Advanced Effects for 3.5E and Pathfinder

Hi all, sorry, Second attempt (first one in the wrong forum)

I'm in 4.0.10 Ultimate version of fgu.
I've created a clean campaign with only the Advanced Effects for 3.5E and Pathfinder
<name>Advanced Effects for 3.5E and Pathfinder</name>
<version>1.1.2</version>
Now, when a Character confronts an NPC, some of the weapons show without the damage (and show a bunch of errors), but when i disable the extension it works well.


Is it a new error?
Am I doing something wrong?

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Originally Posted by Urheil

Hi all, sorry, Second attempt (first one in the wrong forum)

I'm in 4.0.10 Ultimate version of fgu.
I've created a clean campaign with only the Advanced Effects for 3.5E and Pathfinder
<name>Advanced Effects for 3.5E and Pathfinder</name>
<version>1.1.2</version>
Now, when a Character confronts an NPC, some of the weapons show without the damage (and show a bunch of errors), but when i disable the extension it works well.


Is it a new error?
Am I doing something wrong?

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This extension is not compatible anymore with FG :) (since February I think)

Just tried the 1.2 beta version in combination with the custom item generator and worked great!

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Originally Posted by Urheil

Just tried the 1.2 beta version in combination with the custom item generator and worked great!

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ah, yeah, bmos has updated it :D Glad you found it :)

Latest version now available on FantasyGrounds Forge

Hey, the extension works like a charm and eases my life and that of my players.

Is it possible to add these things for the graphical cycler interface (like AC, saves, etc.)?

- Damage Reduction
- Skills

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Originally Posted by Zarestia

Hey, the extension works like a charm and eases my life and that of my players.

Is it possible to add these things for the graphical cycler interface (like AC, saves, etc.)?

- Damage Reduction
- Skills

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Good suggestions! I rarely use those (because I'm so used to writing effects myself), so I'm sure they could use attention.

I was able to activate this extension, but found that I could not get the effects to work.

Like:
Holy; IFT: ALIGN(evil); DMG: 2d6 good, melee

or ANY other did not work on the characters.

Will try it in a blank campaign.

Did not work, not sure what I am doing wrong. I can enter the effect, but it does not roll it.

Not working in a clean campaign, only extension laded. My House settings look different.

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Originally Posted by dellanx

Not working in a clean campaign, only extension laded. My House settings look different.

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Is the longbow equipped?

Somehow the "Action only" option doesn't work well for conditionals that look at others in general (such as "IFT: TYPE") while it DOES work for "IF" (or, when the condition regards the wielder)

It's sad because it'd be awesome for scripting bane weapons >.<

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Originally Posted by Asgurgolas

Somehow the "Action only" option doesn't work well for conditionals that look at others in general (such as "IFT: TYPE") while it DOES work for "IF" (or, when the condition regards the wielder)

It's sad because it'd be awesome for scripting bane weapons >.<

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Interesting! I'll take a look at that.

EDIT:
Advanced Effects v1.6
* Many code changes, hopefully will improve speed and reliability.
* Potential fix for reported issues with conditionals (as required by bane weapons).
Click here to see raw code changes

*tries it out*

Nope :(

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Originally Posted by bmos

Is the longbow equipped?

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Yes

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Originally Posted by Asgurgolas

*tries it out*

Nope :(

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Are you using it with other extensions perhaps?
Because it's definitely working all by itself.

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Originally Posted by dellanx

Yes

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Same question as Asgurgolas then. Any other extensions?
If not, could you zip up the campaign and send it to me? Or try in an otherwise blank test campaign first?

Wait, I just noticed the forge didn't update the extension (I still had the file from like, last year).. I deleted the file and re-updated it and now it looks like it works :D I love you all <3

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Originally Posted by Asgurgolas

Wait, I just noticed the forge didn't update the extension (I still had the file from like, last year).. I deleted the file and re-updated it and now it looks like it works :D I love you all <3

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Yes, when updating from Forge you should remove all prior versions of the extension. Glad it's working :)

My party recently got their hand on a ranger NPC wielding two weapons: a bane one and a hunting one :D now it's so much easier to handle *__*

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Originally Posted by bmos

Are you using it with other extensions perhaps?
Because it's definitely working all by itself.

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Tried with only that extension loaded, but effect does not show up in combat tacker.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by Asgurgolas

My party recently got their hand on a ranger NPC wielding two weapons: a bane one and a hunting one :D now it's so much easier to handle *__*

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Nice! It's pretty cool how much you can do with this extension really.
I like to assign all magic item effects to the items. This way you can change magic items by just equipping/unequipping them (and the effects change automatically).

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Originally Posted by bmos

Nice! It's pretty cool how much you can do with this extension really.
I like to assign all magic item effects to the items. This way you can change magic items by just equipping/unequipping them (and the effects change automatically).

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That's exactly what I do and why I love this :D

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Originally Posted by bmos

Nice! It's pretty cool how much you can do with this extension really.
I like to assign all magic item effects to the items. This way you can change magic items by just equipping/unequipping them (and the effects change automatically).

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I see what you mean about selecting the item. The effects are added and they work, but getting a new error. Heheh added 10d6 damage

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Originally Posted by dellanx

I see what you mean about selecting the item. The effects are added and they work, but getting a new error. Heheh added 10d6 damage

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You're using an old version of Enhanced Items.
It's available on Forge now, so just delete the version from /extensions and install from Forge.
https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/51/view

In fact it looks like you still have an old version of Item Durability also.
So just check all your extensions for updates and ideally subscribe to them via Forge (removing them from extensions folder first).

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Originally Posted by bmos

You're using an old version of Enhanced Items.
It's available on Forge now, so just delete the version from /extensions and install from Forge.
https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/51/view

In fact it looks like you still have an old version of Item Durability also.
So just check all your extensions for updates and ideally subscribe to them via Forge (removing them from extensions folder first).

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I did, not sure why I am getting the same error.

bmos, Thanks. It was an old item in inventory, that was not compatible with new extensions.

Nm. Bad info.

Trying out first time using, looks impressive.
Belt of Giant Strength +2
Added effect on Weapon STR: +2 enhancement
Equipped weapon
Rolled STR check, Melee Attack, CMB, and Strength skill, and all showed a positive in the resulting output as the extension suggests.

However, the character record sheet in the Inventory Tab does not properly reflect any changes to Carry Capacity
I realize this mod only affects the combat tracker, but I thought I would mention this to others in case anyone else had an idea on how to make it function or a workaround other than not using this feature on Strength modification effects. Currently I have tried using a negative in the weight column for this inventory item to offset weight, but it will not recognize the negative number.

An effect from a potion of Bears Strength though not as long-lasting has similar effects, and failures.

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Originally Posted by The Judge

Trying out first time using, looks impressive.
Belt of Giant Strength +2
Added effect on Weapon STR: +2 enhancement
Equipped weapon
Rolled STR check, Melee Attack, CMB, and Strength skill, and all showed a positive in the resulting output as the extension suggests.

However, the character record sheet in the Inventory Tab does not properly reflect any changes to Carry Capacity
I realize this mod only affects the combat tracker, but I thought I would mention this to others in case anyone else had an idea on how to make it function or a workaround other than not using this feature on Strength modification effects. Currently I have tried using a negative in the weight column for this inventory item to offset weight, but it will not recognize the negative number.

An effect from a potion of Bears Strength though not as long-lasting has similar effects, and failures.

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Careful using that with belt of giant strength since effects only act as temporary bonuses and that item provides a permanent bonus.
Unless you're playing 3.5E in which case you're fine. To add permanent bonuses to pathfinder, try this extension (although be careful with stacking).
Either way, you might want this extension for automation of carrying capacity and encumbrance.

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Originally Posted by bmos

Careful using that with belt of giant strength since effects only act as temporary bonuses and that item provides a permanent bonus.
Unless you're playing 3.5E in which case you're fine. To add permanent bonuses to pathfinder, try this extension (although be careful with stacking).
Either way, you might want this extension for automation of carrying capacity and encumbrance.

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I have your encumbrance extension loaded too and noted the penalties accordingly, which in turn prompted me to investigate.

What you mean about the belt pertains to stacking, I understand. What would be the correct way to indicate the temporary enhancement?

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Originally Posted by The Judge

I have your encumbrance extension loaded too and noted the penalties accordingly, which in turn prompted me to investigate.

What you mean about the belt pertains to stacking, I understand. What would be the correct way to indicate the temporary enhancement?

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The best I have found is adding the belt using drain and permanent bonuses and then just reducing any temporary bonus effects accordingly. It's a pain and I really need to figure out how to automate stacking with that extension.

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Originally Posted by bmos

The best I have found is adding the belt using drain and permanent bonuses and then just reducing any temporary bonus effects accordingly. It's a pain and I really need to figure out how to automate stacking with that extension.

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Thank you, this is very helpful. It also adjusted the character record's encumbrance vaules.

Not sure if this is a bug or if I am doing something wrong. I added an ATK:1 action-only effect to a weapon, and when there is a critical threat, the crit confirm roll adds in the bonus again. The actual roll shows the right tall, but then when it shows the crit confirm result, it adds the effects in a second time even though they were already added to the roll. Here is a screenshot showing the occurrence.
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It can be seen in the initial attack roll, there is an "effects:+1" applied, and the total for the roll of 19 adds a +4, giving a total of 23. This +4 is again added in the crit confirm as is show by the roll of a 7, plus 4 to get 11. This is all correct so far. Then the attack summary line for the critical threat resolution adds the weapon ATK bonus again to say the total was 12, which is incorrect.

Thank you for any clarification.

Cheers,
Brian

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Originally Posted by MostTornBrain

Not sure if this is a bug or if I am doing something wrong. I added an ATK:1 action-only effect to a weapon, and when there is a critical threat, the crit confirm roll adds in the bonus again. The actual roll shows the right tall, but then when it shows the crit confirm result, it adds the effects in a second time even though they were already added to the roll.

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Turns out this is an interaction with the "Extended Automation and Overlays" extension. If I disable that extension things behave as would be expected.

Is there something I can do to get them to coexist with this feature or is this some unfortunate side-effect that has no resolution?

Thanks,
Brian

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Originally Posted by MostTornBrain

Turns out this is an interaction with the "Extended Automation and Overlays" extension. If I disable that extension things behave as would be expected.

Is there something I can do to get them to coexist with this feature or is this some unfortunate side-effect that has no resolution?

Thanks,
Brian

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Thanks for reporting that!
Are you using the current version installed from the Forge or the original version installed from this thread?
If it's the current version I can take a look at making them compatible :)

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Originally Posted by bmos

Thanks for reporting that!
Are you using the current version installed from the Forge or the original version installed from this thread?
If it's the current version I can take a look at making them compatible :)

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Best I can tell, I am using the current versions both extensions from the Forge. On startup this is what is reported for those two extensions:

"Advanced Effects - PFRPG and 3.5E v1.6\rby Celestian, 2017-2021\rported to PFRPG/3.5E by rmilmine with improvements by bmos and SoxMax."

"FORTIF, HRESIST, ghost touch, AoO tracker, save overlays and more, v.3.3.15.1, for 3.5E and PFRPG rulesets. \rCopyright 2021 Smiteworks.\rBy mr900rr (FFOS), darrenan (keen), phixation (bypass), tahl liadon (some icons), bmos (TQ descriptors), DCrumb (max tag) and Kelrugem.\rMany new effects and nice stuff :) (see forum :P)"

Cheers,
Brian

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Originally Posted by bmos

Thanks for reporting that!
Are you using the current version installed from the Forge or the original version installed from this thread?
If it's the current version I can take a look at making them compatible :)

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Hi again,

This appears to be a bug in the Lua code for Kelrugen's extension. If I remove the Advanced Effects extension and just manually add an ATK:1 effect in the combat tracker with the "Extended Automation and Overlays" extension loaded, the issue occurs. I'll followup in the thread forum for that extension.

Cheers,
Brian

We can't get any effects on the PC Combat tab to work (tried adding INIT: 2 and AC: 2) but If I equip an Item with the same code things work as expected. We have "Extended Automation and Overlays" and "Extended Automation and alternative Overlays" loaded all forge based and updated.

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Originally Posted by Morenu

We can't get any effects on the PC Combat tab to work (tried adding INIT: 2 and AC: 2) but If I equip an Item with the same code things work as expected. We have "Extended Automation and Overlays" and "Extended Automation and alternative Overlays" loaded all forge based and updated.

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Effects added to the combat tab are automatically added to the combat tracker when the PC is added to the combat tracker.
So just add everything 'permanent' there like abilities that you have automated via effects and then remove characters from CT.
Then drag them into CT and all the pre-configured effects should auto-add.

Kel could probably tell us if this is entirely true, but you should probably only have one or the other of the extended automation extensions loaded and not both.