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I saw that in the video..marvelous! :) I am weak..I will probably buy this anyway even if just for our friends who are moving away...sighs. At the very least, they could join us at guild meetings since our venue does have wireless. That would be fun.
Sorry I do not mean to be negative, but that option (subscription) has little to no value to me. The lack of a true floating license has lead me to find other software options. I like the program and continue to poke my head in from time to time to see how things are going, but for actual play I have moved on.
Have you considered a third tier of client for the floating license? Make the floating license to only work when connected to a running server. Eliminate the character creation portion. Find a way to provide a reason for a regular player to want their own lite client. But for me to have to ask folks to buy a full license to find if the play style is interesting to them has been a very unsuccessful model.
Pikup
I did end up buying this and three licenses for my family and friends. But when I posted about FG on the forum for our role play guild, I received links to free tabletops. I like FG better but I can't get them to try out FG if they can use something free..which is too bad because the price really isn't high for software. A floating license has the advantage of allowing the player to try out the software with limitations and possibly become interested enough in the extras that they forgo the free software. I don't mind paying for a floating license as a GM because I enjoy the time with my friends. Its worth more than a couple movie tickets to me.
If I may be so bold as to suggest a referral program as well?
If a player were to purchase a lite (or full) license because they played off a GM's floating license, extend that GM an extra month's worth of floating licence. They're clearly making an effort to sell more product.
I think Riven brings up a very good idea there. If a GM is bringing new players to FG2 who buy their own Lite/Full license, then it seems like giving them another month to try and bring someone else in free would be a nice referral.
I am really sorry, but this alternative to a floating license does not appeal to me.
I would buy as many as 6 floating licenses, if there was the option.
Any kind of monthly charge, or similar, simply wont work (for me at least)
I think the floating licenses could even be more expensive than a lite or full license, I would still buy it.
Yea, I read over this whole thing and decided not to rock the boat. But I agree with you, this is NOT a floating license system, and why fight it? I'm just going to ignore that it exists, and go about my life like nothing is changing. I will just stick with the players I have, and not bother my time or effort in bringing new players into the system, cause I sure as f**k am not paying a monthly fee to sell fantasy grounds for smite works, without getting some sort of benefit out of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by johniba
At first the idea seemed great, but ...... sigh.
In Ged's first post in this thread he mentioned affiliate points for GMs. I kind of assumed that this was the sort of thing he was talking about.
Spyke
I assume you are correct, however looking at the prices they are suggesting right now it's really not that great of a perk. From the data we have at this moment (we know its going to change, and hopefully for the better) if you run a gaming table of 6 players, on a large scale rotation to try and help sell Fantasy Grounds (what I was looking at doing) I will have to pay $30 a month every month.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyke
I assume the affiliate program will change this some, but who knows how much. How many sales do you need to generate before a license becomes free that month? How are they going to accurately track referrals? for that matter what happens if I start a game at 10PM on April 30th, and it lasts until 2AM on May 1st? Do I get charged for both April and May for one game?
The only information we know at this point is that it will come with a monthly fee, and that is already a strike against it in my book. Why cant I just pay my $150, get 6 lite keys, plug them into my DM server, and let people connect that way? No key is getting used more than once at any given point in time, and everything is clean and simple.
We don't have any 'Data' right now.
Right now people are thinking out loud. This should be a simple dialogue of ideas and suggestions. Say what you want but stay civil and don't expect that everyone will be pleased all the time.
I don't sell this game, I just share what I like with people who ask - sometimes that's Fantasy Grounds 2. It isn't any skin off my nose if they find it too expensive - that's their decision.
I just can't understand people who are posturing or implying they will oppose Smite Works based on anything that happens here. Its closed source commercial software. It has to make money somehow. You can always vote with your feet, but for most people its simply better than the alternatives and I find it a good deal.
I just shared a game with a friend I've known for 20+ years on his birthday. We both have families and live in different cities. It was a good game largely because Fantasy Grounds works well.
I'm not going to debate price. I care, but not so much. Its a one time thing. I would like to ask people to look for solutions not squabble. Expect that the company has its own goals. If they gave it away they wouldn't be a company would they? Try and find shared goals where profit and value are not incompatible.
And have a good night. Its my friend's birthday dammit!
Sigurd