Genesys (FFG RPG) work in progress

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Originally Posted by Jelk

The new Tracker definitely looks great.
The game went pretty well yesterday as we tested a lot of mechanics.
One issue we had is with the combat tracker.

I see on your screenshot that you have the same. You cannot use the "Next Actor" button and you have the flag with the "?" on it which means I could not, once it happen, attribute the turn to anyone.
Once this shows up, trying to give anyone the "turn" flag modifies their init.
From the testing I done it seems that this happens as soon as i click once on Next Actor. After this this happen everytime.
After more testing i was thinking it might ask you for which PC gets the turn, for example, but it acts inconsistently and the init modification seems weird.


This is the main issue we had, appart from this everything went well.

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I am not sure if I understood what you explained, but there are two things:

- Currently only the GM can click on the "?" icons, to confirm the beginning of a PC/NPC turn (I am going to improve that soon, allowing PCs to click "?", if the turn is supposed to be for a PC)
- The actors switching places is not an error. It is the way I implemented how genesys/star wars handles initiative.

I was going to try to explain this here, but I think it would sound more confusing, so instead I will record a video explaining it better.

Maybe I misunderstood what you said, but I am interested to see, maybe it is a bug

Thank you for those explanations, I tested it right now with what you said and it does work as advertise.
This is better than I expected and a great way to implement it.

The more I use the setting, the more I enjoy it.

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Originally Posted by johniba

Hi Xarax, glad to see you managed to fix your issue.
If you remember the settings you changed, and if you could let me know I would be glad, maybe it is something I can fix to avoid that happening again.

Now regarding the skills you mentioned, I will see if I can add that feature in today's release later...

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There were a pair of extensions that were being used, one was a custom one I had made using old code and the other was (I think) one that you our Sevrick made for Android. I had both of them running simultaneously but when I got rid of them both, there were no more problems with the critical hit chart. I didn't try to add a second one to see if it auto added the +10 to the next roll but it seemed to work. As I mentioned after that though the new NPCs created no longer had the setting skill set anymore. Excited for the next update and the new combat tracker looks great!

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Originally Posted by Xarax

There were a pair of extensions that were being used, one was a custom one I had made using old code and the other was (I think) one that you our Sevrick made for Android. I had both of them running simultaneously but when I got rid of them both, there were no more problems with the critical hit chart. I didn't try to add a second one to see if it auto added the +10 to the next roll but it seemed to work. As I mentioned after that though the new NPCs created no longer had the setting skill set anymore. Excited for the next update and the new combat tracker looks great!

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Ahhh I see! Yes those extensions for android, terrinoth, keyforge will break the critical system as it is now.
I will have to remove them, and also put some warning not to use them anymore.

I will wrap up some updates I am doing, and I will also enable the new Setting system, and see if I can upload today

I am now going back over the Genesys Libraries and updating them to bring them more in line with the changes. As far as the critical hit extensions if Johniba has developed a better way they could be deleated so as to avoid problems.

@Sevrick @Johniba you guys are the best! Thanks so much for all your hard work to make our games awesome!

Started playing a game and notice the character sheets have Morality but Conflict is missing.

Also I think it would be helpful to give talents Subtypes. This would come in handy if someone wanted to tag their talents as Defense, Offensive, Social, etc. That way you could filter out the sea of talents to all applicable to your current situation.

Small complaint the Label "Name" is in all caps on character sheets.

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Originally Posted by sevrick

Started playing a game and notice the character sheets have Morality but Conflict is missing.

Also I think it would be helpful to give talents Subtypes. This would come in handy if someone wanted to tag their talents as Defense, Offensive, Social, etc. That way you could filter out the sea of talents to all applicable to your current situation.

Small complaint the Label "Name" is in all caps on character sheets.

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I will be adding later those missing fields.

I will also check about those other items you mentioned

EDIT: I fixed here NAME to Name... it will be available when i release the next version

NEW RELEASE!
Version 2021-04-11

Unless mentioned, the fix or improvement is for both Genesys and Star Wars.


Fixes:
-- Character/NPC sheet: Abilities tab -> Weapons: added header for weapon list


Improvements:
-- Character/NPC: message when entering or exiting a vehicle is more descriptive ("Joe: Entered Millenium Falcon")

-- Combat Tracker: lots of improvements!
For the GM combat tracker there are a lot of new features:
- When an NPC o Character is in a vehicle, you can now see the vehicle info.
- For NPCs, there is also an easy way to roll for vehicle skill check, or even use one of the vehicle's weapons.
(I will be adding the npcs weapons later too...)
For now the Player's version of the combat tracker will only display player stats (no npc stats for players to see) but I will implement some new stuff later


-- Genesys: Setting database
GMs can now create their own Setting(s), and list the available skills. When a player creates a new character, they will be given the option to select either the Default skills, or one of the Settings available.
That will populate the character sheet with the skills.

Players can also drag and drop one of the Settings from the settings database into their character sheet, which will also acomplish the same.

If no Setting is available, Genesys ruleset will behave like before, and just populate the character sheet with the default skills


P.S.: Currently if you have a vehicle with critical damage, instead of removing the critical damage from the Character sheet's Vehicle tab, make sure to open the vehicle record (from inventory), and deleting the critical from there.
I will be fixing this soon
Other info from the vehicle, like strain, hull damage, you can edit like normal, from the tab.
P.S.2: Genesys ruleset no longer requires the extensions we created for Terrinoth, Android, Keyforge...
Those are obsolete, and if you are using, disable them from your campaign.
(Keeping them enable will not cause any issues with the new ruleset versions, they will not be used if enabled though)



As always, you can download the updates here:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...R-?usp=sharing


Updated files:
- Genesys.pak
- StarWarsFFG.pak

Always remember to download BOTH rulesets if you intend to use Star Wars



Screenshots:

New Setting creation:
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Character creation, if there is one of more Settings available:

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New combat tracker:

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With the current implementation of vehicles in the combat tracker, although I still have a lot to improve and add stuff there (and I am already working on them)
now my priority will be:

- Finish implementing Morality, Duty etca and add the missing fields to the character sheets
- Improve the Party Sheet (and also add ways for the GM to handle Duty, Morality etca from there!)
- I will also add Party Vehicles, and also enable finally players to share vehicles, and even multicrew

I am also testing the possibility to add Vehicle Tokens to the combat tracker!

Hey Sevrick

Please take a look at the new "Setting" database from the notes above.

I think it would be really cool if you could add some to the libraries you created for Genesys, like for example add the Terrinoth setting to the terrinoth database, and also then the ones to android, keyforge to each one...
:)

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Originally Posted by johniba

Ahhh I see! Yes those extensions for android, terrinoth, keyforge will break the critical system as it is now.
I will have to remove them, and also put some warning not to use them anymore.

I will wrap up some updates I am doing, and I will also enable the new Setting system, and see if I can upload today

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hey Xarax... the new setting system is available, let me know how it works

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Originally Posted by johniba

Hey Sevrick

Please take a look at the new "Setting" database from the notes above.

I think it would be really cool if you could add some to the libraries you created for Genesys, like for example add the Terrinoth setting to the terrinoth database, and also then the ones to android, keyforge to each one...
:)

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I am on it :)

Hey Sevrick

I downloaded your latest libraries for SW, they dont seem to list any Special Ability records...
Werent they there before?

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Originally Posted by johniba

Hey Sevrick

I downloaded your latest libraries for SW, they dont seem to list any Special Ability records...
Werent they there before?

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No I didn't add them, not to star wars anyway, because I wasn't sure what to add. I mean any special abilities are already on the species themselves. If you have an idea on a way to use them I am open to suggestions.

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Originally Posted by sevrick

No I didn't add them, not to star wars anyway, because I wasn't sure what to add. I mean any special abilities are already on the species themselves. If you have an idea on a way to use them I am open to suggestions.

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No, its fine... i thought it was an error :)

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Originally Posted by johniba

-- Combat Tracker: lots of improvements!
For the GM combat tracker there are a lot of new features:
- When an NPC o Character is in a vehicle, you can now see the vehicle info.
- For NPCs, there is also an easy way to roll for vehicle skill check, or even use one of the vehicle's weapons.
(I will be adding the npcs weapons later too...)
For now the Player's version of the combat tracker will only display player stats (no npc stats for players to see) but I will implement some new stuff later

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This is really very cool and I am really looking forward to this being implemented for the NPC's weapons. Having those rolls at my finger tips will be a whole new level of awesome and speed for milling through my NPC's turns. "They will learn to fear the blinding turn speed of my minions!"

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Originally Posted by johniba

GMs can now create their own Setting(s), and list the available skills. When a player creates a new character, they will be given the option to select either the Default skills, or one of the Settings available.
That will populate the character sheet with the skills.

Players can also drag and drop one of the Settings from the settings database into their character sheet, which will also acomplish the same.

If no Setting is available, Genesys ruleset will behave like before, and just populate the character sheet with the default skills

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The Setting application is a great addition! All my hard work trying to figure out how to code these skills is no longer necessary! SWEET! A few things I noticed about it:

• When the window popped up to choose which set of setting skills to choose from it defaulted to being behind the new NPC window, instead of in front of it. I have no idea how easy a fix this would be but I think it should definitely be pulled to the front of the display if possible.

• A tab in the actual big setting menu to set a skill set as a campaign default would also be very nice so that the window could be dispensed with entirely. Again, no idea how easy that would be to implement.

• IF the first and second options here are not feasible or easy to implement I would suggest that instead of the Hyperlink book on the skills Banner bringing you to the Skills button it would instead bring menu to choose which setting should be applied.

Keep up the great work Johniba and thanks again! Can't wait to see what is next.

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Originally Posted by Xarax

This is really very cool and I am really looking forward to this being implemented for the NPC's weapons. Having those rolls at my finger tips will be a whole new level of awesome and speed for milling through my NPC's turns. "They will learn to fear the blinding turn speed of my minions!"


The Setting application is a great addition! All my hard work trying to figure out how to code these skills is no longer necessary! SWEET! A few things I noticed about it:

• When the window popped up to choose which set of setting skills to choose from it defaulted to being behind the new NPC window, instead of in front of it. I have no idea how easy a fix this would be but I think it should definitely be pulled to the front of the display if possible.

• A tab in the actual big setting menu to set a skill set as a campaign default would also be very nice so that the window could be dispensed with entirely. Again, no idea how easy that would be to implement.

• IF the first and second options here are not feasible or easy to implement I would suggest that instead of the Hyperlink book on the skills Banner bringing you to the Skills button it would instead bring menu to choose which setting should be applied.

Keep up the great work Johniba and thanks again! Can't wait to see what is next.

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hey thanks hehe

Those are great ideas, i will see what i can do!

Just created the whole set of skills I use for the Shadowrun Ruleset and added it to the setting to test it out.
It worked perfectly.

I am using a large screen, so the window actually appeared correctly and not behind the Character window, so everything went well.

Do you think it may be able able to sort this window like the Character sheet window is sorted, per category? May help to make sur you did not miss an import.

On a side note that is not precisely in the scope of this ruleset, but as you are creating it, you or Sevrick might have the answer.
I would like to add some "rules" easy to open for reference. I can create these as Notes, but i cannot find a way to export notes. Would you happen to have a workaround ?

Thanks again !

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Originally Posted by Jelk

Just created the whole set of skills I use for the Shadowrun Ruleset and added it to the setting to test it out.
It worked perfectly.

I am using a large screen, so the window actually appeared correctly and not behind the Character window, so everything went well.

Do you think it may be able able to sort this window like the Character sheet window is sorted, per category? May help to make sur you did not miss an import.

On a side note that is not precisely in the scope of this ruleset, but as you are creating it, you or Sevrick might have the answer.
I would like to add some "rules" easy to open for reference. I can create these as Notes, but i cannot find a way to export notes. Would you happen to have a workaround ?

Thanks again !

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Notes are tied into specific Campaigns, they're not really exportable. I would suggest making Story entries.

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Originally Posted by Jelk

On a side note that is not precisely in the scope of this ruleset, but as you are creating it, you or Sevrick might have the answer.
I would like to add some "rules" easy to open for reference. I can create these as Notes, but i cannot find a way to export notes. Would you happen to have a workaround ?

Thanks again !

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I’m doing the same thing for my WWII Occult Horror game and what I’ve done is I’ve made them as story entries grouped under a number series before the title (1.1 Background info, 1.2 misc. info, etc) so when I export the story entries as a module I can import it into a new campaign, then drag and drop those story entry links onto the notes and it copies the whole entry.

You can also copy/paste the "notes" xml tag from a campaign db.xml file to another

Thanks for all the inputs.

@Johniba Noticed something that got missed. (F) is still creating Failure symbols in the price of Vehicles. Looks good everywhere else.

When someone joins my game, they do not see the symbols for dices, failure etc, they see some character combination. I tried with a local second connection and it worked for me. I only load the standard ruleset and my own setting.
Any idea what can cause it ?

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Originally Posted by Jelk

When someone joins my game, they do not see the symbols for dices, failure etc, they see some character combination. I tried with a local second connection and it worked for me. I only load the standard ruleset and my own setting.
Any idea what can cause it ?

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I can check that

Are you on FGC or FGU?

What screen was that?

My bad for not being explicit enough.
In any description like skill description field, ability and such, when i use the [] dices symbols or the () results symbols it feels like it does not load forsome players and they get things like ÿ etc...

I use FGU and have no access to FGC to try.

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Originally Posted by Jelk

My bad for not being explicit enough.
In any description like skill description field, ability and such, when i use the [] dices symbols or the () results symbols it feels like it does not load forsome players and they get things like ÿ etc...

I use FGU and have no access to FGC to try.

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Ah dont worry about FGC, i asked only so i can check where the issue showed up for you first, it is usually a tip on how to locate it and replicate.

I will check that out, and fix :)

I think I have an idea on what it could be.

Some things to think about is there is only a spot for a career not specializations. Also with multiple specializations you should be able to link to those specializations. Of course this all could get fleshed out when you start working on trees. I have to say the trees are what I am looking forward most. Especially since playing a force user in my game. :)

Moralities value shouldn't be tied to one strength or weakness, since you can have multiple Moralities and there won't be 2 different values. I hope that makes sense.

One other thing I get an error when I am in the combat tracker.

Script execution error: [String "ct/scripts/ct entry.lua"]200: attempt to index global 'v defense fore' (a nil value)

I notice I can trigger it again if I toggle the vehicles on and off.

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Originally Posted by sevrick

Some things to think about is there is only a spot for a career not specializations. Also with multiple specializations you should be able to link to those specializations. Of course this all could get fleshed out when you start working on trees. I have to say the trees are what I am looking forward most. Especially since playing a force user in my game. :)

Moralities value shouldn't be tied to one strength or weakness, since you can have multiple Moralities and there won't be 2 different values. I hope that makes sense.

One other thing I get an error when I am in the combat tracker.

Script execution error: [String "ct/scripts/ct entry.lua"]200: attempt to index global 'v defense fore' (a nil value)

I notice I can trigger it again if I toggle the vehicles on and off.

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For the specializations and trees, i have something in mind already...

I will finish the other easier fields first, like morality etca, and focus my attention on trees

Now about that error, i will try to reproduce it, thanks

Sevrick I cant seem to be able to reproduce the error, can you try something for me?

Are you on FGC or FGU? Star Wars or Genesys?
I guess you updated both rulesets, right?
You said it happens when you toggle on/off, you mean that button at the top that toggles all vehicles at once?

And also, let me know if you are using a vehicle/npc from your libraries, tell me the name of them, i will try using the same here.

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Originally Posted by johniba

Sevrick I cant seem to be able to reproduce the error, can you try something for me?

Are you on FGC or FGU? Star Wars or Genesys?
I guess you updated both rulesets, right?
You said it happens when you toggle on/off, you mean that button at the top that toggles all vehicles at once?

And also, let me know if you are using a vehicle/npc from your libraries, tell me the name of them, i will try using the same here.

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I am using FGU Star Wars. I have the latest updated ruleset. Yes the space ship icon. When I toggle either one it does it.

I didn't even have a vehicle on the character.

Also I created a new character to see if it was a problem with the character.

Also I am getting an error when clicking the skills tab that says

Script execution error: [String "campaign/scripts/char_skillist.lua"]:168: attempt to index local 'aSystemskillist' (a nil value)

Not sure if it is related.

In an attempt to help isolate the bug, I don't get that error when using FGU, Genesys, with just the Core Rulebook and Expanded Players guide loaded. Rulesets are current. Clicking on the spaceship icon with and without a ship loaded works ok.

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Originally Posted by Urqy

In an attempt to help isolate the bug, I don't get that error when using FGU, Genesys, with just the Core Rulebook and Expanded Players guide loaded. Rulesets are current. Clicking on the spaceship icon with and without a ship loaded works ok.

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Ah thanks, that helps narrow down


I think that it could be a vehicle in the star wars library that does not have one of the shield fields recorded on it.
I can update the code to verify for it before linking in the window, but i would never know for sure if i fixed

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Originally Posted by sevrick

I am using FGU Star Wars. I have the latest updated ruleset. Yes the space ship icon. When I toggle either one it does it.

I didn't even have a vehicle on the character.

Also I created a new character to see if it was a problem with the character.

Also I am getting an error when clicking the skills tab that says

Script execution error: [String "campaign/scripts/char_skillist.lua"]:168: attempt to index local 'aSystemskillist' (a nil value)

Not sure if it is related.

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That error is really strange

Did you by any chance configure your FGU to use anything different from the Live version? (check screen)

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I cant seem to reproduce any of the two issues.

Are you using the Star Wars theme? if yes, are you using the latest version available?

Did you download both latest Genesys and Star Wars? That error could be because you do not have the latest genesys

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Originally Posted by johniba

That error is really strange

Did you by any chance configure your FGU to use anything different from the Live version? (check screen)

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I cant seem to reproduce any of the two issues.

Are you using the Star Wars theme? if yes, are you using the latest version available?

Did you download both latest Genesys and Star Wars? That error could be because you do not have the latest genesys

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Yes I redownload everything just to be sure. I tried removing all extensions and unloading all libraries.

I checked I am using the Live version. Also created a new Campaign and made a quick test character and got the same result.

Furthermore I tested it FGC still same result.

Not sure if it matters but I recently installed
wpdmtp.inf at C:\Windows\INF\
while trying to fix some problems related to another program. Would that effect it?

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Originally Posted by sevrick

Yes I redownload everything just to be sure. I tried removing all extensions and unloading all libraries.

I checked I am using the Live version. Also created a new Campaign and made a quick test character and got the same result.

Furthermore I tested it FGC still same result.

Not sure if it matters but I recently installed
wpdmtp.inf at C:\Windows\INF\
while trying to fix some problems related to another program. Would that effect it?

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Do you have this error in FGC too, or just the one about the vehicles?
Script execution error: [String "campaign/scripts/char_skillist.lua"]:168: attempt to index local 'aSystemskillist' (a nil value)

I will redownload everything here too... and run a test

Hey Sevrick, I found the issue!

omg I uploaded an outdated version by mistake, I only managed to get the error once i downloaded the .pak versions i had uploaded

I am so sorry for this, can you please redownload both .pak and test?

I will also post a Release notes here, just so everyone redownloads

I had some other fixes, I was holding off a bit to update some more things, but i will release this, and later release again in the weekend :)

RELEASE NOTES:

Version 2021-04-15

Fixes:
-- All text boxes/fields: When editing text, special Genesys/Star Wars symbols will no longer revert back to their special code (Like "(T)"" for example), unless you double click the text.
This is to try to fix an issue where a Player, connected to the GM, would sometimes not see the special dice symbols when opening a record like Skill, Talent etca, and would instead see international character symbols like ("ÿ")
-- Character sheet: Changed header from NAME, to Name
-- Vehicle sheet: Cost field will no longer convert special characters like "(F)" into genesys/star wars dice symbols
-- NPC Sheet: skills now list by: category -> name (just like in the PC sheets)
-- Genesys: Settings record: skills now list by: category -> name

Improvements:
- (Star Wars) Character/NPC sheets: Changed the background graphics for characteristics.





P.S.: Currently if you have a vehicle with critical damage, instead of removing the critical damage from the Character sheet's Vehicle tab, make sure to open the vehicle record (from inventory), and deleting the critical from there.
I will be fixing this soon



As always, you can download the updates here:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...R-?usp=sharing


Updated files:
- Genesys.pak
- StarWarsFFG.pak

Always remember to download BOTH rulesets if you intend to use Star Wars

Just tested with the new release, the player still do not see the symbols.
FGU, both with latest releases.

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Originally Posted by Jelk

Just tested with the new release, the player still do not see the symbols.
FGU, both with latest releases.

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Hi Jelk, can you do me a favor?

Can you give me the steps you are executing on the test?
For example what libraries you are using (if any) and if you are using libraries, what records you tested

If you are creating the records, let me know, and i will follow the steps and create the same here and test

If possible, try to give me all the steps...

I tried here, installed FGU in another computer, connected to my main one, I still could not reproduce the error, so I will have to wait your steps