Better Combat Effects

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Originally Posted by rhagelstrom

Can you point me to something specific that I can use as a use case?

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Tasha's Hideous Laughter
Dominate Beast
Dominate Person
The charm effects from a succubus.

There are other examples, but those are some of the common ones. I specify having a version that also prompts advantage because effects like Tasha's Hideous Laughter cause you to to make damage-triggered saves against it with advantage.

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Originally Posted by ShadowedHand

It was mentioned a few pages back, but SAVEA does not seem to work still, just me?

Here is the context in which I am attempting to use it. The SAVES and damage work great.
Spirit Guardians; AURA: 15 foe; Spirit Guardians; IF: FACTION(foe); SAVEA: WIS [SDC] (M) (H); SAVES: WIS [SDC] (M) (H); SAVEDMG: 3d8 radiant; (C)

I have also attempted to use the SAVEA by itself, but still nada. No errors are presenting in the Console

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I use the following and it triggers as is both when they move into it and at the start of the turn. It also works if I drop the SAVEA or drop the SAVES.

AURA: 15 foe; Spirit Guardians; IF: FACTION(notself); SAVEA: WIS [SDC] (M)(H); SAVES: WIS [SDC] (M)(H); SAVEDMG: 3d8 necrotic,spell,magic

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Originally Posted by nephranka

I use the following and it triggers as is both when they move into it and at the start of the turn. It also works if I drop the SAVEA or drop the SAVES.

AURA: 15 foe; Spirit Guardians; IF: FACTION(notself); SAVEA: WIS [SDC] (M)(H); SAVES: WIS [SDC] (M)(H); SAVEDMG: 3d8 necrotic,spell,magic

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Yep! good call, that works perfectly. All I had to do is change the FACTION to (notself) and its working. I was a bit worried that it would impact allies, but the AURA: 15 foe keeps that from being an issue I think.

Thanks nephranka!

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Originally Posted by ShadowedHand

Yep! good call, that works perfectly. All I had to do is change the FACTION to (notself) and its working. I was a bit worried that it would impact allies, but the AURA: 15 foe keeps that from being an issue I think.

Thanks nephranka!

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You are correct. The Aura line puts in on the foes and the notself keeps it off the source. Glad it worked!

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Originally Posted by ShadowedHand

Yep! good call, that works perfectly. All I had to do is change the FACTION to (notself) and its working. I was a bit worried that it would impact allies, but the AURA: 15 foe keeps that from being an issue I think.

Thanks nephranka!

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Wouldn't you still want the (C) at the end?

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Originally Posted by MrDDT

Wouldn't you still want the (C) at the end?

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I'm using (C) in mine, works as intended.

The only thing I changed in my original string is the (notself)

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Originally Posted by MrDDT

Wouldn't you still want the (C) at the end?

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Yes. I had a different configuration before the update to how concentration works in the ext. Good catch.

I've noticed an error when I place the dodge effect on a PC and it expires. It seems to expire correctly after the error is generated. I am placing the effect off of the created effects on the right hand side of effects that are added by the extension I believe.

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Originally Posted by eporrini

I've noticed an error when I place the dodge effect on a PC and it expires. It seems to expire correctly after the error is generated. I am placing the effect off of the created effects on the right hand side of effects that are added by the extension I believe.

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I'm not exactly following. BCE doesn't modify or do anything with Dodge. Are you sure what you are reporting is a BCE issue?

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Originally Posted by rhagelstrom

I'm not exactly following. BCE doesn't modify or do anything with Dodge. Are you sure what you are reporting is a BCE issue?

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Unless I am mistaken (and I may be), BCE has an accompanying bettercombateffects.mod that includes premade enhancements to the effects list window, one of which is a dodge effect that uses BCE with the correct expiration of Dodge. Exhaustion used to be part of that as well before it was pulled into it's own extension.