Earthdawn v128 uploaded to the FGWiki

First, thanks for making the PAK version. At some point I know that thought had entered my mind.. (Apparently it also fled, its scary in there...) Very appreciated.

Yeah, technically I'd say this is the FASA edition of the rules this was written for, though I used a few items from Redbrick's classic edition, (spell matrixes armor and health values, since they were mentioned in FASA though not detailed)

I've not yet picked up the 3rd edition of the rules, though between FASA and Redbrick Classic, this ruleset, I think, would work fine, since mostly the differences are in the talents and spells.

Perhaps if time permits, I'll pick up the 3rd edition and try to identify if there are any major differences. Who knows I may get motivated and even create a 3rd ed fork of this (no promises ;) )

Just as an FYI, I am tracking two known issues/bugs in the ruleset:

- behavior differences between librarylink, linklist, windowcontrol shortcuts when using the drag and drop for an item from the library as a player (all work as intended as the GM) -- Need to find reference docs for these three (verified in 2.6.5 and 2.7.1)
- combat tracker: auto expire of effects are not working correctly, may need a full rewrite (verified in 2.6.5 and 2.7.1)

-kirbol

Thanks Kirbol. I'll go ahead and repackage it as '2nd Edition' (I believe that was FASA's last version) and put it up there with that. :)

Second edition was Living Room Games! Fasa Just did Earthdawn!

I've uploaded 1.37 to the wiki.

Fixed two minor bugs, one dealing with the Adventure Items creating errant properties, the second correcting the half magic step calculation.

I also re-uploaded the template libraries, to hopefully help any create their own libs for the ruleset. It (hopefully) illustrates the format for the libraries expected by the ruleset. ((please excuse all the vim comments/fold markers))

With the recent updates to 2.7.2, the drag and drop equipment functions are now working correctly for players and gms.

Enjoy
-kirbol

Just curious if anyone was still around who worked on this and willing to look into it? If not, I'm also curious who else is using or is interested in ED 3rd edition? Just curious if we can look into working on this (Even if it involves me diving in myself)

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Just curious if anyone was still around who worked on this and willing to look into it? If not, I'm also curious who else is using or is interested in ED 3rd edition? Just curious if we can look into working on this (Even if it involves me diving in myself)

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I am using it for ED 3rd at the moment (played last night), and the only noticeable difference is the inclusin of the D20 in the step progression.

Otherwise, the only issue we have found is that the number of available Recovery Tests doesn't reduce when you use one!

I'm still around, though mostly lurking these days as real life has caught up with me, so I haven't had an abundance of spare time. The group I'm playing in moved on from ED a quite a while back, so I haven't looked into this ruleset in quite some time, though I'm glad to hear it is still being used.

I don't recall the step differences in ED 3rd, it's possible that an option could be added to use ED 1&2 or ED 3rd I think... Assuming that is the major difference... It's also been a fair amount of time since I last looked at code for rulesets, so I'm probably very rusty. I also never got into adding overall ruleset options governed by the GM. As much as I would like to, I'm not sure if I can promise any timeline for an update right now. Time permitting, I can see what I can do.

On the Recovery Test count; That was actually a design decision, as I recall. There are occasions when you may roll your recovery step without it actually counting as a daily use, or you may be granted extra Recovery steps, a free recovery roll, etc. So I decided to use the mousewheel modifiers to track these changes to the recovery step, keeping them fairly visible to the player and gm, without having to go back and refund a use. Seemed to keep the book keeping easier all told. (maybe a global option or even a player option could be used to change the behavior)

-kirbol

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Originally Posted by kirbol

I'm still around, though mostly lurking these days as real life has caught up with me, so I haven't had an abundance of spare time. The group I'm playing in moved on from ED a quite a while back, so I haven't looked into this ruleset in quite some time, though I'm glad to hear it is still being used.

I don't recall the step differences in ED 3rd, it's possible that an option could be added to use ED 1&2 or ED 3rd I think... Assuming that is the major difference... It's also been a fair amount of time since I last looked at code for rulesets, so I'm probably very rusty. I also never got into adding overall ruleset options governed by the GM. As much as I would like to, I'm not sure if I can promise any timeline for an update right now. Time permitting, I can see what I can do.

On the Recovery Test count; That was actually a design decision, as I recall. There are occasions when you may roll your recovery step without it actually counting as a daily use, or you may be granted extra Recovery steps, a free recovery roll, etc. So I decided to use the mousewheel modifiers to track these changes to the recovery step, keeping them fairly visible to the player and gm, without having to go back and refund a use. Seemed to keep the book keeping easier all told. (maybe a global option or even a player option could be used to change the behavior)

-kirbol

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Good work by the way! It is a pleasure to use.

The only real differences between ED (earlier) and ED3 is:

Step 10 goes from D10+D6 to 2D8
Step 14 goes from D20+D4 to 2D12
Step 15 onwards replaces the D20 and D4. I can PM you the new dice steps if you want.

I hadn't found the mousewheel modifiers yet, but that is a great idea.

Thanks very much.

So basically the averages are the same, but the chances to min or max the dice have changed? At least by my basic math, it would seem that step 10 is still average 9 on the dice, and step 14 is an average of 13. Yeah, if you wouldn't mind a listing of the new steps could be useful if I can find some time.

The mousewheel modifiers are pretty much on most numbers/steps to make temporary bonuses much easier to deal with during play.

Hopefully things like the automatic linking of attributes, etc, aren't to convoluted when setting up talents,skills, items on the combat tab, etc. (always knew I shoulda made a manual..heh)

-kirbol

Thanks for coming out of the woodwork. Your framework is fantastic for doing what we need. I may see what I can do to tweak it here and there. And if you don't mind answering some newbie coder questions.. that would be great.

My first task, a simple one mind you, is going into the skill boxes and removing the "circle" from the listing. Small tweaks like that. I'm sure it's easy as soon as I grasp how to understand the XML.

Again though, fantastic job.