Paizo and SmiteWorks sign an agreement for official Pathfinder support!

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Originally Posted by JohnD

I doubt it would be free; the cost or some permutation of it would be baked into the price (or Paizo's portion of it at least).

I personally don't think that there's a hig deal here. Doug can't do anything about Paizo's pricing strategy.

In my online experience, everything I've tried to run has been accompanied by a pdf and/or a printed copy of the adventure in addition to the FG version or what I entered myself. It just works better that way for me. I suspect that the vast majority of people running Pathfinder here have their own printed or pdf copies of the rules and adventures.

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I don't see any big deal either, John. It isn't going to change my purchasing habits or product choices. While I prefer having a physical book I do want a PDF to go with it because I may not always be able to lug a stack of books everywhere or have a chance to go find a book on a shelf when I'm running a session. It is often easier to open the PDF and carry on. That is the thing I really like about Paizo's subscription and Frog God Games - you get the PDF with the purchase of the physical copy. WotC could learn from that.

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Originally Posted by Zhern

I don't see any big deal either, John. It isn't going to change my purchasing habits or product choices. While I prefer having a physical book I do want a PDF to go with it because I may not always be able to lug a stack of books everywhere or have a chance to go find a book on a shelf when I'm running a session. It is often easier to open the PDF and carry on. That is the thing I really like about Paizo's subscription and Frog God Games - you get the PDF with the purchase of the physical copy. WotC could learn from that.

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Originally Posted by JohnD

I suspect that the vast majority of people running Pathfinder here have their own printed or pdf copies of the rules and adventures.

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That's because they've had to up til now. And each GM had to make his own copy of his module to run in FG, yadda yadda.

So far I've only been a player for Pathfinder -- PFS specifically, in person and once here on FG. So other than my dead tree Core Rulebook, I don't need anything else. But if I wanted to try my hand at GMing Pathfinder here on FG, only to be told first I have to go buy the PDFs from Paizo then come back here and buy the same content for FG... that's a disincentive in my book.

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Originally Posted by ddavison

There will not be any requirement for a check on whether or not you own the PDF.

The unknown portion is whether or not you will get a discounted price for the FG version if you buy it directly from the Paizo website and already own the PDF.

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Will the full cost from Steam or the FG Store include a copy of the PDF then?

Looking at all the options across RW, D20 Pro and FG it looks like FG will get the short end of the stick? Correct me if I'm wrong here but so far:

The expensive option in RW gets you the RW Content + ownership of the PDF.
The expensive option in D20Pro gets you the D20Pro Content + ownership of the PDF.
The Fantasy Grounds option gets you the Fantasy Grounds Content.

Is this correct?

I don't actually own any of the Paizo material currently but was looking into it so the actual complaints getting around don't really apply to me. Instead I'm in a situation where I can pick one of the providers above based on the best offering and quite frankly, the ability to own the PDF alongside the content is appealing.

No additional information has been released and probably wont be until the stuff is available for sale.

"short end" depends on what you are looking for from your product.
Fantasy Grounds is easily the best tool for playing online Pathfinder. It has so many more smarts about how it handles combat in particular.
If thats not what you are using it for your value assessment will differ.
You're coming from RW so you most likely have different uses for your content.

Id personally like PDFs with products as they are generally easier to read than any other digital interpretation (although the new options in the FG reference manual close this gap considerably) but my digital purchases today are based on what Im running in FG and nothing else.

All of my play is online anymore, so having the content in FG is fine. I do end up buying the physical products that come with a PDF as often as possible and subscribe to most of the Pathfinder subs for that reason. I don't really look at it as the short end of the stick given the amount of functionality FG has with it. Incidentally, I do own Realmworks but haven't had time to use it - I've conned my wife into entering all the Frog God stuff into it, though. She's currently working on Bard's Gate.

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Originally Posted by Zhern

All of my play is online anymore, so having the content in FG is fine. I do end up buying the physical products that come with a PDF as often as possible and subscribe to most of the Pathfinder subs for that reason. I don't really look at it as the short end of the stick given the amount of functionality FG has with it. Incidentally, I do own Realmworks but haven't had time to use it - I've conned my wife into entering all the Frog God stuff into it, though. She's currently working on Bard's Gate.

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I have RW too but dont use it.
Lucky wife...

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Originally Posted by Zhern

I do own Realmworks but haven't had time to use it - I've conned my wife into entering all the Frog God stuff into it, though. She's currently working on Bard's Gate.

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Oh to be so lucky :) Sounds like Frog God Games is going to be getting quite a bit of content in officially.

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Originally Posted by daplunk

Oh to be so lucky :) Sounds like Frog God Games is going to be getting quite a bit of content in officially.

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She's not doing it officially, but depending how it turns out and what the submission guidelines are like, maybe we will send them over to the content market but only after I ping Bill and make sure the Frogs are on board with it and all, seeing as it is their IP and I'm not looking to profit off of that and all.

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Originally Posted by Zhern

She's not doing it officially, but depending how it turns out and what the submission guidelines are like, maybe we will send them over to the content market but only after I ping Bill and make sure the Frogs are on board with it and all, seeing as it is their IP and I'm not looking to profit off of that and all.

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From what I'm hearing the Frogs are already on-board and working with LWD.