[extension] Spell Tokens Extension

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Originally Posted by razzed1

All of my spells are casting at max level. I reparsed the spells, tried the spells from different sources. I even turned off the other extensions, then I tried to just use b9 cor and b9 advanced spell damage.
What can I do?
Thanks!

Side note: I cannot get Spell Tokens to work for me at all. (Pretty sure this is a me problem, but it is frustrating)

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Could you post more info about the spell damage on its actual forum ? Advanced Spell Damage


As for getting spell tokens to work, can you make sure you a up to date with the extensions and fgu as I made some updates over the weekend from the fgu 4.3.3 update.

Could you give me further info on what about spell tokens you can not get working ? ( ie are you using a set of spell tokens like 'Gareth Jensens' set and the top of thread linked 'B9_SpellTokens.xml' file, or are you trying to configure your own graphics in the system ??? )

Thanks, Pete

EDIT: I went back and just re-downloaded everything for Spell Tokens from DMsGuild instead. So far, I can get it to work, but I will continue testing and see if I can find the conflicts.
Thanks!

I may have solved the Spell Damage thing. I shut off all of my extensions and started over. It was a conflict somewhere, still trying to find it.

SPELL TOKENS is not even showing up in my inventory on the forge now. I deleted it out of my extension folder (think that was the old one from DMsGuild, but now I cannot get it to load from teh Forge. Is it still there? The only way I find it is by checking your products page.

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Originally Posted by razzed1

EDIT: I went back and just re-downloaded everything for Spell Tokens from DMsGuild instead. So far, I can get it to work, but I will continue testing and see if I can find the conflicts.
Thanks!

I may have solved the Spell Damage thing. I shut off all of my extensions and started over. It was a conflict somewhere, still trying to find it.

SPELL TOKENS is not even showing up in my inventory on the forge now. I deleted it out of my extension folder (think that was the old one from DMsGuild, but now I cannot get it to load from teh Forge. Is it still there? The only way I find it is by checking your products page.

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Its is still on the forge, try going to your account 'inventory' and finding it in the list... Try using the 'hide' button to hide it, and then un-hide it back... I know some people have lost and re-found extensions like this.

You can clean it out from your extensions folder, the forge version downloads into the vault so will not show up in your files list.. but should in your game extension selection.

-pete

v7.7 release to bring the other ruleset 4/3.5/2/pf/pf2/sf back to functions after the fgu 4.3.3 ruleset update.

-pete

Hi does this extension work with the Rob2e extensions for spell effects?

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Originally Posted by Naplam

Hi does this extension work with the Rob2e extensions for spell effects?

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EDIT: Sorry just noticed this is in the spell tokens thread, I thought you were asking about rob2e spell effects modules that has pre-defined spell data.... Does he now has some form of on map spell effect extension ? ( If so what is it called ??? )


OLD: ( Possible wrong context message... but might be the answer you were after.. )


In the past when it was a module, and before the SW forced the modules to swap the text description for a link, it would. It now tries to resolve the link, if you player has the required source module and it can find the link it copies in the description. See,

Attachment 56516

( I made a copy of the fireball spell and deleted the description and replaced it with a link to the original spell... you can see that with the players handbook loaded it resolved the link back to its text description and adds the extra damage for casting at higher levels... but if the module is not loaded it can not resolve the text and hence has no text to parse for the 'at higher level' section of that text. )

If rob2e now has an actual extension and you are not just referring to his module, then I dont know.. Can you provide a link on forge/dmsguild and I can probably have a look and see if it conflicts or not.

But since I dont have the extension or any of his data, its going to be hard for me to test this.

So I can not provide a yes or no answer.

-pete

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Originally Posted by bratch9

EDIT: Sorry just noticed this is in the spell tokens thread, I thought you were asking about rob2e spell effects modules that has pre-defined spell data.... Does he now has some form of on map spell effect extension ? ( If so what is it called ??? )


OLD: ( Possible wrong context message... but might be the answer you were after.. )


In the past when it was a module, and before the SW forced the modules to swap the text description for a link, it would. It now tries to resolve the link, if you player has the required source module and it can find the link it copies in the description. See,

Attachment 56516

( I made a copy of the fireball spell and deleted the description and replaced it with a link to the original spell... you can see that with the players handbook loaded it resolved the link back to its text description and adds the extra damage for casting at higher levels... but if the module is not loaded it can not resolve the text and hence has no text to parse for the 'at higher level' section of that text. )

If rob2e now has an actual extension and you are not just referring to his module, then I dont know.. Can you provide a link on forge/dmsguild and I can probably have a look and see if it conflicts or not.

But since I dont have the extension or any of his data, its going to be hard for me to test this.

So I can not provide a yes or no answer.

-pete

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I believe Naplam is referring to DM_Tools which works with CAE. I started off using that one, so I have used both of the "Spell Token Extensions." I turned off DM_Tools once I started using B9's system. They involve completely different functionality and pull different constructs onto the PC Actions tab. Certainly, you can use the spell "tokens" themselves from anywhere, and they can be pulled into B9's Spell Token list without any issues. The B9 Spell Token Ext. is bulletproof and easy to use. (Of course, make sure to grab the Spell _Token_21.mod, as it has all the great supporting Tokens.) I also got the Spiritual Weapons Tokens, which has a bunch of great tokens that you can use in a variety of ways.

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Originally Posted by Gawain the Great

I believe Naplam is referring to DM_Tools which works with CAE. I started off using that one, so I have used both of the "Spell Token Extensions." I turned off DM_Tools once I started using B9's system. They involve completely different functionality and pull different constructs onto the PC Actions tab. Certainly, you can use the spell "tokens" themselves from anywhere, and they can be pulled into B9's Spell Token list without any issues. The B9 Spell Token Ext. is bulletproof and easy to use. (Of course, make sure to grab the Spell _Token_21.mod, as it has all the great supporting Tokens.) I also got the Spiritual Weapons Tokens, which has a bunch of great tokens that you can use in a variety of ways.

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Can you link the Spiritual Weapons Tokens so I can take a look... and I can maybe make a xml file for config. ( Or you can export your settings from spell tokens and I can clip them out and drop them at the top of the thread ? )

-pete

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Originally Posted by bratch9

Can you link the Spiritual Weapons Tokens so I can take a look... and I can maybe make a xml file for config. ( Or you can export your settings from spell tokens and I can clip them out and drop them at the top of the thread ? )

-pete

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Sure. Happy to help. I'll try to get to that later on.

(I could send you my spell token settings, but I have ended up making a bunch of my own spell tokens, even for things that aren't "spells" just because I love the options your Extension offers: I have a really cool Barbarian Eagle Rage for the Barbarian in my party. lol)

Here is the link to the additional fun spiritual weapons tokens.

https://www.dmsguild.com/product/323...-Weapon-Tokens

Bought this extension today and I love it. I'm having one small problem. Whenever I drag a line template from the character sheet or the configuration window onto the map, I can only rotate it about 45 degrees and then it stops. No amount of holding shift and scrolling will rotate it further. Worse, I can't move it after that. It's like it gets locked. Rotate left and rotate right token functions aren't working from the radial menu, either.

This is ONLY on lines like lightning bolt, wall of thorns, etc.

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Originally Posted by wframe

Bought this extension today and I love it. I'm having one small problem. Whenever I drag a line template from the character sheet or the configuration window onto the map, I can only rotate it about 45 degrees and then it stops. No amount of holding shift and scrolling will rotate it further. Worse, I can't move it after that. It's like it gets locked. Rotate left and rotate right token functions aren't working from the radial menu, either.

This is ONLY on lines like lightning bolt, wall of thorns, etc.

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That is odd, I'll try and reproduce this later...

-pete

EDIT: I've replicated this, it looks like it might think the token is rotated by 90 degress, you can find the help text from it off the spell token and then rotate with the keys/mouse/radial.. But its a bug I'll look into.

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Originally Posted by Gawain the Great

Sure. Happy to help. I'll try to get to that later on.

(I could send you my spell token settings, but I have ended up making a bunch of my own spell tokens, even for things that aren't "spells" just because I love the options your Extension offers: I have a really cool Barbarian Eagle Rage for the Barbarian in my party. lol)

Here is the link to the additional fun spiritual weapons tokens.

https://www.dmsguild.com/product/323...-Weapon-Tokens

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Ive attached at the top of the thread 'B9_SpiritualWeapons.xml' to cover this set of spell tokens.

My only question is some are called 'Staff' and 'Staff_' and 'Staff_one' (two,three) the names I've used come from the filenames.. Do you have any suggestions for better names for these?

They follow the naming for putting the weapon type in a (NAME) with the spell..

So drag on 'Spiritual Weapon' and rename the to 'Spiritual Weapon (Morodin hammer)' to select the specific graphic. ( Note... due to 'delay text entry for power name' you have to click away from the edited string to say you character name and then 'reparse' + shift key pressed to just update the spell token graphic.

-pete

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Originally Posted by bratch9

Ive attached at the top of the thread 'B9_SpiritualWeapons.xml' to cover this set of spell tokens.

My only question is some are called 'Staff' and 'Staff_' and 'Staff_one' (two,three) the names I've used come from the filenames.. Do you have any suggestions for better names for these?

They follow the naming for putting the weapon type in a (NAME) with the spell..

So drag on 'Spiritual Weapon' and rename the to 'Spiritual Weapon (Morodin hammer)' to select the specific graphic. ( Note... due to 'delay text entry for power name' you have to click away from the edited string to say you character name and then 'reparse' + shift key pressed to just update the spell token graphic.

-pete

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That XML looks great.

As for the few "staffs" you mention. Here are my suggestions:

1. Staff_three_spiritual_weapon.png - Would work well as the Staff of Eternal Domination, related to any of four spells: Focused, Magus, Dancing, Telepathic Link.
2. Staff_two_spiritual_weapon.png - Looks like a good Staff of the Homing Tree, which is related to the Overpower (Dread) spell, and/or the Spell Storing spell.
3. Staff_spiritual_weapon.png - Would work as the Alkilith Staff, related to the Confusion Spell (the demonic Eye would work well for that idea).
4. Staff_for_spiritual_weapon.png - Would work well as the Coral Staff, related to the Bless and Detect Magic spells.
5. Staff_spiritual_weapon_.png - Would work as the Staff of Polarity, related to the Reverse Gravity Spell.
6. blibdoolpoolp_pincher_staff_spiritual_weapon.png - Looks like it was made to be the Pincher Staff, though it doesn't relate to any spells.

I hope those suggestions help, and that I understood what you were looking for. If not, let me know, and I can direct my response more precisely. Great work on your Extension!

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Originally Posted by Gawain the Great

That XML looks great.

As for the few "staffs" you mention. Here are my suggestions:

1. Staff_three_spiritual_weapon.png - Would work well as the Staff of Eternal Domination, related to any of four spells: Focused, Magus, Dancing, Telepathic Link.
2. Staff_two_spiritual_weapon.png - Looks like a good Staff of the Homing Tree, which is related to the Overpower (Dread) spell, and/or the Spell Storing spell.
3. Staff_spiritual_weapon.png - Would work as the Alkilith Staff, related to the Confusion Spell (the demonic Eye would work well for that idea).
4. Staff_for_spiritual_weapon.png - Would work well as the Coral Staff, related to the Bless and Detect Magic spells.
5. Staff_spiritual_weapon_.png - Would work as the Staff of Polarity, related to the Reverse Gravity Spell.
6. blibdoolpoolp_pincher_staff_spiritual_weapon.png - Looks like it was made to be the Pincher Staff, though it doesn't relate to any spells.

I hope those suggestions help, and that I understood what you were looking for. If not, let me know, and I can direct my response more precisely. Great work on your Extension!

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I thought these were all spiritual weapons...

just after better names for eg,
'Spiritual Weapon (Staff Three)' -> 'Spiritual Weapon (Eternal Domination)'

type thing, as they just looked odd not been 'Deity weapon' type for the name...

-pete

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Originally Posted by bratch9

EDIT: I've replicated this, it looks like it might think the token is rotated by 90 degress, you can find the help text from it off the spell token and then rotate with the keys/mouse/radial.. But its a bug I'll look into.

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Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean by the "help text from it off the spell token". I don't see anything except the giant token boundary and I can't even move it. I don't see any way to rotate it at all that works.

I know you're looking into fixing it. I can deal with it until then, I'm just not sure what I'm missing.

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Originally Posted by bratch9

I thought these were all spiritual weapons...

just after better names for eg,
'Spiritual Weapon (Staff Three)' -> 'Spiritual Weapon (Eternal Domination)'

type thing, as they just looked odd not been 'Deity weapon' type for the name...

-pete

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I guess I just look at them as cool tokens to use for whatever purpose/spell I think they fit. lol. I viewed the “spiritual weapons” ID as more of an aesthetic take than a literal application.

(But then I made a boot “spell token” to use for a fighter’s tripping feat.)

Hi, My players find that when spell images are persistent they clutter up the display too much especially when they don't sit on the bottom layer. They prefer simple outlines of the areas of effect. It it possible to get simple outlines easily?
Thx
Web

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Originally Posted by webdove

Hi, My players find that when spell images are persistent they clutter up the display too much especially when they don't sit on the bottom layer. They prefer simple outlines of the areas of effect. It it possible to get simple outlines easily?
Thx
Web

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You can use left+right mouse button without the extension to place pointers on the screen. You can also use the radial to add these pointers. This is the best outline you can get. And things like radial selections can not be attached to these special pointer draw items..

From a 'graphic' point of view like the spell tokens, while the 'alpha' is taken into account for the render, the selection has no idea about the alpha. So the full graphic becomes the selection box. For spell tokens I try and reject selections outside the 'shape' of the token when in side the rectangle the graphic take up. But I can not use any information from the graphic to reduce the selection. ( This did work on FG classic, they have alpha checked selection so it could adjust the hit on the graphic to only visible parts... but FG unity does not do this feature !!! )

From a lua and extension point of view, its not possible for us to ask for a 'pointer' to be drawn. We can take over some of the information about the actual draw of the pointer shape but we can not spawn them onto the screen. only the radial and left+right mouse can 'add a pointer'. I know this because I've been wanting to use the 'pointers' system to draw the outline of the selection around the grid on top of the spell token sprite etc.. Also the way to do these pointers seems to also have changed because the FGU pointers are now 'filled', while the information I know about the custom pointers only creates outlines. ( I've asked for updates to the part documentation thread about custom pointers but no responses about this basically non-documented feature.. )

Its also a pain that spell tokens have to suffer from the same layer pool as tokens, to fix this a low level FGU priority system would need to be exposed. ( Since SW want you to use the spell templates they provide and have to be added by the GM only, that is the 'solution' to spell tokens... basically SW are done with spell tokens its a 'solved' problem in FGU eyes so change requests go into a black hole !! ) Bugs/change/wishlist items have been added going back multiple years to get some movement on token layer control, from many people.

Sorry I can not help more, I'm very limited with what is exposed to extensions and lua. Getting the system to be as usable as it currently is required me to override basically every thing in the image/selection process that is exposed and re-write all the selection and movement code that FGU provide in the c# code in lua to override as much of the system as possible. ( Things like 'locked' token movement approval by DM still dont work as the c# code calls very limited lua api to try and track this and with just the one callback its hard to track start/end drags to track if linked tokens should move other moving tokens.. )

-pete

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Originally Posted by bratch9

You can use left+right mouse button without the extension to place pointers on the screen. You can also use the radial to add these pointers. This is the best outline you can get. And things like radial selections can not be attached to these special pointer draw items..

From a 'graphic' point of view like the spell tokens, while the 'alpha' is taken into account for the render, the selection has no idea about the alpha. So the full graphic becomes the selection box. For spell tokens I try and reject selections outside the 'shape' of the token when in side the rectangle the graphic take up. But I can not use any information from the graphic to reduce the selection. ( This did work on FG classic, they have alpha checked selection so it could adjust the hit on the graphic to only visible parts... but FG unity does not do this feature !!! )

From a lua and extension point of view, its not possible for us to ask for a 'pointer' to be drawn. We can take over some of the information about the actual draw of the pointer shape but we can not spawn them onto the screen. only the radial and left+right mouse can 'add a pointer'. I know this because I've been wanting to use the 'pointers' system to draw the outline of the selection around the grid on top of the spell token sprite etc.. Also the way to do these pointers seems to also have changed because the FGU pointers are now 'filled', while the information I know about the custom pointers only creates outlines. ( I've asked for updates to the part documentation thread about custom pointers but no responses about this basically non-documented feature.. )

Its also a pain that spell tokens have to suffer from the same layer pool as tokens, to fix this a low level FGU priority system would need to be exposed. ( Since SW want you to use the spell templates they provide and have to be added by the GM only, that is the 'solution' to spell tokens... basically SW are done with spell tokens its a 'solved' problem in FGU eyes so change requests go into a black hole !! ) Bugs/change/wishlist items have been added going back multiple years to get some movement on token layer control, from many people.

Sorry I can not help more, I'm very limited with what is exposed to extensions and lua. Getting the system to be as usable as it currently is required me to override basically every thing in the image/selection process that is exposed and re-write all the selection and movement code that FGU provide in the c# code in lua to override as much of the system as possible. ( Things like 'locked' token movement approval by DM still dont work as the c# code calls very limited lua api to try and track this and with just the one callback its hard to track start/end drags to track if linked tokens should move other moving tokens.. )

-pete

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1. What you said triggered a couple of thoughts. Aren’t there simple graphic spell outline tokens that are used if the pretty spell tokens 2.1 module is missing? 2. Is it possible to bulk edit the spell tokens 2.1 pngs to make them much fainter?

Hi,

would these fit the bill?

https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product...tual-Table-Top

These are for PF2e but if you search for Spell Tokens on drivethrurpg there are several different flavours available, and I've just noticed there's a sale on as well so I'm gonna get some different sets.

Hope this helps,

Cheers,

Simon

(also if you use the Natural Selection extension you can force the spell token to the bottom of the pile: https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/953/view )

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Originally Posted by webdove

1. What you said triggered a couple of thoughts. Aren’t there simple graphic spell outline tokens that are used if the pretty spell tokens 2.1 module is missing? 2. Is it possible to bulk edit the spell tokens 2.1 pngs to make them much fainter?

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1. Its possible that simpler tokens do exist. I even provide a script at the top of the page to allow generation of blank tokens of a specific resolution and size. So maybe use that and generate some simple tokens and set up an xml map for these ?

2. I dont own spell tokens 2.1 source graphic image(s), so can not alpha them out and provide those. But again feel free to do this to your downloaded module of spell tokens 2.1. ( For legal reasons I can not edit and supply the adjustment )


So while I understand your comments, I'm not an artist so can not draw these tokens to provide them. ( As I say I provide a script to generate masked single colour tokens at the top of thread.. ) And I obviously can not take other peoples artwork and adjust them. I did ask the owner of spell tokens 2.1 if it was possible to make 'small' versions for icons, which is why the spell tokens extension has an extra graphic space in the configuration. So a icon can be setup and then the player character gets the small icon, which is quicker to sync to the character sheet than the full size which is only needed when dragged onto a map...

Sure these things exist and if you want to get gimp out and adjust graphics then feel free. But I assume people asking for these things just dont have the skill, as a confident artist with the spell tokens 2.1 pack that wanted them fainter would just boot photoshop and bulk edit the files they have. It would take less time for an artist to fix the issue than create a message and talk about it.

If I dont know of a link to something requested, it might exist, but I can not provide the information. ( I'm happy that Ludd_G provided a link that might help, but again you would need to turn these images into a module, as I was not sure if it was just loose images or not... and then configure up these graphics in FGU or make a import xml config file.. But again I assume people asking for these sorts of things want the simple click solution, and dont want to spend hours doing the custom work etc. )

I do try and help as best I can,
-pete

I actually quite like the spell tokens as is. I don't find that they really interfere with anything. Coming from Foundry, we usually delete templates for things like fireball right after the damage is resolved anyway. We really just use them for a visual of what is being affected by the spell.

I do wish Fantasy Grounds had something closer to what Foundry has for determining spell areas of effect, but this is about as good as it gets for Fantasy Grounds, so thanks for all of your hard work, Pete.

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Originally Posted by Ludd_G

(also if you use the Natural Selection extension you can force the spell token to the bottom of the pile: https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/953/view )

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I'm not sure if natural selection re-orders spell tokens... unless thats new. When I tested it at launch it only showed selection of CT tokens, which was great, and so I assumed it could not 'push back' a spell token.. only player/npc icons that sit on top of each other ?

I could be wrong, and its changed to allow this. ( I do have plans to look into what is been done to push back a token, as every time I play with doing this its been inconsistent or had issues. Normally its done by calling a move(x+offset,y+offset) and move(x,y) to fake 'move' a token... as now I think FGU always puts a moved token to the back of the stack. When Spell tokens also supported FGC it di other things and FGU also had a bunch of odd stacking. But I think this has had specific updates in FGU so maybe its stable now with a fake move ?? I will take a look as some point, as I'd love to give spell/npc/player tokens a 'priority' type system.... as then people who abuse Spell tokens extension and configure things like tables and carts would have the ability to allow spell/player/npc to go under or over a token... type of thing.. )

-pete

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Originally Posted by wframe

I actually quite like the spell tokens as is. I don't find that they really interfere with anything. Coming from Foundry, we usually delete templates for things like fireball right after the damage is resolved anyway. We really just use them for a visual of what is being affected by the spell.

I do wish Fantasy Grounds had something closer to what Foundry has for determining spell areas of effect, but this is about as good as it gets for Fantasy Grounds, so thanks for all of your hard work, Pete.

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I also assume people would place a fireball spell token, use the radial to select targets, run the damage and then delete the spell token. Out group only leaves 'active' spells going past the end of turn. Hence only the odd one is ever in play on an image and hence does not clutter up too much. Sometime players drop a spell token onto the center of and npc and 'link' them together and then can not move the spell token any more... ( So delete and re-add etc.. I know you can press shift to stop this !! )

Thanks, I assume most people go the other way from FGU to foundry !! ( I've never use foundry but I have see people talk about it and it always interested me !! )

-pete

I used to just select the tokens that i wanted on top (as each is selected it places it to the top of the pile), which acts as a default send to back if you do all the other tokens but not the spell. But I've just see this in the forge description of Natural Selection:

"Send to Bottom
With the Natural Selection window open, right clicking on a token in the popup window brings up the radial menu, and within the radial menu is an option to send the token to the bottom of the stack. Doing this might adjust the order of tokens that are stacked on top of it."

which I'll definitely be using in the future.

I find the extension really stable now and it's another one where I'm mystified that this isn't core mechanics in FGU.

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Originally Posted by Ludd_G

I used to just select the tokens that i wanted on top (as each is selected it places it to the top of the pile), which acts as a default send to back if you do all the other tokens but not the spell. But I've just see this in the forge description of Natural Selection:

"Send to Bottom
With the Natural Selection window open, right clicking on a token in the popup window brings up the radial menu, and within the radial menu is an option to send the token to the bottom of the stack. Doing this might adjust the order of tokens that are stacked on top of it."

which I'll definitely be using in the future.

I find the extension really stable now and it's another one where I'm mystified that this isn't core mechanics in FGU.

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Yep I agree, the layer control of tokens even without extensions is a little odd... But it was changed when they sort of dropped FGC support.. which made it better. In the early days of FGU it was all over the place, some times you drag and it goes to bottom some times it stayed on the top and it was different between clients and host. I think they were trying to keep player tokens high on clients and npc token highest on host... but it was just a mess. It is better now but still could do with some work and extra options. But then SW dont see to look at abusive use of token for the likes of carts or spell tokens etc...

( I will look at natural selection, as I said in this thread, if its now reliable to push tokens to the back with a quick move type thing... then when you move an npc/player token I can then move all the spell tokens and get them to the back type thing.. But needs looking into. )

-pete

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Originally Posted by wframe

Bought this extension today and I love it. I'm having one small problem. Whenever I drag a line template from the character sheet or the configuration window onto the map, I can only rotate it about 45 degrees and then it stops. No amount of holding shift and scrolling will rotate it further. Worse, I can't move it after that. It's like it gets locked. Rotate left and rotate right token functions aren't working from the radial menu, either.

This is ONLY on lines like lightning bolt, wall of thorns, etc.

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released
v7.8 should resolve the line tokens, rotation/selection issue.

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Originally Posted by webdove

Hi, My players find that when spell images are persistent they clutter up the display too much especially when they don't sit on the bottom layer. They prefer simple outlines of the areas of effect. It it possible to get simple outlines easily?
Thx
Web

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It's also very possible to simply diminish the visibility of your spell tokens. The Spell Tokens are PNG files, which have a Transparency Alpha layer. You can pretty-easily work through your MOD of tokens (some are brighter and more obtrusive than others), pulling each one into GIMP, reducing the opacity with an easy slider bar and re-exporting the token back out. Takes maybe 10 seconds per token. You don't have to do anything in FGU, just re-zip and change the ZIP ext. to MOD and replace it into FGU modules folder. (There are a number of How-To's on "token work," if you need the step-by-step.)

I modify/create Spell Tokens for my specific aesthetic and uses. I like the way they make the board look like there's magic happening and reflect the action going on.

War can a busy looking business, but I definitely get how they could be distracting if you have too many going.

Good luck.

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Originally Posted by bratch9

released
v7.8 should resolve the line tokens, rotation/selection issue.

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It DOES! Thanks for the quick fix, Pete. You are a wizard of the highest order.

v7.9 released.

This has a sort of layer priority system for the spell tokens. ( It might cause use issues with other mods as it basically re-orders the token layers when anything moves !! )

The system has 4 layers..

1. Low priority spell tokens
2. Low priority player/npc tokens
3. High priority spell tokens
4. High priority player/npc tokens

Spell tokens now have a toggle button in the 'spell configuration' window that toggle then between low priority (off) and high priority (on).
player/npc tokens now have a radial option (in position 4, its an up/down arrow. ) that toggles the player/npc priority.

At the moment it does not sync the player/npc priority between clients/host, so it can get out of sync if a player moves a token, sets it to low priority, then the gm moves a token... as the gm will not have the low priority player and sort the player into the wrong state. ( ie the player priority needs to sync across the data base, so not production ready, but can be tested for feedback ?? )

This allows spell tokens to stay at the back of player/npc tokens... and allows things like tables (abused in the spell token config to high priority) to be above spell tokens, but also allows for players to stand on or under the table and still be above and spell tokens.

Feedback is welcome, when I get a bit more time I'll add the code to sync the database for the player priority as they get toggled.

-pete

EDIT: looks like this...

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v7.10 released. This adds support for locked token movement. Now the token stack tends to have the player token on top, this allows it to be dragged and the gm get a 'normal' sized approve move tick box. ( Still possible to drag a spell token and get the massive approve. ) But the system will try and move the player token and any linked spell tokens.

-pete

Strange thing is happening now. In the shot below the host is on top the client on bottom. When the client drops the token it resizes on the host? Maybe I am doing something wrong? Same thing happens if the GM drops a spell token on the map.

Edit: It only happens when the client is connected. Host only does not have this issue.

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Originally Posted by nephranka

Strange thing is happening now. In the shot below the host is on top the client on bottom. When the client drops the token it resizes on the host? Maybe I am doing something wrong? Same thing happens if the GM drops a spell token on the map.

Edit: It only happens when the client is connected. Host only does not have this issue.

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v7.11 release.

Fixes token size issues, caused by too much 'layer sorting'

Layer sorting is now only done on the host side, and has a delay counter which is set when things move... and when ticked down it will cause a layer sort. This count down only happens if you move the mouse over the image or have it over a token... ( Its just how the callbacks function in FG... without a 'every frame' type call back its the best it can be for now... )

Also the switch priority is now only on host side for players/npc, so 'ask your dm' to move you under the table !!


I think this resolves the current set of bugs I introduced over the last couple of builds to do with layers and locked token movement. ( I'd love to sort the lag on the locked token for the players, but again I had to limit this to the host side processing to drag linked tokens about... due to every move token also spamming the move and extra moves for linked into clients and I did not want the 'echo' of a client also trying to move the linked token when it noticed the other half moved etc.. )

-pete

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v7.11 release.

Fixes token size issues, caused by too much 'layer sorting'

Layer sorting is now only done on the host side, and has a delay counter which is set when things move... and when ticked down it will cause a layer sort. This count down only happens if you move the mouse over the image or have it over a token... ( Its just how the callbacks function in FG... without a 'every frame' type call back its the best it can be for now... )

Also the switch priority is now only on host side for players/npc, so 'ask your dm' to move you under the table !!


I think this resolves the current set of bugs I introduced over the last couple of builds to do with layers and locked token movement. ( I'd love to sort the lag on the locked token for the players, but again I had to limit this to the host side processing to drag linked tokens about... due to every move token also spamming the move and extra moves for linked into clients and I did not want the 'echo' of a client also trying to move the linked token when it noticed the other half moved etc.. )

-pete

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That fixed my issue. Thanks!

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That fixed my issue. Thanks!

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Do set yourself a more table like spell token and configure it with its priority tick in the spell configuration window, and have a go with the new layer system for tokens... you should now see spell tokens been behind the player/npc tokens so you should always have access to the player/npc even for 'locked token' to drag and approve etc... And then as a gm you can have your player token above or below the table or cart etc...

But because it sorts the tokens after they move, things like natural selection that moves a token will probably then cause a re-layout of the stack and the spell tokens system will probably reorder the tokens again and break the token you wanted on the top etc..

So usage feedback and interactions with the other mods the add/move tokens about would be fantastic feedback.. As I'm sure some will have issues.

I'm sure you will have fun with the changes, I've got a few things I want to fix. Like giving the player tokens the priority change, but that will have to send a message to the host to cause a layer sort. But I think the changes I made need to 'settle' and pick up any more slight issues I've caused with the changes of the systems.

Thanks in advance for your feedback and comments they are always welcome,
-pete

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Originally Posted by bratch9

Do set yourself a more table like spell token and configure it with its priority tick in the spell configuration window, and have a go with the new layer system for tokens... you should now see spell tokens been behind the player/npc tokens so you should always have access to the player/npc even for 'locked token' to drag and approve etc... And then as a gm you can have your player token above or below the table or cart etc...

But because it sorts the tokens after they move, things like natural selection that moves a token will probably then cause a re-layout of the stack and the spell tokens system will probably reorder the tokens again and break the token you wanted on the top etc..

So usage feedback and interactions with the other mods the add/move tokens about would be fantastic feedback.. As I'm sure some will have issues.

I'm sure you will have fun with the changes, I've got a few things I want to fix. Like giving the player tokens the priority change, but that will have to send a message to the host to cause a layer sort. But I think the changes I made need to 'settle' and pick up any more slight issues I've caused with the changes of the systems.

Thanks in advance for your feedback and comments they are always welcome,
-pete

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I will give any feedback we get from play. Thanks for the work!

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Hi,

would these fit the bill?

https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product...tual-Table-Top

These are for PF2e but if you search for Spell Tokens on drivethrurpg there are several different flavours available, and I've just noticed there's a sale on as well so I'm gonna get some different sets.

Hope this helps,

Cheers,

Simon

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Hi Simon,

Those look wonderful. The stair-stepped shapes quantized to 5' would give more accurate targeting. The one thing I would wish for is an option to empty the internal pixels so all tokens are just an outline. That would eliminate the clutter problem for those of us that find it to be undesirable. It's funny. Before tokens 2.1 I remember using Diablobob's DM Tools and seeing simple outlines, but I cannot figure out where those came from.

Web

Found that version 7.7 is incompatible with current portal extension v.2.30. When you try to resize portal token you can only enlarge it and cannot shrink it with mouse wheel. I do not know where is bug, but I this happened after last updates...

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Originally Posted by webdove

Hi Simon,

Those look wonderful. The stair-stepped shapes quantized to 5' would give more accurate targeting. The one thing I would wish for is an option to empty the internal pixels so all tokens are just an outline. That would eliminate the clutter problem for those of us that find it to be undesirable. It's funny. Before tokens 2.1 I remember using Diablobob's DM Tools and seeing simple outlines, but I cannot figure out where those came from.

Web

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Since the content of the actual graphic is not looked at for targeting, only the mathematical shape type defined in the configuration window... I dont think the images will be more 'accurate' for selection... You can draw whatever in the image, if its defined as a 'circle' spell token, and you draw a squared out circle, its still going to check against a perfect circle. ( Unless you use the 'usage mode' = 'pixel' configuration, then it might be better as it rounds to squares... but it might not match with the spell image etc.. ) For example if you used a squared off spell token and had it on a half grid location, then the grids are not going to line up to the selection etc..

-pete

EDIT: NOTE... if you use 'usage mode' 'pixel' then when you use the 'target' option on the spell token radial and hold down the 'ctrl' key at the same time a chat message will give you a grid of pixels that the system is checking. It will try and be bigger than the spell token area but you should be able to get an idea of which grid squares its going to check. ( Its based off the mathematical shape including the centre pixel of the grid square... unless you are in 'half square' mode... in which case each grid square is considered as 4 smaller squares )