Earthdawn v128 uploaded to the FGWiki

I appreciate the feedback:) Sorry for the delay in responding.

I'm still considering a way to handle combat conditions. Right now the plan was to use the mouse wheel modifiers on the step and armor/defense fields to adjust for those conditions.

I'm a little stumped on a few items though.

** In the combat tracker: when dragging a character into it, you should get the following information:
- Both armors, linked back to the sheet, damage total, and wounds.
- Init step on the attack panel (choosing which attack a char might want to use was beyond the scope of what I was attemping:) )
- defense panel: All three defenses, uncon, death, wound thresh, # of recovery, and recovery step
- movement panel: Combat move, full move (size and reach defaulted to 1)
- the effects panel right now is mainly freestring, and allows setting up how many rounds the effect last, mostly for notekeeping.
- end of turn for players. Yes I had disabled that until I had time to track down an odd bug with it. Then forgot about it.. oops.. It's on my todo:)

* for the NPC sheet:
- the main/combat page is simply in the style that ED always published their NPCs/monsters.
- the notes page is a full formatted text area, so links to other items can be inserted there. (something I used while making a library for the monsters in the main book)
- the "other" page is where I thought the fancy parts of special NPCs would go. It is a list of extra attributes that can be named. It includes a value field, and a step. If you added say, breath attack under property and then set it's step value, then double clicked on the step value, in the chat window it would say "breath attack (Step: X) [Total: Y]" Pretty much, I thought/hoped this would get around the limitations that were somewhat obvious with the format used by ED.

Unfortunately, I can't recreate the issues you appear to have with the combat tracker. When I'm connected though localhost everything seems to work properly. Do your players have values in the armor fields on their character sheet? On the combat tab, adding armor values PD, SD, SoD, Mystic and Physical Armor, etc, in the defenses section should all work correctly. Just have to make sure they are checked active. (Handy for things like an Absorb Blow Charm, since you can toggle them, and it computes them in, and in my tests, makes it transparent to the CT) Then the GM can drop damage on the appropriate armor value to have it computed.... at least that was the plan. ;)

Which version of the ruleset are you currently running btw? (should say in the readme.txt file at the top.)

Perhaps we can connect up a session sometime and look things over, maybe together we can recreate the issues.

Again, thanks for the feedback.
-kirbol

Kirb, I'll double check the issue and check it out when I get back to my home computer this week. But It's whatever is linked to on the wiki site. I'll see if I can recreate myself, we may have been blind. So out of boredom I loaded it on my laptop and realized we were blind on the NPC sheet makes more sense that way.
given the rest I think the end of turn is the biggest one. but man I got a lot of typing to create libraries... lol

I was able to track down my mistake and get the "Turn Complete" button working properly for players :)

The libs are well worth the effort, just wish there was an easier way for them, I'm about 1/2way done with the main rule book, though I have taken a short break from it since I'm not sure when I'd actually get to use them :) ((I've been working on the FASA edition... since that seems to be the edition that might get used...)) I suppose it's possible that if ED/FASA/Living Room Games/Redbrick got on approved list these could be bundled and sold by Smite Works or something.... not entirely sure how that all works exactly..

anyways...

I made sure that most of the character sheet (talents, skills, spells, and inventory), personality, items, etc.. all support drag and drop from the library modules.

The xml format is somewhat unique for these as ED items can get pretty complex, though the /export function also works.. On the ED page in the wiki, there is a template lib that I tried to illustrate how these could be crafted.

For the combat modifiers I'm still not coming up with a great way to handle these... they tend to be fairly complex, coding wise... though I've got an idea for wounds.. since num of wounds -1 is the step penalty, it seems the most logical approach would be to apply it to the actual double-click/drag base roll. Then it would not apply the penalty more than once. Thoughts?

-kirbol

see I'm actually using the current version. I think the only reason that the Fasa version is so popular is it's so easy to get since its oop. I agree with the wounds, there are only certain times it doesn't apply a spell or two that stops wound penalties, and in those rare cases they can be applied as a bonus to negate it.

I'm looking into how to apply wounds properly, this may take some time... I don't want to break anything or over-apply the penalty... I have no global way to handle this, especially since wounds are handled completely differently for the recovery roll.. I'll see if I can figure something out thou..

I used the FASA edition for my lib since that's what I started playing ED on, and it's what I own the books for:) I haven't yet picked up the newest edition from Redbrick, since I've not got an active game going or anything;)

Talysian,
After pouring over the code and rules for wounds, then talking to the GM that ran ED. I'm thinking this needs to be designed as an extension or a fork, for a few reasons.

The sheer variability of when wounds applies makes it difficult to know when to apply them without tons of automation that may not be desired.

• In the FASA rules, these are optional. (Even the Redbrick edition that I have suggests not using wound penalties at first)
• Blood Elves ignore 2 wounds instead of 1.
• Some talents and spells allow people to ignore extra wound effects.
• Do all creatures suffer wound penalties? Cadavermen, for example, fly into a rage and get big bonuses for being wounded, instead of penalties.
• Are there threaded items that allow you to ignore extra wound penalties?
• Is the karma step affected by wound levels?
• Recovery dice do not take a step penalty, they take a modifier penalty to the total roll (which the modifiers box at the bottom works very well for by dragging your number of wounds while holding the control key onto the modifier box to add the wound penalty to the recovery roll)
• Should the wound system alert you to attribute steps that reach 0 and apply effects/death based on those? (this is a whole new level of complexity I barely want to think about... my head is already hurting;) )
• What about other house rules for wounds?
• How should this interface with the combat tracker? Wound penalties can't really back-trace into the personalities/library entries.

The ruleset already has step modifiers in place, which would make it simple to apply wounds, with all the possible exceptions without over-complicating the ruleset, to any rolls that are subject to wound penalties.

I really hope this doesn't put you off using FG and this ruleset for your game :o. Someone (possibly even me at some point, though right now my time is very limited) could code this into an extension to, or a fork of, the ruleset if it was felt this was important enough.

-kirbol

Added a floor to the damage taken and the wounds fields so they can't go below 0.

Updated the Willforce detection and calculations to take in the statmod value on the full talent card.

-kirbol

Doesn't disuade me at all in fact in a couple of weeks I plan on seeing if I can get enough for a one shot, then perhaps a consistent game after that, I'm just having problems finding maps I like.

I appreciate the updates to this ruleset. I played with Joshuha when he coded the first iteration and thought he did a good job. My Savage Worlds group is enthusiastic to give EarthDawn a try, and I hope to run a few sessions in a few weeks. I'm using RedBrick's second edition rules, so this should work fine.

I was pleasantly surprised with how receptive the players were about trying EarthDawn.

If you want any feedback from the game sessions, let me know.

Feedback is always welcome. I can't swear exactly how much time I'll have for new features, though I'll try to fix any bugs as quickly as possible. :)

-Kirbol