character and drag the class to the levels window, I am getting incorrect XP to next level values - Fighter is showing 1900 instead of 2000, Cleric is showing 1550 instead of 1500, and Magic User is showing 2400 instead of 2500.
OSRIC's values are slightly different from 1E's XP values and the numbers you are seeing are coming from the OSRIC - Player's Content module. You can see them in the "Other" tab in the detail view for each class.
You'll either need to change those values in the module in each campaign you use it in or create your own version of the module. You could do that by opening the module in an empty campaign, making the changes, and then /exporting the module with all of the record types that OSRIC uses. You'd then load that new module (with the changes you've made) in your campaigns instead of the one without the changes. At least, I think that's how that goes. You could also modify it "by hand", which is what I usually do but that requires a bit more knowledge.
Searching for "modifying a module" should return plenty of results with more details than what I've given above.
Thanks, that did the trick.
How can I permanently change an attack matrix on a character sheet or NPC sheet? By default they are incorrect for AD&D 1E, which does not use THACO and instead uses a sequence with 6 x 20, e.g. 23 22 21 20 20 20 20 20 20 19 18 17, etc. I can edit the attack matrix but as soon as I close the sheet and re-open it, the attack matrix resets to default.
Under options you can select the Monster Attack Matrice that you want to use OSRIC or 1ed. Not sure if that does anything to PCs
Although the PCs in my games all have attack matrixes utilising the "six zeroes" - it can be seen at the top of the Action tab in the attached.
As far as I know 1ed and OSRIC do not use THAC0 - that's 2ed.
That said I'm also using OSRIC - are you just using AOHR with 2ed?
Thanks. That helped me out. It wasn't the Attack Matrix setting I needed as I already had that set to 1E, but that is ignored without the previous option, Use 1E/OSRIC Data, was set to No so the Attack Matrix setting was ignored. After I set Use 1E/OSRIC Data to Yes, I got correct attack matrices on both player character sheets and NPC sheets.
Glad it helped, happy gaming. Don't hesitate to ask more questions as needed
Yes, as you've seen, you need Use 1E/OSRIC Data set to Yes for matrices and the other OSRIC/1e-related stuff to be applied. This is because the extension can be used for either 2e or OSRIC/1E. As far as the Monster Attack Matrices go, that setting applies only to actors without a class or "Fights As" set. It's there because OSRIC and 1e monster attack matrices differ slightly. Thanks!
Why no 1E monks? Is there a problem behind the scenes creating a monk class, or have you just not got that far yet? Can I just add a new class myself for a monk, or there a reason that won't work?
It's just that it's not the job of the extension. The classes come from whatever modules you're using - OSRIC Player's Reference or 2E PHB. OSRIC, as published, doesn't include Monks, Barbarians, or Bards. You can certainly create the class yourself, from the 1E and/or 2E PHBs. Or, you could load the 2E PHB (if you own it) and use that class as-is or modify it. Hope that helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulChatterton
Thanks. Where can the attack matrices be modified? I'm getting the 1e matrices now, but I notice a couple of issues with them.
1. When I create extra levels, the attack matrices are set to all 20s
2. The fighter matrix continues to change after level 17 where the 1e rules have it stop at 17.
It's not a big deal because I don't think players are likely to get that far during the games I have in mind, but it would be good if I could fix it if possible.
1. I am seeing some weirdness with the matrices when adding levels and using the extension with the 2E ruleset. Are you using the 2E ruleset? At any rate, I'll get to the bottom of it and fix it.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulChatterton
2. This is because the matrix values are set to OSRIC values, which is what I assumed most people trying to emulate 1E would use for their sourcebooks whether they used to OSRIC ruleset or not. As you've seen, there's a option for monster attacks to use either OSRIC matrix values or 1e matrix values. In order to do what you're looking for, I'll need to add a similar option for PC matrices.
Is it possible to add a similar option to use 1e or OSRIC XP tables too? I feel this may be a bit of a rabbit hole.
Quite why there are so many variances between OSRIC and 1e is beyond me, seems to subvert the entire point of having OSRIC!
I'm happy with OSRIC as it is, I don't feel the changes are game breaking but I'm sure there are others that feel differently.
To be honest, I am not even sure what OSRIC is. I'm just trying to recreate 1e as it was back when I first played it back in 1979.
I'm using the 2E ruleset. Actually, when I create a campaign in FGU, I am offered two different 2E rulesets, but one gives an error when starting up a campaign. The other is the only ruleset where the AD&D Options and House Rules is offered so that's the one I'm using.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doomsword
Old School Reference and Index Compilation - intended to be a redrafting of the 1e rules for use as a publication tool to allow new material to be created for 1e using the OGL. Since expanded to be a usable ruleset. It should be an unadulterated restatement of 1e but it isn't, it has a few differences and omissions. It is however a easily digestible redraft of the original that is free and accessible.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulChatterton
https://osricrpg.com/get.php
So playing OSRIC (and using the OSRIC extension alongside AD&D HR) gets you very, very close to 1e.
They did a lot of this out of an abundance of caution, as I understand it. AD&D had never really been brought under the OGL to the extent that they did it. That's why you'll find a bunch of things that are slightly different or omitted altogether. They didn't want to infringe on things that may have been considered IP.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZippeeJerred
Regarding the XP tables, that's one such example. It comes from the reference manual, so there's not much to do in the ruleset or extension. I might be able to find a way around that; never tried and it would not match what's in the reference so it would probably confuse people. I think I told somebody up-thread how I'd go about modifying the values in the reference manuals, though.