5E Advanced Effects (items, npcs, characters)

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Originally Posted by MrDDT

I'm going to assume a few things, like it's not temp HP, you only wanted it once a turn, etc.

This code will require

Advanced Effects and Better Combat Effects Gold.


This below goes on the weapon itself.
SDMGADDS: LoveTap; DUSE; ATURN
(Make sure to click action only)


This below goes in the effects list in the top right.
LoveTap;IF:Bloodied; REGENE: 5


DUSE will cause it to disable each attack, ATURN turns it back on at the start of any turn (note this is not start of round, so this can make it happen 2 times in a round, but only once a turn)

This also will heal at the end users turn. There are other ways to automate it but seemed like this one fit the best. You can use REGENA: 5 if you want it to insta heal, however, that can have other issues I've seen.

Let me know how it works out for you.

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I'm glad the above works but I'm confused as to why this doesn't also work... LoveTap on Action Only and then use the provided duration fields to determine duration?

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Originally Posted by septantrionalis

I'm glad the above works but I'm confused as to why this doesn't also work... LoveTap on Action Only and then use the provided duration fields to determine duration?

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I'm not sure exactly what you trying to do.

ACTION ONLY is used for WEAPON ATTACKS only.

So when you use that weapon in combat it will apply the effects in either ATTACK or/and DAMAGE with that weapon only IF ACTION ONLY is checked.

You can use a duration field on effects, but if you are applying Advanced Effects, you can't do a duration as they are either on while equipped or on the Char when put into the CT. (or NPC). There is no duration for this.

If you have questions on how BCEG works, I would post over there and explain what you are asking. I'm not really fully sure what you are trying to do or what is not being understood.

Overall. Advanced Effects do not use duration.

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Originally Posted by MrDDT

I'm not sure exactly what you trying to do.

ACTION ONLY is used for WEAPON ATTACKS only.

So when you use that weapon in combat it will apply the effects in either ATTACK or/and DAMAGE with that weapon only IF ACTION ONLY is checked.

You can use a duration field on effects, but if you are applying Advanced Effects, you can't do a duration as they are either on while equipped or on the Char when put into the CT. (or NPC). There is no duration for this.

If you have questions on how BCEG works, I would post over there and explain what you are asking. I'm not really fully sure what you are trying to do or what is not being understood.

Overall. Advanced Effects do not use duration.

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I'm trying to understand how the Action Only option in 5E Advanced Effects is working. I think the combination of things noted above finally made it click for me...

I had thought...
Action Only meant the action would trigger the effect to be applied as a result of the action. So why couldn't any effect; LoveTap, Dodge, Blinded, Turned, etc. be the applied effect as a result of the action?

Now I'm understanding it to be...
Action Only means the effect is applied for that immediate action only. This would be the equivalent to Fantasy Ground's original Spell/Ability Effects field of Expend = On Next Action. Except Action Only would apply to every action from that weapon.

"Overall. Advanced Effects do not use duration." <- That's confusing, given the fields are built into the window when applying Effect Features to an item. Is the Type field also ignored by 5E Advanced Effects?

If I'm still misunderstanding, tell me. I'll try and discuss on your discord.

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Originally Posted by septantrionalis

I'm trying to understand how the Action Only option in 5E Advanced Effects is working. I think the combination of things noted above finally made it click for me...

I had thought...
Action Only meant the action would trigger the effect to be applied as a result of the action. So why couldn't any effect; LoveTap, Dodge, Blinded, Turned, etc. be the applied effect as a result of the action?

Now I'm understanding it to be...
Action Only means the effect is applied for that immediate action only. This would be the equivalent to Fantasy Ground's original Spell/Ability Effects field of Expend = On Next Action. Except Action Only would apply to every action from that weapon.

"Overall. Advanced Effects do not use duration." <- That's confusing, given the fields are built into the window when applying Effect Features to an item. Is the Type field also ignored by 5E Advanced Effects?

If I'm still misunderstanding, tell me. I'll try and discuss on your discord.

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I stand corrected, you CAN use that as a duration, however, I've never used that before. I guess if it's for if you equip something it will only give you that effect while equipped AND for that duration that you put in the dice and mod.
So the dice there is for random duration effect, and mod would be a set effect (or in addition to the dice), unit is for how long it will last.

Remember this is for only from the time it's equipped and stays equipped the whole time.

So again, this wouldn't affect the duration of things you apply through the effect that is already on, this only is affecting the effect that is on the item.
Most items I know do not have their effects expire like this.

You don't equip dodges and blinded etc through your inventory. You would just apply an effect normally that does that. Those effects would have a duration.

Again the duration is ONLY for equipped items duration if that effect has a limited duration. Example would be like a torch.
You pull out a torch that gives you LIGHT: 20/40 torch effect for 1 hour.
After 1 hour the effect will come off, even though you have the torch equipped still.

Now if you using like a magical sword that does DMG: 1d6 fire on all attacks, this would not have a duration at all. (you would turn on action only)

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Originally Posted by celestian

No, if you're having a issue please post specific errors and version you are running. If it's a interaction with another extension I'd point you at that authors thread.

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I thought I replied to this, but apparently it didn't save or I'm just not seeing it :) I'm using the latest version from Forge, it's not an interaction with an extension it does it when it's the only one installed as well as when all my others are on. What happens (at least what I've found so far) when I click to make a roll (attrib roll, saving throw, attacks, damage, skill checks), the roll visually happens, but it doesn't show up in chat and an error pops up... I also can't add enemies to the combat tracker. I can add heroes but nothing from the NPC list. I'm sure I'm forgetting something but that's what I can think of in the moment. :( Attaching the errors from console.log not sure if any others matter.

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Originally Posted by Carpathian

I thought I replied to this, but apparently it didn't save or I'm just not seeing it :) I'm using the latest version from Forge, it's not an interaction with an extension it does it when it's the only one installed as well as when all my others are on. What happens (at least what I've found so far) when I click to make a roll (attrib roll, saving throw, attacks, damage, skill checks), the roll visually happens, but it doesn't show up in chat and an error pops up... I also can't add enemies to the combat tracker. I can add heroes but nothing from the NPC list. I'm sure I'm forgetting something but that's what I can think of in the moment. :( Attaching the errors from console.log not sure if any others matter.

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You might think you're using the latest version, but you are not. You're using v4.9 which is from March of 2021. We are now up to v5.91 as of last month.
You should check whether you have a second, un-zipped copy in your extensions folder (and delete it if you do).

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Originally Posted by bmos

You might think you're using the latest version, but you are not. You're using v4.9 which is from March of 2021. We are now up to v5.91 as of last month.
You should check whether you have a second, un-zipped copy in your extensions folder (and delete it if you do).

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Sounds like he still has the old .ext in his folder. I would remove all of those and any folders called AdvancedEffects.*

Thanks so much! I'll check that! :)

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Originally Posted by celestian

Sounds like he still has the old .ext in his folder. I would remove all of those and any folders called AdvancedEffects.*

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That was it... I just deleted advanacedeffects.ext and it installed the right version but there weren't any other copies so I have no idea why it didn't get updated LOL

Hello,
I'm trying to implement 5e "Relentless Endurance" feat of Half Orcs as an Advanced Effect in Abilities sheet tab. Before I was using it as a manual effect to be activated by player each time (which works correctly).

Now, I'm using this code on abilities sheet: [IF: unconscious; REGENA: 1]. Means that if an attack reduce the character to 0 Hp it regain suddenly one hit point coming back to life.
I works great like the manual effect I was using before, however the effect itself remains active. See picture below:

1. Before last attack:

Attachment 54121

2. After last attack and Relentless Endurance activation:

Attachment 54122

3. How it should look like

Attachment 54123

Any suggestions? Am I doing something wrong?
I tried to flag the "ActionOnly" as well with no luck.

Thanks!

PS: good news is that even staying as point 2, the relentless endurance feat is not applied anymore, which is correct. So it seems that the effect is canceled but it remains written in combat tracker.

Hellou! This extension helps with the effect of "Bloodwell"? Can I make the "+1 bonus to spell attack rolls and to the saving throw DCs" off the item with this extension?

tks!

Hey there,

I'm having a strange issue with this extension, and bmos' Ammunition Manager extension. Could you please have a look at this post I made about it on his thread and perhaps work with him to figure out where the conflict is happening? It appears to be a recent conflict.

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...l=1#post663180

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Originally Posted by jfg1984

Hey there,

I'm having a strange issue with this extension, and bmos' Ammunition Manager extension. Could you please have a look at this post I made about it on his thread and perhaps work with him to figure out where the conflict is happening? It appears to be a recent conflict.

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...l=1#post663180

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bmos added a update for his part to AE that I've applied and uploaded to the Test channel on the forge if you'd like to verify it's working.

I'll test this as soon as I get home this evening.

So, after having gotten some time this weekend to test it, I can say that as of right now, as of version 3.10 of ammunition manager and version 5.91 of 5E - Advanced effects, the error I described above persists.

Though I confess I'm not sure what "the test channel" is or how to access it.

I just checked for updates prior to launching fantasy grounds and tested the issue once more with only those two extensions loaded.

Hello,

I just download this extension and tried to but when we open a character actions tab it throws a script error and then every ones attacks and damage show as 0. How do we get around this?

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Originally Posted by celestian

bmos added a update for his part to AE that I've applied and uploaded to the Test channel on the forge if you'd like to verify it's working.

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I um, don't know if it's possible for me as a non-Forge crafter ... to access the test channel. I think I only get what's set to the live channel. There isn't any avenue I'm aware of by which I can switch to a test channel version of an extension.

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Originally Posted by jfg1984

I um, don't know if it's possible for me as a non-Forge crafter ... to access the test channel. I think I only get what's set to the live channel. There isn't any avenue I'm aware of by which I can switch to a test channel version of an extension.

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The test channel is not a per-extension thing.
It's an overall program setting found in the FG launcher.
Launcher > Settings > Advanced > Change Live to Test > Save and Update.
When done testing, change it back.

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Originally Posted by bmos

The test channel is not a per-extension thing.
It's an overall program setting found in the FG launcher.
Launcher > Settings > Advanced > Change Live to Test > Save and Update.
When done testing, change it back.

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I understand now, thank you.
I went ahead and loaded up the test version of 5E Advanced Effects (v5.92) and everything appears to be working now! Many thanks!

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Originally Posted by jfg1984

I understand now, thank you.
I went ahead and loaded up the test version of 5E Advanced Effects (v5.92) and everything appears to be working now! Many thanks!

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If thats the case I'll push it to live today.

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Originally Posted by celestian

If thats the case I'll push it to live today.

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Great! Just in time for my game tomorrow!

We appear to have lost the effect text on NPC sheets. You can see here a NPC with an advanced effect, but the effect description is not replicated to the sheet. When dropped on the CT, however, the effect shows up as expected.

Attachment 54771

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Originally Posted by anathemort

We appear to have lost the effect text on NPC sheets. You can see here a NPC with an advanced effect, but the effect description is not replicated to the sheet. When dropped on the CT, however, the effect shows up as expected.

Attachment 54771

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I can confirm this as well. I first I thought I was just going crazy. A very odd bug.

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Originally Posted by nephranka

I can confirm this as well. I first I thought I was just going crazy. A very odd bug.

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But strangely, any effect that you already made prior to the update still show the text they had. It's just new effects, or new modifications to existing effects that won't show up in the effect text on NPC or PC sheets. Very strange indeed.

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Originally Posted by jfg1984

But strangely, any effect that you already made prior to the update still show the text they had. It's just new effects, or new modifications to existing effects that won't show up in the effect text on NPC or PC sheets. Very strange indeed.

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yeah, you can just close the item and re-open it to see that text. it probably only calculates it onInit

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Originally Posted by bmos

yeah, you can just close the item and re-open it to see that text. it probably only calculates it onInit

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Might be something changed. Far as I know this worked previously.

I've got some family events going on right now so I wont be able to look at this until sometime first of next month.

The effect builder also seems to be broken.
Toggling "type" through the various values leaves the description and duration options only.

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Originally Posted by bmos

The effect builder also seems to be broken.
Toggling "type" through the various values leaves the description and duration options only.

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*sigh* yeap. Sometimes I wish I hadn't layered my code on CoreRPG ;(

If you toggle the type, close the effect then open it back up it changes the selection.

Definitely something changed related to the refresh there.

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Originally Posted by celestian

*sigh* yeap. Sometimes I wish I hadn't layered my code on CoreRPG ;(

If you toggle the type, close the effect then open it back up it changes the selection.

Definitely something changed related to the refresh there.

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I had a few moments tonight and I pushed a update that "should" fix it to Live.

For whatever reason it looks like using DB.addHandler(DB.getPath(node, ".effect"),"onUpdate", update); specifically onUpdate no longer works. If I use DB.addHandler(node.getPath(),"onChildUpdate", update); on the entire effect node it does. I used the previous before to reduce the number of triggers... but we'll see how this works until I have more time to look at it.

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Originally Posted by celestian

I had a few moments tonight and I pushed a update that "should" fix it to Live.

For whatever reason it looks like using DB.addHandler(DB.getPath(node, ".effect"),"onUpdate", update); specifically onUpdate no longer works. If I use DB.addHandler(node.getPath(),"onChildUpdate", update); on the entire effect node it does. I used the previous before to reduce the number of triggers... but we'll see how this works until I have more time to look at it.

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There's an extra period there in the original code, if desired you should be able to use DB.addHandler(DB.getPath(node, "effect"), "onUpdate", update); to avoid handling updates to unrelated nodes as would be the case with the "OnChldUpdate" approach.

Any time to upload that change to github?

Also, regarding MeAndUnique's comment, that was how I fixed the issue. Removing the periods was all it took in my port (possible would also work here).

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Originally Posted by MeAndUnique

There's an extra period there in the original code, if desired you should be able to use DB.addHandler(DB.getPath(node, "effect"), "onUpdate", update); to avoid handling updates to unrelated nodes as would be the case with the "OnChldUpdate" approach.

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I've used that version of the call for year+ (.effect). I wonder if they changed something with DB.getPath(). I'll try and test it when I get home if time permits.

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Originally Posted by bmos

Any time to upload that change to github?

Also, regarding MeAndUnique's comment, that was how I fixed the issue. Removing the periods was all it took in my port (possible would also work here).

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I'll do so tonight if I can (after remove the dots ;)

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Originally Posted by celestian

I've used that version of the call for year+ (.effect). I wonder if they changed something with DB.getPath(). I'll try and test it when I get home if time permits.

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They did.

Updated Live channel with fixed .path changes.

Pushed to repo.

I am getting a new error with the same extensions that I have had updated on forge and from dmsguild. This happens anytime I try to drag ana attack from a non magical item in the actions on the NPC sheet.

[10/28/2022 7:52:53 PM] [ERROR] Script execution error: [string "AdvancedEffects:..ipts/char_weapon_adnd.lua"]:50: attempt to call field 'isLoading' (a nil value)

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Originally Posted by webdove

I am getting a new error with the same extensions that I have had updated on forge and from dmsguild. This happens anytime I try to drag ana attack from a non magical item in the actions on the NPC sheet.

[10/28/2022 7:52:53 PM] [ERROR] Script execution error: [string "AdvancedEffects:..ipts/char_weapon_adnd.lua"]:50: attempt to call field 'isLoading' (a nil value)

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Is it happening with no exts?
I'm not having this issue.

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Originally Posted by webdove

Script execution error: [string "AdvancedEffects:..ipts/char_weapon_adnd.lua"]:50: attempt to call field 'isLoading' (a nil value)

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What version of Ammunition Manager and what version of Advanced Effects?

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Originally Posted by MrDDT

I'm not having this issue.

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Are you using it with Ammunition Manager? That code only runs when combined with Ammunition Manager.

sorry, wrong thread - can this be deleted?

Potentially Silly Question

I searched the thread but didn't see an answer to this. If I create items or NPCs with effects added to them in 1 campaign and I export them into my own module to use in a new campaign on my system, will all of the added effects still be with the items in the new campaign or will I need to add everything manually again? I created a campaign just to copy and customize all of the items & NPCs from all of the sources I own, test things, create new silly items or NPCs to torment I mean entertain my players etc but I will want to export everything into my own modules to use in future campaigns to leave my goofing off space open to break at a moment's notice.