Because I am rude

In my opinion WotC clearly hasn't thought things through. First if *I* can leak the information before they have made the announcement they clearly have no control over their employees.

Next you run into the issue that yes 4th ed. fractured the gaming world. It is very difficult to find a new group of players for a game anymore. You add in yet another ruleset and you could destroy the already fragile fantasy tabletop world.

Finally you get into the issue of the greed machine and how soon is now?
At the rate they are going might as well announce 6th and 7th edition as well, and tell everyone that in order to play you are going to have to buy three copies of every book per player.

:( Everyone is killing their 5th edition threads, where will I be able to play the role of a supporter?

It would be kind of tough for them to stay in business without making new product lines. How many copies of PHB9 are you really going to sell?

As for the edition factions - I fail to see how asking for fan input on the next edition is a bad thing. In fact, I think it's an excellent idea in theory - sounds like they are taking a lesson from Pathfinder's success. We will have to wait and see how well they actually implement it in practice. Die-hard edition fans are always going to resist change, but from a revenue perspective if you are implementing feedback from the majority of you customers, you are going to ensure that the majority are going to back the new product.

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Originally Posted by unerwünscht

In my opinion WotC clearly hasn't thought things through. First if *I* can leak the information before they have made the announcement they clearly have no control over their employees.

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They've obviously been thinking about it for a while - interesting article about journalists being shown "5e" but under NDA while ago here.

Wired.com has a great article about 5e.

https://www.wired.com/geekdad/2012/0...s-and-dragons/

in the article are links to articles by The Escapist about the past, present and future of d&d. Really good stuff and worth a read, except they don't actually talk about virtual table tops at all. Well they do mention wizards failure to get that done.

In the end it won't matter to me if 5th edition is great (my group will stay with savage worlds because we game in more then the fantasy setting), but at the least I hope it helps draw in another generation to role playing.

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Originally Posted by Monkeyboy

in the article are links to articles by The Escapist about the past, present and future of d&d. Really good stuff and worth a read, except they don't actually talk about virtual table tops at all. Well they do mention wizards failure to get that done.

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Read the Escapist's "bonus column" on ENWorld

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The problem is that VTTs exist, and they’re not successful. If you give people the choice between a VTT and an MMO, they pick the MMO. The VTT doesn’t solve the real problem that is that the MMO experience is simply better for a significant portion of the former TRPG social network. My opinion is that a successful and widely used VTT will remain an elusive mirage despite how much effort is poured into developing them.

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Originally Posted by MurghBpurn

Read the Escapist's "bonus column" on ENWorld

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A very good read, thanks.

Spyke

I think Enworld is absolutely wrong about that. Find me a single MMO with an evolving story that can change on the fly based on what the players do. Find a single video game that will let you fully break from the mold and interact with absolutely anything and everything in the world. The simple fact is that no video game is capable of handling the anarchy and chaos of a true roleplaying game, so what they give us instead is are these Massively Multiplayer Games and the throw the word roleplaying in there hoping we will fall for the lies.

Sure the idiots of the world fall for it, but honestly do we want to play roleplaying games with idiots?

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Originally Posted by unerwünscht

Got one .. Oh yea! https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...ad.php?t=15852
HEY! dont you judge me! I said I was rude ;)

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Might want to edit that post, as the link's been nuked...

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Originally Posted by MurghBpurn

Might want to edit that post, as the link's been nuked...

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Edited, thanks for pointing it out... One of these days someone will leave a 5th ed thread up and I will be able to anti-troll as a supporter of WotC. I thought it might be fun to be on the other side for once... So what if everyone knows I hate WotC, I was on the debate team, I can play either side of any field.