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Hugely out of date. I spoke to the chap at the ProFantasy booth at GenCon and told him to extract the digit and get better tutorials out. He agreed but whether we ever see them or not is a different story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trenloe
I can't remember all of the stuff but they have added a lot of tools (especially in CC3+) that does things in a more streamlined way.
Agreed, I love CC3 now that I'm actually learning to use it well. I can knock out a decent map in a few hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by dudeslife
All the maps I've done in this thread were done in CC3.
Only gripe I have with CC3+ right now is it doesn't support the Cartographer's Annuals, which sucks since my favorite mapping style is Jon Robert's one (and it's free at that!) from CA54. So for now I'm still working in CC3.
Two quick suggestions if I might :P
Put the lava pool and the loot piles on the "SYMBOLS FLAT" sheet to get rid of the drop shadow (or, if you still want a slight shadow, I think Mike Schley's style has a "SYMBOLS LOW" sheet as well). Second, try not to start and stop walls on corners. You get that strange chunk where they meet on the corner, especially after turning on sheet effects. I still forget this one and kick myself when I draw a complex "single" wall :/.
yeah, that was drawn the day I got the program so I haven't even begun to learn the finer points yet. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kalnaren
That's awesome. It took me nearly a year of owning the software and tinkering with it before it finally "clicked" with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by dudeslife
yeah I don't get stressed with the sheets if I forget. I just go back and edit the properties of the object and put it on the correct sheet. I just can't believe there aren't more current videos. I guess the people who mastered it are too busy making maps to share the info in video tutorials. :) I pledge to make videos when I master it if someone doesn't beat me too it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kalnaren
I pledge to WATCH said tutorials immediately. I find CC3+ a bit frustrating, and the tutorials done by the CC3 people aren't the greatest.Quote:
Originally Posted by dudeslife
How about each one of us find one part we're each very good at, and make a video of just that part.
I'll make a video of watching other people's videos, as I've become adept at that aspect of map-making.
Dave
I find Joe Sweeney's tutorials incredibly useful and I wouldn't be doing much in CC3 without having spent time going through them: https://www.youtube.com/user/joesweeney88Quote:
Originally Posted by rob2e
Sweeny's are ok, but I need more (perspective).
The videos will give you most of the ground work and some of the advanced options. All other functionality can be got from the user guides that come with the relevant product/add-on and from guidelines in the Profantasy forums. Yeah, it would be great if there were 1000 videos out there showing you how to do every little thing, but there aren't and there won't be - Profantasy or the community won't make videos for every single thing. Don't let the fact that there isn't a video showing you everything stop you from using (and learning) the product.Quote:
Originally Posted by rob2e
Follow the videos - don't just watch them, follow along in CC3, pausing as you go and try the processes. If you don't want to specifically produce the map that they're doing in the tutorial, do it anyway - you'll learn the processes and more besides. Just watching the video doesn't do this anywhere near that degree.
Then do the same with the user guides - they are designed to take you step-by-step through the functionality while actually drawing a map.
It's a complex beast CC3, no doubt. You have to spend the time to get to know it. I find the videos were excellent for me and gave me all of the base knowledge and some advanced that allowed me to fly through the user guides. Of course, we all learn differently, but I'd recommend revisiting the videos - with time set aside to go through them properly. If you're expecting to fly through videos and be drawing a fantastic map in 15 minutes then CC3 isn't for you.
Yeah, currently going through City Designer tutorial by Gandwarf.
Cool. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rob2e
For those that might want an alternative to CC3 (which I also own) have a look at https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...-world-creator.
I have backed this and spent some time at GenCon talking to Joe (the programmer) about it. I have also used hexographer and find it much easier to use than a CAD based program. The new stuff should be even more refined and easier to use. I love the child feature which will allow you to drill down thru 4 levels of the map with just a click so that you can create the world, the continent, kingdom and province to really add detail to it.
I asked about the Dungeonographer software and he said they do have plans to also update that next year with much of what they learn from the new Worldographer.
I like their classic style maps better than I like the new ones :) Old school - huzzah!Quote:
Originally Posted by jshauber
This tutorial was the one that finally made CC3 make sense to me.
I went through it and made the map with the video. Don't know what it was, but that did it. Everything else I've learned about the program has just been experimenting.
I've messed around a bit with Cityographer. Haven't decided if I like it better than CD3 for doing quick city maps. CD3 is certainly more powerful put it takes a really long time to do even a decent town map in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by jshauber
A very cool video by our very own Xorn. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kalnaren
I've just installed it and it works.Quote:
Originally Posted by kalnaren
- Download the ZIP file from here: https://www.profantasy.com/annual/20...rtsDungeon.zip
- Extract the ZIP file to your CC3+ data directory, usually C:\ProgramData\Profantasy\CC3Plus
- Run the regadd.bat file.
Then off you go. :)
I had this same problem. For me it was that CC3, DD3 and others required different versions of something, I think it was Visual Studio.net. At any rate just email support. They are great at getting back to you promptly with step by step instructions.
Not sure which problem you're referring to. Could you clarify please?Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceman
If you are referring to the Visual c++ 12 error, this is from their forums.
(a) Start Wineskin from inside of the newly created Wine wrapper
(b) Go to Tools, choose Winetricks
(c) Press the Update Winetricks button
(d) At the top type xml in the search, expand the dll group and put a check in msxml3, then click Run to install MS XML Core Services 3.0
(e) At the top type vcrun in the search, expand the dll group and put a check in vcrun2013, then click Run to install Visual C++ 2013 libraries
(f) Now install CC3+ using the guide posted at the top of the thread
I saw that but they don't say when it was updated last. It doesn't mention CC3+ in the description.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nylanfs
It's for CC3, but 99% of the contents is completely relevant to CC3+. Well worth the purchase (IMHO).Quote:
Originally Posted by dudeslife
I have never heard a bad word about the Tome of Mapping. It's #2 on my list of PF products to buy (after DD).
It won't install unless it finds CC3, but it's just a .pdf, and I think that's included as part of the downloads. You just won't get any of the example files.
Other things not listed in there is the stuff from Inkwell Ideas. I actually really like Cityographer. It's not as powerful as CD3, but you can create a passable city or town significantly faster. It also populates everything with NPCs, shows with inventory, and the like.
I did this one pretty quick, about 90% of it was "automatic" and I spent maybe 10 minutes customizing it (Imgur link because it's big).
It's a great video by Xorn - it took him 23 minutes to create the map. I've just followed it in CC3+ with the free Jon Robert's Annual (#54) style (as per the video). Attached is my result (Post processed in GIMP! JPG at 50% quality).Quote:
Originally Posted by kalnaren
Attachment 15009
And here's the same map quickly put together using the Naomi VanDoren style from this year's May annual: https://www.profantasy.com/annual/2016/may16.html
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Here's yet another version. :)
https://i.imgur.com/M3OoomJ.jpg
What are the effects settings on your walls? They look so much better than the default.
Courtesy of Mr Schley - very nice. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kylania
For which map? Jon Roberts or Naomi VanDoren style?Quote:
Originally Posted by kylania
I have a hardback copy some where around hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Trenloe
My wife has told me that I can no longer read this thread. Every time someone posts a map they made in or talks about how awesome CC3 is it makes me eye up the software just a little bit more. :D
Your wife is a smart woman NtoRussellCrowe and as long as she keeps gaming with you do whatever she tells you.Quote:
Originally Posted by NotRussellCrowe
NotRussleCrowe you really should buy the software. FOR YOUR WIFE!
"Happy Anniversary Honey!"
Hilarious!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nylanfs
Mine was nice to get me CC3 and some add ons sometime ago....she just didn't know she did ��
Different map, but for Mike Schley's style i dropped he bevel on the walls significantly:
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8710/...4819d760_h.jpg
Very nice, thanks for sharing. I like the outhouse - I was just thinking the one in Xorn's tutorial video didn't have one. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by kalnaren
That outhouse is too permanent. The reason that outhouses were so flimsy was to make them light enough to move (or rebuild in case of methane explosion). They just dug a deep hole and put it over it and when it got within a couple of feet of being full would cover it and move to a new location. Hence the portability.