5E - Aura Effects

Actually that link is incorrect, the correct one is: https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/32/view

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Originally Posted by johnecc

Actually that link is incorrect, the correct one is: https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/32/view

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Rixx was actually asking for the link for Advanced Effects, but thanks for re-posting the link to Aura Effects so it doesn't get lost in the fast-moving thread :)

Link to Advanced Effect extension

https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/68/view

bmos, yeah, sorry, I missed that post. My bad.

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Originally Posted by Morik

Update: AURA: 5 foe; Totem Spirit; GRANTSADVATK: melee; [SELF]

Can I add this to my existing Rage effect? It doesn't seem to work. Does it have to be kept separate since it affects foes?

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yeah, I asked for help on this one a while back and there was no way to get it to work right. Even with the Faction option. It keeps granting adv attack on the barbarian as well as the foes

Two auras might do the trick. One that applies a custom (nonfunctional) effect to everything in range, maybe "NOTBARBARIAN". And another that applies an effect along the lines of IFT(NOTBARBARIAN); GRANTDISATK. Mostly just spit balling though, haven't messed with this myself directly.

I heard something a while back about only one AURA effect working per creature, but haven't checked it out yet myself.

Regarding Totem Spirits, it doesn't seem possible at this time to exclude the AURA source from the GRANDADVATK effect, assuming the report about one AURA per source is correct.

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Originally Posted by bmos

I heard something a while back about only one AURA effect working per creature, but haven't checked it out yet myself.

Regarding Totem Spirits, it doesn't seem possible at this time to exclude the AURA source from the GRANDADVATK effect, assuming the report about one AURA per source is correct.

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Yeah I ended up doing this
AURA: 5 foe; Wolf Totem
AURA: 20 friend; Totem; IF: FACTION(notself); IFT: CUSTOM(Wolf Totem); ADVATK

Seems to work.. There's some holes in it (If the creature is extra large and the friend is out of the Aura range) but at least the Barbarian doesn't get the AdvAttack now. And the combat tracker spam, but such is the price for automation...

I guess AURA: 5 foe; Wolf Totem; IF: FACTION(foe); GRANTADVATK:melee doesn't discriminate who it grants the Advantage to...

More then one aura should work as I have paladins who have more then one aura running at a time on players(meaning currently they are applying the effects and as far as I know they are being treated properly).

Is there currently a way to automatically disable/enable the effect on say the Paladin with the Aura of Protection if they go unconscious?

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Originally Posted by Paperclipkiller

Is there currently a way to automatically disable/enable the effect on say the Paladin with the Aura of Protection if they go unconscious?

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No, although it's on the eventual to-do list.
Probably that would mean having a separate AURAC effect since not all auras will have that limitation.

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Originally Posted by randomnumber46

I DM'd you but not sure if it went through, so replying here as well to be safe.

The error only occurred with Polymorph, since it was the only shapechange effect with concentration. The effect applies correctly, but when you break concentration (either by manually deleting the effect, failing a concentration check or clicking the 'Stop Concentrating' button) the error pops up. It doesn't seem to happen if the polymorphed form is reduced to 0 hp and the creature changes back, even though this also removes the polymorph effect. The same thing happens whether the caster is the target or not.

Everything seems to work correctly, even with the error, but since I don't know what the error is I don't know if there is anything unseen going on so I've avoided using them together.

Let me know if you want me to go into more detail on any particular part!

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Is this issue still ocurring? If so, can someone re-post the error as the line numbers referenced don't seem to be the same anymore.
I'm not getting errors when concentration checks are rolled or by using the Stop Concentrating button.

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Originally Posted by macduffie465

Long thread; Apologize if this scenario has been covered. I haven't found the coding. Closest I could find was using the AURA and REGEN, but that isn't quite what I'm looking to establish.

Scenario: Player has Healing Spirit, which reads "Until the spell ends, whenever you or a creature you can see moves into the spirits space for the first time on a turn or starts its turn there, you can cause the spirit to restore 1d6 hit points to that creature (no action required).". Cool, a Font of Healing, just walk through it on your turn as part of your movement and get a 1d6 heal. It can only trigger this heal 1+ spell casting ability modifier (minimum of twice).

Thought of dropping a token in combat tracker/battle map and putting an aura affect on that token when the player casts the spell, allowing players to see the spirit on the map and pass through it as part of their movement or a quick heal; or have the ranger drop it on the tank's square and just give them 1d6 healing at the start of their turn for as long as they can. I was originally thinking that an ongoing 'save', with negative damage would fit the bill; just set the DC of the save so high that a player stepping into the aura always fails resulting in the SAVEDMG getting rolled, resulting in a HEAL roll. Though they do get triggered at the start of their turn in the aura, it 1) doesn't get triggered when they first enter the aura, nor 2) does it roll SAVEDMG or HEAL.

AURA: 1 friend; Healing Spirit; IF: FACTION(friend); SAVEO: wisdom DC 1 (M); SAVEDMG: -1d6;
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AURA: 1 friend; Healing Spirit; IF: FACTION(friend); SAVEO: WIS DC 100; HEAL: 1d6;


Thoughts?

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If you use better combat effects it is Healing Spirit; AURA: 1 friend; IF: FACTION(friend); REGENA: 1d6; REGEN: 1d6

Aura Effect v1.5
* Re-implement alternate distance calculation for users of FG Classic
* HOTFIX Aug 3 2021: Fix for Classic still not working. At this time, it only works when the GM moves the token.
* HOTFIX Aug 3 2021: Fix for player movement. Should now work fully in Unity and Classic.
Click here to see raw code changes

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Originally Posted by bmos

Aura Effect v1.5
* Re-implement alternate distance calculation for users of FG Classic
* HOTFIX Aug 3 2021: Fix for Classic still not working. At this time, it only works when the GM moves the token.
* HOTFIX Aug 3 2021: Fix for player movement. Should now work fully in Unity and Classic.
Click here to see raw code changes

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So if we use Unity, we don't need this update?

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Originally Posted by MrDDT

So if we use Unity, we don't need this update?

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Correct. For Unity users it is the same as v1.4. Because of this I didn't bother uploading it to the Forge.

Re: Aura Effect v1.5 from post #535, Fantasy Grounds Classic, 5E ruleset, no other extensions running

Hey bmos, thanks a ton for the update to get this extension working in FGC again! So far it's working great, the only thing I'm seeing is a bit of odd behavior with Large creatures - it's almost like auras don't translate across diagonals with them? Both bestowing and receiving effects.

https://i.imgur.com/tRQycXn.jpg

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- Red dragon has an AURA: 5 foe flame aura. It properly applies to A, but doesn't hit B for some reason. C is outside the range. If I move creature B down one space, B now receives the flame effect.
- Creature B has an AURA: 5 all lightning immunity aura. It properly applies to A and C, but doesn't hit the dragon. If I move creature B down once space, the lightning-immune effect now applies to the dragon.
- I believe this issue is directly related to the dragon being large, because B's lightning-immunity aura DOES properly hit creature C, despite them being diagonal to each other. So this aura definitely works diagonally if both creatures are medium.
- It's definitely not a faction/targeting thing since if creature B is moved down a space, all the auras apply properly. It's just when B and the dragon are diagonal to each other that the auras don't work.

This isn't a huge deal or anything - I'm just happy to get a Classic version working again! - but just something I noticed. I think I remember some issue with Large creatures being discussed way back in this thread, but I took a quick browse and couldn't find if there'd been a solution or not.

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Originally Posted by Rades

Re: Aura Effect v1.5 from post #535, Fantasy Grounds Classic, 5E ruleset, no other extensions running

Hey bmos, thanks a ton for the update to get this extension working in FGC again! So far it's working great, the only thing I'm seeing is a bit of odd behavior with Large creatures - it's almost like auras don't translate across diagonals with them? Both bestowing and receiving effects.

https://i.imgur.com/tRQycXn.jpg

Details from the above screenshot:
- Red dragon has an AURA: 5 foe flame aura. It properly applies to A, but doesn't hit B for some reason. C is outside the range. If I move creature B down one space, B now receives the flame effect.
- Creature B has an AURA: 5 all lightning immunity aura. It properly applies to A and C, but doesn't hit the dragon. If I move creature B down once space, the lightning-immune effect now applies to the dragon.
- I believe this issue is directly related to the dragon being large, because B's lightning-immunity aura DOES properly hit creature C, despite them being diagonal to each other. So this aura definitely works diagonally if both creatures are medium.
- It's definitely not a faction/targeting thing since if creature B is moved down a space, all the auras apply properly. It's just when B and the dragon are diagonal to each other that the auras don't work.

This isn't a huge deal or anything - I'm just happy to get a Classic version working again! - but just something I noticed. I think I remember some issue with Large creatures being discussed way back in this thread, but I took a quick browse and couldn't find if there'd been a solution or not.

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Was this not the case for v0.4?

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Originally Posted by bmos

Was this not the case for v0.4?

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Oh was it? It honestly might have been, I'm not sure. It's been a long time since the v0.4 version so I didn't remember if that was also a problem back then. If it's just a limitation of FG Classic that can't be fixed, then that's fine, glad to have it confirmed! (I just happened to test with a Large creature yesterday and was getting confused until I realized it was the diagonals, so thought I'd post here to find out more.)

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Originally Posted by Rades

Oh was it? It honestly might have been, I'm not sure. It's been a long time since the v0.4 version so I didn't remember if that was also a problem back then. If it's just a limitation of FG Classic that can't be fixed, then that's fine, glad to have it confirmed! (I just happened to test with a Large creature yesterday and was getting confused until I realized it was the diagonals, so thought I'd post here to find out more.)

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I'm sure it can be fixed, I was just trying to figure out if I should be looking for the fix in the old code or just figuring it out from scratch. I'll test v0.4 and see if it's the same way.

EDIT: it is the same in v0.4; all creatures are effectively medium.

Aura Effect v1.6
* Improve diagonal and large creature distance detection in FG Classic using code from GKEnialb's Token Height Indicator extension. Does not require that extension (which is FG Unity-only)
Click here to see raw code changes

EDIT: As with v1.5, there is no benefit or detriment to using this with Unity. It performs the same as v1.4 in Unity.

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Originally Posted by bmos

Aura Effect v1.6
* Improve diagonal and large creature distance detection in FG Classic using code from GKEnialb's Token Height Indicator extension. Does not require that extension (which is FG Unity-only)
Click here to see raw code changes

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Does FGU people need this update?

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Originally Posted by MrDDT

Does FGU people need this update?

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No, see last part here: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...420#post614420

Though it doesn't hurt to download it :) But you can subscribe to it in the forge, then you won't need to figure out anymore whether or not you need to download a new version since updates happen automatically then :)

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Originally Posted by Kelrugem

No, see last part here: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...420#post614420

Though it doesn't hurt to download it :) But you can subscribe to it in the forge, then you won't need to figure out anymore whether or not you need to download a new version since updates happen automatically then :)

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Sounds awesome in theory, however, because this EXT is very picky, I like to know what is being changed. If 1.4 is currently working as intended. Updating to another version which I'm not sure if it will work or not and where their might be an error. I would rather know if it has any changes for FGU or not.

One of the major flaws of the auto update is it doesn't tell you which one is updated. You also can't pick it at the updater.
So I have to turn off auto updating for and only updated it if I think its going to be something I need to update. Which in this case I would only know by reading the updates.

I love the option to autoupdate, I just don't like how its done well. You end up having to read about the changes (and issues or bugs etc) after you've already been "updated", without really know which one was updated. So when you have like 80+ exts and something is updated it can be a pain in the butt. Don't even get me started on EXTs that move from DATA folder to the VAULT to DATA to the VAULT without warning.

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Originally Posted by MrDDT

Don't even get me started on EXTs that move from DATA folder to the VAULT to DATA to the VAULT without warning.

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Hopefully this is not going to be an issue anymore since now that setting is for the entire ext rather than per-build.

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Originally Posted by MrDDT

One of the major flaws of the auto update is it doesn't tell you which one is updated.

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Agreed! I'd love to have better feedback in that regard from the auto updater.

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Originally Posted by MrDDT

Does FGU people need this update?

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As Kelrugem said (thanks Kel), no (although it works fine in FGU and behaves just like v1.4).

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Originally Posted by MrDDT

Sounds awesome in theory, however, because this EXT is very picky, I like to know what is being changed. If 1.4 is currently working as intended. Updating to another version which I'm not sure if it will work or not and where their might be an error. I would rather know if it has any changes for FGU or not.

One of the major flaws of the auto update is it doesn't tell you which one is updated. You also can't pick it at the updater.
So I have to turn off auto updating for and only updated it if I think its going to be something I need to update. Which in this case I would only know by reading the updates.

I love the option to autoupdate, I just don't like how its done well. You end up having to read about the changes (and issues or bugs etc) after you've already been "updated", without really know which one was updated. So when you have like 80+ exts and something is updated it can be a pain in the butt. Don't even get me started on EXTs that move from DATA folder to the VAULT to DATA to the VAULT without warning.

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Certainly, it would be nice if the updater would show the name of the extensions/mod rather than their ID :)

I do not think though that one can completely avoid forums for extensions; for notifying about updates (especially their content) you still need to visit the forums, similar to FG updates. My personal wish is that there should be a FG pop-up, listing all updates (but if the forge is included in such a pop-up, then SmiteWorks would need to approve all the Forge's update texts which just add to the maintenance; hence, very unlikely that this will happen). Therefore no way around forums and then the only suggestion is to avoid using sooo many extensions in order to reduce the workload of checking updates and so on :) (though especially 5e users seem to have such an extreme number of used extensions; may be better to consolidate extensions into one, then the users have it easier to check forum threads and so on. But this is up to the devs)

With that I also want to say: Treat the forge updates like official FG updates. Do not update immediately, especially not right before a session. Try to read about updates before you update (this is how I do it; I always read the patch notes first) :)

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Originally Posted by Kelrugem

Treat the forge updates like official FG updates. Do not update immediately, especially not right before a session. Try to read about updates before you update (this is how I do it; I always read the patch notes first) :)

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My ideal UI for this would be for the updater to pop up a list of Forge updates. Each one could have a "forum link" button and an update button. There could also be an update all button for the lazy/optimistic.
I think having a "forum link" would get around that issue of additional approval work since the forum already has moderators.

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Originally Posted by bmos

My ideal UI for this would be for the updater to pop up a list of Forge updates. Each one could have a "forum link" button and an update button. There could also be an update all button for the lazy/optimistic.
I think having a "forum link" would get around that issue of additional approval work since the forum already has moderators.

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Oh, yes, that sounds nice :) We should maybe write that into the wish list of the forge :D (EDIT: Just added that to the wishlist of the forge :) )

Hi,

you think it will be usefull to have a Word like document or Google doc for all working effect done by the community?

Do we have a list of aura effects anywhere so I don't reinvent the wheel.

Well it's ruleset dependent, so perhaps users from each ruleset should make a thread for those.

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Originally Posted by bmos

Well it's ruleset dependent, so perhaps users from each ruleset should make a thread for those.

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5e ruleset

thanks for your good work!

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Originally Posted by plap3014

5e ruleset

thanks for your good work!

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If you start a thread, post a link in the thread here to help others find it :)

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Originally Posted by bmos

If you start a thread, post a link in the thread here to help others find it :)

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as per request:

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...488#post614488

regards

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Originally Posted by bmos

Aura Effect v1.6
* Improve diagonal and large creature distance detection in FG Classic using code from GKEnialb's Token Height Indicator extension. Does not require that extension (which is FG Unity-only)
Click here to see raw code changes

EDIT: As with v1.5, there is no benefit or detriment to using this with Unity. It performs the same as v1.4 in Unity.

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Thanks for the update!!

Aura Effect v1.7
* Add full support for PFRPG2 by resolving error message "[ERROR] Unable to find effect to remove" when AURA effect duration expired with targets in range. Thanks to Montis for reporting.
* Set duration field of all FROMAURA effects to 0 rather than mirroring the AURA effect (since AURA effect deletion will remove FROMAURA effects anyway).
* Remove compatibility code for old versions of AURA Effect. If you are upgrading from a version prior to v1.2, you should manually remove any FROMAURA effects before playing your next session.
Click here to see raw code changes

This is a great addon that my bard will love for Inspire Courage. Thanks alot!

Here is a feature request: An AURA type that only works once, as in anyone leaving the aura will not get it back when they re-enter. This would be useful for Invisibility Sphere type of auras.

Any maybe even the other way around: An AURA type that keeps working when a creature leaves the aura (would work better for the Inspire Courage bard as allies stay inspired even when they leave the initial 60" area).

I am trying to figure out how to use Aura Effect to automate Aura of Conquest. This is what I have so far... AURA: 10 foe; Aura of Conquest; IF: FACTION(foe); SAVEO: wisdom DC 15 ; Frightened

All this does is put an icon on the targeted foes but when I go to roll the saving throw and fail it does not apply the Frightened condtion. I am new to FG/FGU 5e system so I am trying to piece this together from the effects wiki and what was posted for this extension.
Any guidence would be helpful if it is even possible. I know some things just have to be played out manually.

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Originally Posted by meadegendar

I am trying to figure out how to use Aura Effect to automate Aura of Conquest. This is what I have so far... AURA: 10 foe; Aura of Conquest; IF: FACTION(foe); SAVEO: wisdom DC 15 ; Frightened

All this does is put an icon on the targeted foes but when I go to roll the saving throw and fail it does not apply the Frightened condtion. I am new to FG/FGU 5e system so I am trying to piece this together from the effects wiki and what was posted for this extension.
Any guidence would be helpful if it is even possible. I know some things just have to be played out manually.

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SAVEO is not from this extension and would roll the save automatically if it was working. Are you using that extension?

that's what I get for not paying attention to the source. What I am using is Advance Effects, I purchase the Equip effects (grimm press) and Aura Effects. I was trying to find an example of structure to build the effect using the if statement. I assumed that would be needed since the aura is conditional based on wisdom save. Still new to FG/FGU and trying to learn the forums. Spent the last year using Foundry VTT and time to change to a system that has all that I need to run my games.