Tenians Language Chat Extension for select FG 3.0 rulesets

ah I'm sorry for not being clear :o
What I was referring to was since you can set languages, if it was possible to set a font for a language like I thought I read (or must have been dreaming), example: someelvishscript.ttf using /setlanguage elven someelvishscript
Or is it limited to JUST the ones in the extension.
As to the request, I highly appreciate it and thanks for the info in regards to what happened. I personally don't have much issue about it either way, but figure to chime in for the group in regards to it.

you can open up the extension and add your own fonts...
rename .mod to .zip and extract
use notepad++ to view/edit/tinker with files.
when you zip them back up again do not zip the parent folder - the files should be in the root of the zip
rename the zip to mod

make sure windows is not hiding the .mod/.zip extensions or you are likely to get confused....

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Originally Posted by damned

use notepad++ to view/edit/tinker with files.

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Love it! :D

To expand on what damned is saying here: Fantasy Grounds needs a definition of a font within an XML file - this definition specifies the font file to use, what colour the text will be and the name FG will use to refer to that font.

You can "tinker" with the extension XML files - opening extension.xml you'll see that it is pretty much a list of FG font names and their corresponding file (in the extension). For example:

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<font name="elven">
        <fgffile name="fonts/dnd4eelvish-regular-14.fgf" />
        <color value="#000000" />
</font>

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Note that the font file is an FG font file - you can use the FG Font Generator tool available here (at the bottom of the page) to convert Truetype fonts into .FGF bitmap font files: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/wiki/...veloper_Guides

FG now support Truetype fonts in certain controls - I'm not sure if they are fully supported in the chat window, I've done some basic tests and they appear to be but haven't done extensive tests for this extension. If you're trying a TrueType font you'll need to specify the size to use in the FG font defintion, I'd recommend using 14. Here's an example of one of the two TrueType fonts used in the CoreRGP ruleset, note the addition of the size parameter:

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<font name="reference-h">
        <ttf file="graphics/fonts/MarcellusSC-Regular.ttf" name="Marcellus SC" size="24" />
        <color value="#660000" />
</font>

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So, if you wanted to add your own fonts to this extension you would have to:

1. Add your supported font file to the extension.
2. Add a font definition to extension.xml that references this new font - use the name you want to use as the default language.
3. Package your extension back up and activate it for the campaign you want to use it in.

Note: The extension currently uses community commons fonts which can be legally distributed (see the sources.txt file in the extension). If you modify the fonts being used please do so only for your own use (your own private games), only distribute font files that you have permission to distribute.

Apologies - that was the first extension I ever made any successful modifications to...
I did only add extra languages and not change any fonts...

Thus - I could just "tinker" with it!

Interesting. Thanks all!

Has this been updated for 3.0.12 ? I just started my new campaign and was surprised to see that this extension isn't working anymore.

Thanks for the help, I really liked this extension.

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Originally Posted by Vogard7A

Has this been updated for 3.0.12 ? I just started my new campaign and was surprised to see that this extension isn't working anymore.

Thanks for the help, I really liked this extension.

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It shouldn't need updating. What isn't working? Do you get any error messages? What ruleset are you using?

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Originally Posted by Vogard7A

Has this been updated for 3.0.12 ? I just started my new campaign and was surprised to see that this extension isn't working anymore.

Thanks for the help, I really liked this extension.

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I love seeing players/GMs come out into the open!
Welcome Vogard7A! Although you have been here for 2years already we have only just met :)

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Originally Posted by Trenloe

It shouldn't need updating. What isn't working? Do you get any error messages? What ruleset are you using?

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I'm using the 3.5 ruleset. No error messages, just /lang {language} {text} doesn't do anything, it just brings up the help command.

I have it saved in Fantasy Grounds/extensions I thought about saving it in Fantasy Grounds/campaigns/[My Campaign]/extensions but there's no extensions folder there by default. Do you think I should create a folder for that?

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Originally Posted by damned

I love seeing players/GMs come out into the open!
Welcome Vogard7A! Although you have been here for 2years already we have only just met :)

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Thanks, I'm mostly just a user, not active on the forums as you can tell, lol.

When you start up the campaign, do you get a message in the chat window saying the extension is loaded?

I seem to have solved the problem, thanks for the help!

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Originally Posted by Vogard7A

I'm using the 3.5 ruleset. No error messages, just /lang {language} {text} doesn't do anything, it just brings up the help command.

I have it saved in Fantasy Grounds/extensions I thought about saving it in Fantasy Grounds/campaigns/[My Campaign]/extensions but there's no extensions folder there by default. Do you think I should create a folder for that?



Thanks, I'm mostly just a user, not active on the forums as you can tell, lol.

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If you are not the GM you cant load the extension - only the GM loads extensions.

I picked up the extension for use in my 5e campaign but when i try to type in different languages the different fonts are not showing up, the words are just coming up as random letters and numbers. Is there a separate font file i need to find to add the different fonts to fantasy grounds or am i just missing something.

Michael

Edited : I take that back im just a very special person.. when i first attempted to speak elven i was typing out /lang elvish who goes there. But ive got it now. Very awsome extenion this is going to be fun when we play tommorow.

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Originally Posted by msouthward

I picked up the extension for use in my 5e campaign but when i try to type in different languages the different fonts are not showing up, the words are just coming up as random letters and numbers. Is there a separate font file i need to find to add the different fonts to fantasy grounds or am i just missing something.

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You don't need to load anything else. Please provide a screenshot showing this happening to help troubleshoot.

The languages need to be ones that are known to the extension. There is a way to create a custom list, it is described in this thread.

Trenloe, I did a 5E compatibility pass and updated this extension for use in my game. There are currently issues in that in 5E they changed the names of several languages, ie Dwarven is now Dwarvish; Elven is now Elvish; Gnome is now Gnomish and that is how the language is called when the race is dropped on the character sheet. Since this is a multi-ruleset package I just added the new language names and used the same fonts. I can send you the update if you want.

Trenloe, I feel an update coming to this extension...
Star Wars Language Fonts

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Originally Posted by Griogre

Trenloe, I did a 5E compatibility pass and updated this extension for use in my game. There are currently issues in that in 5E they changed the names of several languages, ie Dwarven is now Dwarvish; Elven is now Elvish; Gnome is now Gnomish and that is how the language is called when the race is dropped on the character sheet. Since this is a multi-ruleset package I just added the new language names and used the same fonts. I can send you the update if you want.

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I was just looking at the 5E languages in the PHB earlier today. If you could send me the update that would be great and I'll look to incorporate it into a general release. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by ianmward

Trenloe, I feel an update coming to this extension...
Star Wars Language Fonts

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Thanks for the link.

Post #1 updated with version 3.3c which includes 5E languages from page 123 of the PHB. Thanks Griogre. I also added primordial and deepspeech (no space) and changed the common font to a Greek font (much better then the previous script, IMHO).

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Originally Posted by ianmward

Trenloe, I feel an update coming to this extension...
Star Wars Language Fonts

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Oh yes, please! :D

That would be so great for my "campaign" starting next Tuesday :D :D :D.

So this is listed as 3.0.11 compatible in the extension list, and 3.0.12 compatible in this thread. Any word on 3.1.0 compatibility?

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Originally Posted by Nickademus

So this is listed as 3.0.11 compatible in the extension list, and 3.0.12 compatible in this thread. Any word on 3.1.0 compatibility?

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It should be fine as it uses all it's own code without modifying any base ruleset scripts. Haven't tested it yet though... Let me know if there are any issues.

@Trenloe: I cant seem to use the slashhandler commands "/setlanguage, /removelanguage and /listlanguages" - each time I try I receive an error:

Attachment 10581

I'm running FG through Steam, and the version is v.3.1.1 ULTIMATE.

Is this just a matter of version disparity?

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Originally Posted by Dromonster

@Trenloe: I cant seem to use the slashhandler commands "/setlanguage, /removelanguage and /listlanguages" - each time I try I receive an error:

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I think you're encountering this issue: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...l=1#post170402

Update - V3.4. 8th August 2015.

Feature update:

1. Added code for understanding all languages but can't speak them. Use a language name of "comprehend languages" or "understands all" on the character sheet. See post #1 for how to use this.
2. Added code for speaking all languages. Use a language name of "tongues" or "speaks all" on the character sheet. See post #1 for how to use this.
3. Added error handling for /setlanguage - needs two arguments to write to database. This avoids issues with blank entries.
4. /help slashhandler to return extension help.
5. Set default current language with /currentlanguage <language name>. See post #1 for how to use this.

Loads of thanks to Callum for providing the tongues/comp languages code ages ago - I completely forgot about it and only just implemented it. Thanks Callum, sorry for letting it lapse so long...

This is fine stuff Trenloe; kudos on the updates and the time you put into this and your other extensions.

Hmm I have the latest download for this extenstion and running the 5e rule set. All I get are a random mix of numbers and letters. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!! Also running v 3.1.2.

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Originally Posted by DaffyRoth

Hmm I have the latest download for this extenstion and running the 5e rule set. All I get are a random mix of numbers and letters. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!! Also running v 3.1.2.

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What is the exact language names you are using?

You need to use the specifically defined language names (see post #1 for the names to use) or define your own that map to the predefined ones. See here for more info: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...l=1#post167105

You know what, I am stupid. I was saying dwarven instead of dwarvish and elven instead of elvish. PROBLEM SOLVED!!!

FYI, a version of this will be built in with FG 3.1.3.

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Originally Posted by kylania

FYI, a version of this will be built in with FG 3.1.3.

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Yep, sure will and it looks good.

However, there will still be a place for this extension for a number of reasons:

1. There are wider range of language/fonts available. Especially supporting Pathfinder Golarion languages.
2. Support for spells/abilities that allow understanding/speaking all languages.
3. Ability to custom map languages to specific fonts.
4. Ability to export custom mapping to a module.

I hope most of the above will be covered in future versions of the native language functionality.

The main advantage to the CoreRPG based language functionality is the drop down box at the chat window and the ability to add in languages through a graphical interface (although these custom languages don't use any fonts, just work scrambling).

1. The challenge I had with adding the ability to map languages to custom fonts is that there is no mechanism to "add" new fonts by the end user, and the name necessary to select a font is the actual font asset name defined by the ruleset or extension (which is not obvious to end users). Therefore, I was thinking this would be better managed by extensions that plug into the existing system with minimal coding. Also, it wasn't clear that all the fonts being used in the extension were free to use commercially, which led me to again push that to extensions.

2. If a character has one of the following entries in their language list, it is treated as special case:
* Speaks all
* Understands all
* Comprehend languages
* Polyglot
* Tongues

3. See 1) above.

4. I'm not sure what this means, but it probably would again fall to answer to 1) because of font licensing and font name management.

I'm open to something more advanced, but it might be worth building extension that just adds entries into GameSystem.languages in the onInit call (which I think is all that is needed to add new entries via extension, but I haven't tried yet).

Cheers,
JPG

I can't believe I overlooked this extension/feature all this time. I could really make good use of it especially with the ability to use the /setlanguage option to add custom languages. Time to add in all those Hârn languages. :bandit:

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Originally Posted by GunnarGreybeard

Time to add in all those Hârn languages. :bandit:

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Awesome!

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Originally Posted by Moon Wizard

1. The challenge I had with adding the ability to map languages to custom fonts is that there is no mechanism to "add" new fonts by the end user, and the name necessary to select a font is the actual font asset name defined by the ruleset or extension (which is not obvious to end users). Therefore, I was thinking this would be better managed by extensions that plug into the existing system with minimal coding. Also, it wasn't clear that all the fonts being used in the extension were free to use commercially, which led me to again push that to extensions.

2. If a character has one of the following entries in their language list, it is treated as special case:
* Speaks all
* Understands all
* Comprehend languages
* Polyglot
* Tongues

3. See 1) above.

4. I'm not sure what this means, but it probably would again fall to answer to 1) because of font licensing and font name management.

I'm open to something more advanced, but it might be worth building extension that just adds entries into GameSystem.languages in the onInit call (which I think is all that is needed to add new entries via extension, but I haven't tried yet).

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With the recent updates to 3.1.3 most of these are now covered.

1) Understand the need to only have verified fonts that could be use commercially.
2) That's great!
3) Looks like this is now covered.
4) It would be nice to have some way of exporting custom language mapping (now that campaign languages can be assigned alternative fonts). This will allow a module to be made of languages for a specific RPG and/or setting. No need to do the custom languages each time a new campaign is created.

I just came across this extension and love it! However, if this is going to be baked into a future version of FG, I hope it makes it easier to enter commands into the chat window. Basically, I need the ability to drag a language from a PC or NPC sheet to the chat window, and it automatically switch to that character and do the /lang <language> command, so all I need to do is type in the text. I hope this makes sense and it's in the new version.

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Originally Posted by Mixylplyx

I just came across this extension and love it! However, if this is going to be baked into a future version of FG, I hope it makes it easier to enter commands into the chat window. Basically, I need the ability to drag a language from a PC or NPC sheet to the chat window, and it automatically switch to that character and do the /lang <language> command, so all I need to do is type in the text. I hope this makes sense and it's in the new version.

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need is such a strong descriptor!

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Originally Posted by Nickademus

(Oh and by the way, you can drag story entries to the chat box and hit enter to have them process this way already. If someone really wanted the /lang or /mood in a chunk of boxed text, they could drag to the chat box instead of the chat window.)

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Wow, knowing this makes this extension so much better. I can setup all my story text ahead of time. This will be great! My players better learn Giant real quick. :D

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by kuthulu

Wow, knowing this makes this extension so much better. I can setup all my story text ahead of time. This will be great! My players better learn Giant real quick. :D

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v3.1.3 of FG will have most of the functionality of this extension built in - with a drop-down list of supported languages to select from. Therefore, the need for this extension will basically go away.

Smiteworks can't distribute all of the fonts used in this extension as part of their commercial offering, so I'll more than likely be doing an extension that covers the non-default fonts supplied with FG. This will help cover Pathfinder languages, etc..