RolemasterClassic ruleset v2.0 (based on CoreRPG)

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March 30th, 2020, 23:14
strubbel

Wow, loks great, feels great and a lot of stuff is easier now, or maybe I just did not understand the version before as well :). Just two things happened in my initial playing around in FGC:
1. stat generation process for new characters results in Script Error: [string "scripts/manager_action_statgen.lua"]:52: attempt to call field 'StatGenMinRollValue' (a nil value)
and when an enemy dies de to effects ( dies in 9 rounds, wait for it, dead) but still has HP left, then it is not deletable (and maybe not skipped).
March 30th, 2020, 23:21
Dakadin

Yeah, I've been spoiled using it the last 9 months as it's gotten progressively better. I would have to open up the old version to verify things before answering posts because there were a few times I would think 'wait it has that feature' and then I would remember my version had it. :p

Thanks for those reports. I've added them to my list and will look into them. I am thinking about providing updates once a week or so until things are running smoothly.
March 30th, 2020, 23:26
Dakadin

Quote:

Originally Posted by strubbel

when an enemy dies de to effects ( dies in 9 rounds, wait for it, dead) but still has HP left, then it is not deletable (and maybe not skipped).

Thinking about this one more, you should be able to right click on them to delete them still. I do need to add the delete button to them though when the Dead or Dying effect is applied. I noticed that when I ran a session yesterday. Please let me know if you can't delete it with the radial menu though.
March 31st, 2020, 02:44
Dakadin

Quote:

Originally Posted by strubbel

1. stat generation process for new characters results in Script Error: [string "scripts/manager_action_statgen.lua"]:52: attempt to call field 'StatGenMinRollValue' (a nil value)

I couldn't replicate this one but I am guessing you have an extension that modifies stats loaded. Do you have any extensions loaded?

I added another check in the code to prevent the error but it will only using the default of 20 if it would encounter this error.

It also reminds me that I need to upload the new versions of the smooth and linear stat bonuses.
March 31st, 2020, 05:57
Dakadin

The latest version of linear and smooth stats extensions have been updated to work with RMC v1.8 and RMC v2.0+ so you can use them with either version of the ruleset.
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...tat-Extensions
March 31st, 2020, 06:08
JohnD

Nice... I like the smooth stats. Thanks again.
March 31st, 2020, 07:10
strubbel

Great, it really was the stats extension causing the error as it is the one extension I would really not like to play without. By the way, both 'issues' were no show-stoppers to begin with, thanks a lot!
April 4th, 2020, 10:50
strubbel

So, after our latest session with the new ruleset in action in FG Classic I found some things I would like to let you know.

When opening a charsheet in classic I get a lot of nil Value issues in the console, these seem to be the new fields that were added like NextLevelXP, PPMult, SpellAdder, ShieldDb etc. I am not familiar with Lua, but would suggest that they need to be referenced differently (at least in FGClassic)?
Also I get lots of GetInventoryItemLink errors from the new fields where the new equipment is tracked, like equipped_armor.
Third one is a script error from the rules_skills_lua when trying to roll directly from a skill in the skills window. This one I might have actually fixed by myself by trying to change ChatManager.throwDice to Comm.throwDice which seems to work at least in FGClassic (I think that's why there is a split between versions <4 and higher implemented) ?

Hope that helps and if you do not want to invest too much time into FGClassic, I would be happy to get some pointers and hints to try and handle these errors myself. I am, however, not familiar with Lua, just dabbled in the programming of stuff a bit.
April 4th, 2020, 18:38
Dakadin

Hi strubbel,

Thanks for testing it. I do want it working in both FGC and FGU. I've mainly been testing in FGC so far but will work on FGU soon. Those errors sound like you have some extensions loaded that haven't been updated to work with the new code but I might be wrong. Is this a new campaign or a migrated campaign from v1.8? Is it a new character, one migrated with a campaign or an imported character?

Thanks,
Dakadin
April 5th, 2020, 21:06
Sulimo

Wow, great work Dakadin.

I do have a question, it is by no means urgent; will there be something to use as a reference to creating new content at some point?

When I created the custom modules fr RM a while back, I was able to use the existing modules as a guide (Character Law, Arms Law, and Spell Law). Those don't seem to exist yet for RM2. If this is something that will be included later, I can wait, no need to rush on my behalf.

Most of the content I created for RM1 seems to work, but some of it is a bit off. For example, items are not showing up in the Items function. I expected this because of what you had said about how you updated them, weapons at least still seem to work and the Items show up in the modules themselves, and appear to function as far as I can tell so far. Races don't have all of the information that the built in ones have (probably some field(s) not filled out).

Like I said, this is not at all urgent, just curious if the reference modules will be included at some point.
April 5th, 2020, 21:24
Dakadin

Hi Sulimo,

The modules can be created the same way. I tried really hard to make sure that those would work. The only exception is the tables need the tag changed to RMTables instead of just tables. The modules might be in the vault now because I have a couple plans with them that will require them to be secured. I will still answer questions and provide examples so that people can still make their own modules.

To get the items to show up in the Items section you just need to make sure your items are in one of the following paths within your module:

Code:

item reference.equipment.accessories.list reference.equipment.armor.list reference.equipment.basespellitems.list reference.equipment.foodlodgingservices.list reference.equipment.transport.list reference.equipment.weapons.list reference.equipment.herbs.list reference.equipment.enchantedbreads.list reference.equipment.intoxicants.list reference.equipment.poisons.list reference.weaponlist.standardweapons reference.weaponlist.additionalweapons reference.weaponlist.blades reference.weaponlist.japaneseblades reference.weaponlist.orientalweapons reference.weaponlist.polearms reference.weaponlist.unusualweapons

For the races, they need to have one of these paths:

Code:

race reference.racedata.list

You should be able to drag the race from your module to the race section. Then you can fill in the extra fields and export it to another module. Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Dakadin
April 7th, 2020, 05:01
Sulimo

That was what I needed, thanks.

Can't wait to try this out. I've done a little testing and I am liking what I see.

Next step is to see what happens with I open an existing campaign. I have backups of campaigns I created a while back, so this seems like a good opportunity to do a conversion.
April 7th, 2020, 05:04
Dakadin

That's great news.

Let me know if you encounter any issues loading an existing campaign. Just be aware that you will likely have issues if you try to use extensions until they are updated for the new version.
April 7th, 2020, 05:06
Sulimo

I kind of figured Extensions might be a problem (except for your updated version of Smooth Stats). I hardly use them, however, once some of them get updated, I might have another look.
April 7th, 2020, 11:24
TopHatG

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Hi, I have to say it looks fantastic compared to the old one we tried a few years ago.

I receive an error when I open a character, and I don't know what I have done to trigger it.

Attachment 33216
April 7th, 2020, 12:19
Trenloe

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopHatG

Hi, I have to say it looks fantastic compared to the old one we tried a few years ago.

I receive an error when I open a character, and I don't know what I have done to trigger it.

Attachment 33216

Do you get the same error in FG Classic?
April 7th, 2020, 12:44
TopHatG

Quote:

Do you get the same error in FG Classic?

I didn't. And i didn't get the message at the start either I believe. I will try a new campaign and see if it happens again.

Edit: I started a new campaign to see if it still happens, and it does not. I will try to figure out what I did in the first campaign to trigger it.
April 7th, 2020, 15:21
Dakadin

It's trying to generate the link for the profession field and when it reviews the modules it is finding one that doesn't have a name field. That is something that I should be able to put an extra check in the code for. Thanks for reporting it.
April 8th, 2020, 03:01
TopHatG

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dakadin

It's trying to generate the link for the profession field and when it reviews the modules it is finding one that doesn't have a name field. That is something that I should be able to put an extra check in the code for. Thanks for reporting it.

Cheers. Here are all the errors I get if it helps.

Open a character

[4/8/2020 11:55:28 AM] [<color="red">ERROR</color>] Script execution error: [string "scripts/rules_professions.lua"]:96: attempt to index a nil value

Switch to Combat

[4/8/2020 11:55:36 AM] [WARNING] template: Could not find template () in class (charsheet_combat)

When I clicked on Spells (but can not get it to do it again)

[4/8/2020 11:55:42 AM] [WARNING] Frame textlinedice contains out-of-range values in Middle.

Hope it helps, unless I have done something weird.

Anything I can do to stop it happening at the moment? It only happens in one campaign and not the other.

Thanks, Ash.
April 8th, 2020, 03:53
Dakadin

Thanks for testing it. I will look into them but I have a couple questions:
1. Is this a new campaign or an existing campaign that is being migrated?
2. Do you have any extensions loaded?
3. Have you created a new profession in the ruleset?

Dakadin
April 8th, 2020, 14:47
Ardem

I can drag and drop a weapon from the character law, however I cannot great a new one with the error. Script Error [string "campaign/scripts/charsheet_weaponlist.lua"]:35: attempt to call field 'setState' (a nil Value)

P.S. I did delete all everything again and got more success I think I might missed a .mod if the first run through that did not get overwritten. Only error is above, it might be because you suppose to add it to the inventory and not the combat area maybe you should lock this if that the case or not allow new
April 8th, 2020, 15:08
Ardem

Where are the modules held now as I cannot see them in the .mod section?
April 8th, 2020, 16:15
JohnD

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ardem

Where are the modules held now as I cannot see them in the .mod section?

Probably in the Vault.
April 8th, 2020, 16:52
Dakadin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ardem

I can drag and drop a weapon from the character law, however I cannot great a new one with the error. Script Error [string "campaign/scripts/charsheet_weaponlist.lua"]:35: attempt to call field 'setState' (a nil Value)

P.S. I did delete all everything again and got more success I think I might missed a .mod if the first run through that did not get overwritten. Only error is above, it might be because you suppose to add it to the inventory and not the combat area maybe you should lock this if that the case or not allow new

This is actually an error that I found last week and have a fix for it in v2.0.1 which has about a dozen other fixes and adjustments. It hasn't been released to the test channel yet but it should resolve this issue and a few others when it gets updated.
April 11th, 2020, 10:56
strubbel

In regard# to my post some days ago I can confirm now that i forgot to deactivate random extension and optional rule extension while starting the active campaign. Without these ( only extension running is smooth stats now) i have none of the issues above anymore.
April 11th, 2020, 18:01
Dakadin

Thanks for the update strubbel. I have a bunch of little fixes and changes that I am finishing up. I mainly just have to clean up a bug and get the table resolver working correctly in FGU. Then I will provide Smiteworks with another update to put on the test server. If everything goes smooth with that for a week or so then we can move it to the live channel.
April 13th, 2020, 12:36
strubbel

Yesterdays session went well again. There is one issue with the dice I observed, though. When rolling the predefined d100 the single digit die is showing from 1 to 10, not 0 to 9. this results in 30&10 to be 40 instead of 30&0 equalling 30. I have tested until I got this twice after I caught the first time out of the corner of the eye and were not sure. Only extension running ist still the smooth stats. Can anyone else confirm this or do I have an uniquely broken system?
April 13th, 2020, 15:20
Majyk

Will check it out but the 10s die is 10 thru 00(with the 1s die following the same theme).
It has always been that way for RM, at least.

Results are 90+10 for 100 vs 00 + 0. It works, just differently than stamped IRL dice, you’re correct.
April 13th, 2020, 19:19
strubbel

Mmh, ok, thanks for that swift explanation. Probabilities are the same then, but I might need some time getting used to it, after 30 years of having it differently...
April 14th, 2020, 00:29
Ardem

all the extension have to be redone I am doing the FRP extension now but it be a week or two before complete. As for the Random Extension I will look at that after FRP, and the XP Extension somewhere in between
April 16th, 2020, 01:29
Sulimo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dakadin

That's great news.

Let me know if you encounter any issues loading an existing campaign. Just be aware that you will likely have issues if you try to use extensions until they are updated for the new version.

It's been a while since this comment.

I just thought I would follow up and let you know that everything worked fine.

I spent some time moving items from the items character to the Parcels. That seems to have worked fairly well.

I just need to test out the campaign to see how it all works (hopefully soon).
April 16th, 2020, 05:56
Dakadin

Thanks for testing it. I do appreciate it. You might want to run the update on the Test channel first since there is a new version 2.0.2 with quite a few fixes and that fixes most of the issues in FGU.
April 16th, 2020, 06:04
Dakadin

RolemasterClassic v2.0.2

A new version of the RMC v2 ruleset is available on the test channel now. This fixes most of the issues that I've been made aware of and also fixes most of the issue with using it in FGU. I am hoping a few of you will try running a few sample combats, migrate a campaign, and create a character just to see if there are any additional issues that I need to fix. Please let me know if you have any questions about the new features until they are documented. Someone is actually helping me by working on the documentation for it.

Thanks,
Dakadin

Here is a detailed list of the changes:
Fixed - Conditional Effects - still apply their info about location hit until another crit is applied
Fixed - Column isn't be selected when rolling Move/MM in some areas
Fixed - Modifier Stack font is the wrong color
Added dice image to NPC Base Rate
Add roll of MN Mod on NPCs
Module updates to Arms Law, Character Law, and Spell Law to resolve a few errors and update weapons
Added Delete button for Dying and Dead effects in Combat Tracker
Fixed - Table Resolver where Additional Criticals option showing even when not in the item/attack
Fixed - Items table fields disappear when set to ""
Fixed Error when adding new weapons using the radial menu on the Combat tab on Character Sheet
Updated critical table field on items so it defaults to Attack table when the attack table is set
Updated Radial Menus on Character List for AFK and Release for PCs and Whisper for GMs to use the correct image
Fixed - Hotbar key graphics frames aren't splitting the graphic right
Added Max Size/Rank field with dropdrop down to Items instead of the max_level field
Linked attacks and defences on Combat Tracker to weapons and martial arts on CharSheet
Added Hits Multiplier field to Martial Arts section of Character Sheet
Fixed herb effects aren't showing up in the equipment list
Fixed - Dying results in the Dead effect one round too soon
Changed the default for the rank bonus field to not be read only to allow it to be used in FGU
Updated frames for sheetgroup and the one for number boxes to make them easier to read in FGU
Fixed - Script error (nil) at line 96 of Rules_Professions when opening a character
Added level, race and profession details to character selection window
Fixed - Zero values on Character Sheet for Damage, Exhaustion Used, PP Used and Spell Adder Used are blank instead of 0 in FGU
Fixed - Item Labels in FGU are overlapping the fields
Fixed - Potential Distance, Max Distance and % Act are at the bottom of the CT entry in FGU
Fixed - AT, DB, Move and Spell Adder are blank in the Combat Tracker in FGU
Added text to the Tokens and Assets sidebar graphics
Set Weapon fields on Character Sheet Combat tab to read only
Fixed - Adding entries to the CT with more damage than hits causes the system to crash
Fixed - Stats getting reset in Stat Generation when it opens
Fixed - Prime Stats on Stat Generation are not filling in properly
Fixed - Weapons on Combat tab to the CT aren't updating properly for PCs
Updated font sizes in FGU and FGC so they match better
April 16th, 2020, 11:17
Pepor

It looks promising. Thanks Dakadin!
April 18th, 2020, 11:21
Prunttonner

Hello Dadakin,

Yesterday I tried to connect with a friend in new version of the RMC v2 ruleset on the test channel in FGU.
Unfortunately, we were unable to connect to the RMC v2 or RMC v1.8 rule set. We also tried to connect on live channel with no success. However we connected in 5ED&D without issues. First, how I can fix this issue if any solution exists? Due to Covid-19 quarentine I would like enjoy developing a campaign... but I am very concerned because Unity version does not work properly. Do you know when we can access to ruleset in FGU and when v2 Ruleset will be avalaible to play?

I want to develop a campaign in Rolemaster and play. If some test players are needed I will help.

Thank you in advance.
April 18th, 2020, 18:34
Siltoneous

I have to admit I haven't tried connecting the new 2.0.2 to an external entity, but I do connect regularly across my local computer with no issues. FGC, v2.0.2. One window running as GM, one as player. Lets me check things out from the GM and player side at the same time. =) Was the console giving you any errors?
April 18th, 2020, 19:05
Sulimo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dakadin

Thanks for testing it. I do appreciate it. You might want to run the update on the Test channel first since there is a new version 2.0.2 with quite a few fixes and that fixes most of the issues in FGU.

I'll hopefully get a chance to try out running the campaign later today.

Not sure if you saw it, but there is a thread in the FGU playtest sub about Images in RM and FGU.

Seems with the change to using the Assets widget instead of the Images one, that is is no longer possible to add images to a campaign in FGU and RM1.8. I wasn't really sure what to tell the person asking, so I did a few tests, to confirm what he was seeing.

Happy to report that it does work in RM2.0 though.

Let me know if you want any details from the testing I did.
April 19th, 2020, 01:42
Dakadin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prunttonner

Hello Dadakin,

Yesterday I tried to connect with a friend in new version of the RMC v2 ruleset on the test channel in FGU.
Unfortunately, we were unable to connect to the RMC v2 or RMC v1.8 rule set. We also tried to connect on live channel with no success. However we connected in 5ED&D without issues. First, how I can fix this issue if any solution exists? Due to Covid-19 quarentine I would like enjoy developing a campaign... but I am very concerned because Unity version does not work properly. Do you know when we can access to ruleset in FGU and when v2 Ruleset will be avalaible to play?

I want to develop a campaign in Rolemaster and play. If some test players are needed I will help.

Thank you in advance.

Hi Prunttonner,

I haven't tested connections with FGU yet. I will try it in a little while to see what happens. Can you let me know how you tried connecting? Was it a cloud or LAN game?

I am hoping to get all the bugs worked out of v2.0 soon so it can be moved to the live channel but I need to track down any bugs like this and get them fixed before that happens. Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Dakadin
April 19th, 2020, 01:47
Dakadin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sulimo

I'll hopefully get a chance to try out running the campaign later today.

Not sure if you saw it, but there is a thread in the FGU playtest sub about Images in RM and FGU.

Seems with the change to using the Assets widget instead of the Images one, that is is no longer possible to add images to a campaign in FGU and RM1.8. I wasn't really sure what to tell the person asking, so I did a few tests, to confirm what he was seeing.

Happy to report that it does work in RM2.0 though.

Let me know if you want any details from the testing I did.

Thanks for pointing that out. Yes, the changes in the Images and Assets window in FGU means that it won't work with version 1.8 without replacing the system. I am glad to hear that it is working in v2.0 since that is all inherited from CoreRPG. :)
April 19th, 2020, 03:20
Dakadin

I did some tests connecting using FGU. I was able to connect using LAN with port forwarding 1802 UDP with both v1.8 and v2.0. When using a cloud connection, I could connect with v1.8 but not with v2.0. I've collected the logs and will send them to Smiteworks so the issue can be tracked down. Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Dakadin

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