Test Release v3.3.0 (was v3.2.4)

Notes
The caching algorithm for player cache data has changed. If you revert to Live to join a game, you will need to nuke your cache, or you will get errors.

Updates

• [CoreRPG+] The story navigation buttons will recognize (Index) or (Contents) story names in a case insensitive way.
• [PFRPG/3.5E] Numerical option added to VULN effect.
• [PFRPG/3.5E/d20M] Added Skip option to On/Off button for combat tracker effects.
• [PFRPG] Implemented regeneration disabling when appropriate damage taken.
• [DEV] The module name would incorrectly be appended to URL links in modules. Fixed.

Cheers,
JPG

You might want to check out the options for hiding dice rolls.

I was testing out the 3.3.0 beta and it seemed like the players would have been able to see when the NPC were rolling spell saving throws from the combat tracker to targetted PC's.

I do remember that as not happening in the past, but I cannot point to the exact version. So either I have a setting wrong, or somewhere along the way, they element got pear-shaped.

Poobah

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Originally Posted by poobah_1

You might want to check out the options for hiding dice rolls.

I was testing out the 3.3.0 beta and it seemed like the players would have been able to see when the NPC were rolling spell saving throws from the combat tracker to targetted PC's.

I do remember that as not happening in the past, but I cannot point to the exact version. So either I have a setting wrong, or somewhere along the way, they element got pear-shaped.

Poobah

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They should be able to shouldn't they?
It is their character doing the rolling technically, not the npc.

No, it's actually the GM doing the rolling. The GM's dice are used and only the GM sees the results. This is akin to a GM rolling behind the screen in a live game. Even though the character is making the save, a GM has the right to roll instead of a player (especially to hide the fact that a save is being made).

It was hidden previously; I use hidden saves quite a bit and have never had a player indicate that they knew they were making a save.

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Originally Posted by Nickademus

No, it's actually the GM doing the rolling. The GM's dice are used and only the GM sees the results. This is akin to a GM rolling behind the screen in a live game. Even though the character is making the save, a GM has the right to roll instead of a player (especially to hide the fact that a save is being made).

It was hidden previously; I use hidden saves quite a bit and have never had a player indicate that they knew they were making a save.

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Very true John,

In my games, the DM rolls the saves for the NPC's spells. If not, it's too easy for players to then see the rolls and then discern the level of the caster they are facing. Meta-game issues can arise from the information disclosed. While this debate could be carried on endlessly on another forum, I for one, would prefer to describe the events happening to the players instead of announcing to the players .... "Make a DC 19 Dexterity Saving Throw vs. a spell". too much information is being disclosed....

Can you confirm the bug/error John? In 5e, try to have an NPC target a group of PC's and then roll the spell save from the Combat tracker. My players can see the rolls, can yours?

PooBah

sorry, not John, I confused the Avatar.....

Speaking of 3.3.0... it fixes the extremely annoying issue of token placement on maps and facing status being completely messed up upon closing FG and then restarting it. Essentially you have to take a screenshot of your map before you close to use as a reference for the next time you launch FG and find yourself re-populating 85% of your tokens.

When 3.3.0 used to be 3.2.4 I was able to use it to address this nice little undocumented feature, but since 3.2.4 was changed to 3.3.0 nobody can connect unless they are also 3.3.0... which then screws up my players for other games they play in. Is there any way to hot fix a small patch to address this issue if 3.3.0 itself is going to be in a longer holding pattern as seems likely?

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Originally Posted by poobah_1

You might want to check out the options for hiding dice rolls.

I was testing out the 3.3.0 beta and it seemed like the players would have been able to see when the NPC were rolling spell saving throws from the combat tracker to targetted PC's.

I do remember that as not happening in the past, but I cannot point to the exact version. So either I have a setting wrong, or somewhere along the way, they element got pear-shaped.

Poobah

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Yes, I can replicate this. Whatever options are chosen (hide GM dice rolls/show results to clients) the complete saving throw information is showing on the players side including the save being made, the DC and the result. Additionally the actual dice is showing rolling around rather than just a shadow dice.

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Originally Posted by JohnD

Speaking of 3.3.0... it fixes the extremely annoying issue of token placement on maps and facing status being completely messed up upon closing FG and then restarting it. Essentially you have to take a screenshot of your map before you close to use as a reference for the next time you launch FG and find yourself re-populating 85% of your tokens.

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You know, I run plenty of games on 3.2.4 - Castles and Crusades - and have never seen this happen. Is it a 5E thing?

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Originally Posted by Andraax

You know, I run plenty of games on 3.2.4 - Castles and Crusades - and have never seen this happen. Is it a 5E thing?

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I'd say yes but have noticed it in Rolemaster as well.

4e Items button and opening items from the parsed items.

It's currently still broken on test. Opening the "base' items like longsword, for example results in https://puu.sh/v9E4W/e157775768.jpg, with a blank item window, if opened from the button on the right. Opening it from the library works correctly, however.
Magic items DO open correctly from the button on the right, though. It's only the base items that have this issue.

Just breezing through the upcoming changes and additions. This stuff looks great. I am consistently impressed by how this company works so hard to keep making this product so deliciously good. I cheered when I saw that regeneration will now automatically cease after the appropriate damage is applied (for Pathfinder users, that is). Moon, you amazing fellow, thank you so much for all your hard work.

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Originally Posted by JohnD

Speaking of 3.3.0... it fixes the extremely annoying issue of token placement on maps and facing status being completely messed up upon closing FG and then restarting it. Essentially you have to take a screenshot of your map before you close to use as a reference for the next time you launch FG and find yourself re-populating 85% of your tokens.

When 3.3.0 used to be 3.2.4 I was able to use it to address this nice little undocumented feature, but since 3.2.4 was changed to 3.3.0 nobody can connect unless they are also 3.3.0... which then screws up my players for other games they play in. Is there any way to hot fix a small patch to address this issue if 3.3.0 itself is going to be in a longer holding pattern as seems likely?

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I noticed something tonight in my Rolemaster game. When I open the map as GM, if tokens are "missing" (but the square they are/were in still shows as linked to the CT), I have to drag tokens to the map again.

At this point, when players report they cannot see the tokens, they can however see the squares the tokens should be in because they do get the shading indicating linkage back to the CT.

To get the tokens to show up player side, all I have to do is rotate them one position and then they show up, each token "missing" needs to be rotated in this manner individually.

I had recently reported this issue and one of the Devs verified the issue, and it is fixed in what is now 3.3.0... which would be great if 3.3.0 was still 3.2.4.

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Originally Posted by Moon Wizard

[CnC] Race and class records did not provide a lock button, or allow the name to be edited. Fixed.

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Finally got around to playing with this. While I can now unlock and edit the custom "class" records to rename them, and I can drag and drop custom "abilities" I've created within a character sheet onto the class record, if I export class records those abilities all show up "blank" - the contents of the abilities do not export.

Just testing the 5E saving throw issue reported where players can see all saving throws.

If the saving throw is made by a PC that the player owns, then the rolls are shown on that PC machine. This is expected behavior at this point, since the PC is making the save.

I can verify that the save result is displayed on the player message if the Show GM Rolls is enabled, regardless of the show results option. Since the show results option was originally written for attack/damage, I don't think it was ever added. I'll see if I can update the show results option to work with saving throws.

Regards,
JPG

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Originally Posted by Andraax

Finally got around to playing with this. While I can now unlock and edit the custom "class" records to rename them, and I can drag and drop custom "abilities" I've created within a character sheet onto the class record, if I export class records those abilities all show up "blank" - the contents of the abilities do not export.

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Hmm... I never export so I didn't even consider this. My NPCs in the U1 remaster have "ability" links just like PCs do. I was hoping to get feedback on that once it goes live in the store (or is it already? we don't get notified of such things) but I highly suspect those would not export to a custom campaign... Dammit.

The ability links should still export, as long as the ability records are exported at the same time. I'm assuming they are custom story records you created, and dropped a link in the race record description field.

Regards,
JPG

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Originally Posted by Moon Wizard

The ability links should still export, as long as the ability records are exported at the same time. I'm assuming they are custom story records you created, and dropped a link in the race record description field.

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I created abilities records on a PC sheet (I don't know of any other way to create them...) Then I dragged and dropped them onto a class record. When I view them in the original campaign, they are fine.

Then I exported "Classes" to a module. In another campaign, I open the module. When I open the module in that new campaign and click on a link in the class, it comes up blank.

Original Campaign: Attachment 18509
New Campaign: Attachment 18510

Also, I just noticed that image links in class records do not export, either.

Yeah, they won't export from a PC sheet.

Links within formatted text fields do not chain export on purpose, as it would become very messy quickly and you would never be able to limit exports effectively. And in this case, I would be worried about data integrity, since you would be exporting information into the PC sheet space in the module.

You would have to include abilities as a story entry for now (and export that way), until someone gets a chance to build out abilities as a separately tracked list in the race/class records.

Regards,
JPG

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You would have to include abilities as a story entry for now (and export that way), until someone gets a chance to build out abilities as a separately tracked list in the race/class records.
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You say that as if you aren't that someone *G* (Though maybe Doug does do some real work on occasion :)! )

Lol. Just more an acknowledgement that updating the race records for CnC isn't on my radar right now, and there's not an official developer. So, it's going to be quite a while unless someone else steps up to take over CnC.

Cheers,
JPG

Updates

• [CoreRPG+] Player module output option added to module Export window.
• [CoreRPG+] Reference manual window supports searching for multiple words in any order.
• [5E] Max damage option added to modifier window.
• [5E] Ritual filter added to campaign spells list.
• [5E] Save rolls will provide result text that displays origin actor and will respect results display option.
• [4E] Target defense added to targeted attack notification.
• [4E] Heavy armor check box and skill check penalty will be adjusted when equipping or unequipping armor.
• [CoreRPG+] Story navigation missing after loading module and accessing story through library window, instead of campaign story list. Fixed.
• [CoreRPG+] In campaign lists, if 101 records in list, the second page was not displayed as expected. Fixed.
• [CoreRPG+] Token decorations (health bars, effect icons, ...) would sometimes not appear for players on image load. Fix attempted.
• [PFRPG/3.5E/d20M] Added Skip option to On/Off button for combat tracker effects.
• [PFRPG/3.5E] Natural armor AC effects not taking into consideration existing natural armor bonuses for PCs. Fixed.
• [DEV][CoreRPG+] ImageManager script added to handle common image-token script interactions, and to address sporadic missing token decorations for players.
• [DEV] Module - Added player output parameter to export function

Regards,
JPG

As a quick note, we're planning to release v3.3.0 on Thursday, whether or not the Paizo material is ready for launch.

This will be the last updates unless a bug is found in the next couple days.

Regards,
JPG

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Originally Posted by Moon Wizard

The ability links should still export, as long as the ability records are exported at the same time. I'm assuming they are custom story records you created, and dropped a link in the race record description field.

Regards,
JPG

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The other guys answered their methods, but for my NPCs in U1 Remaster... nope! I created <abilities> just like PCs use, and linked from there to the NPC sheet instead of writing an essay on the NPC sheet.

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Originally Posted by Moon Wizard

Lol. Just more an acknowledgement that updating the race records for CnC isn't on my radar right now, and there's not an official developer. So, it's going to be quite a while unless someone else steps up to take over CnC.

Cheers,
JPG

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I'd be all over that once I improve my badly lacking LUA skills.

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Originally Posted by Moon Wizard

As a quick note, we're planning to release v3.3.0 on Thursday, whether or not the Paizo material is ready for launch.

This will be the last updates unless a bug is found in the next couple days.

Regards,
JPG

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Yay Thursday.

Updates

• [CoreRPG+] When adding encounters that specify tokens which are not available, the encounter add fails and generates script error. Fixed.
• [5E][EXAMPLE] Updated tokens to use generic versions in case user had not entered user name in Settings yet to get 5E versions.

JPG

Updates

• Module tokens used within module data records were doubled if token file names used uppercase letters (only within vault). Fixed.

JPG

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Originally Posted by Moon Wizard

As a quick note, we're planning to release v3.3.0 on Thursday, whether or not the Paizo material is ready for launch.

This will be the last updates unless a bug is found in the next couple days.

Regards,
JPG

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Lost my bet on this, I thought for sure someone would come along and start screaming "PATHFINDER THURSDAY! CONFIRMED!" when you said nothing of the sort...

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Originally Posted by Talyn

Lost my bet on this, I thought for sure someone would come along and start screaming "PATHFINDER THURSDAY! CONFIRMED!" when you said nothing of the sort...

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Pathfinder on FG this Thursday? That's great news! So excited!!!!

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Originally Posted by Talyn

Lost my bet on this, I thought for sure someone would come along and start screaming "PATHFINDER THURSDAY! CONFIRMED!" when you said nothing of the sort...

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I'm actually surprised at the reading comprehension and levelheadedness of this forum community.

"For each action, there is an equal and opposite reaction".

I guess this forum is the reaction to all the "friendly online comments" that one can find on the interwebs...

v3.3.0 has been pushed live, and I'm closing thread. If you have any further reports, please add a new thread to House of Healing.

Thanks,
JPG