Map Parcel Extension [Fantasy Grounds Unity]

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Originally Posted by MrDDT

Email went out through DMsG to all owners of the ext, it was also 2 weeks on sale.

FORGE also has a limit of how often we can put them on sale. I'm sure they will go on sale again (maybe not as good but pretty good for this one)

That's a good call on making a post on the forums next time, we will be sure to do that.

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Thank you for the reply. I must have missed the email (sometimes I don't look so closely at updates from DMsGuild, GP or Fantasy Grounds, I glance and move on), and I just did a search, but couldn't find any emails related to this. You were right. Somehow I thought the PDF said 25th to 27th, but the PDF on DMsG said 20th - 27th. My bad on that.

Anyway, it's not that big a deal for me personally. As I said, I got a lot of good use out of all those extensions, and even if I have to buy them again at some point, I got my money's worth out of them. As it is, I'm trying to move to Savage Worlds anyway.

Anyway, thank you, Mr. DDT for YOUR excellent work and for taking time to reply and correct where I was wrong.

SilentRuin: as always, thank you for outstanding contributions to Fantasy Grounds. I had a lot of fun with your extensions. If I decide to run 5e again, I'll surely pick them up again.

Hi,

I noticed the magic bonus to AC for magic armors is not calculated into NPCs AC when equipping them with a magical piece of armor (or shield); only the base AC is taken into account (i.e. a +2 Plate armor only gives 18 AC and not the correct 20).

I know this can be easily solved by just manually changing the base AC on the item or the total AC of the NPC in question, but just wanted to report it in case it's an easy fix.

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Originally Posted by Nalistar

Hi,

I noticed the magic bonus to AC for magic armors is not calculated into NPCs AC when equipping them with a magical piece of armor (or shield); only the base AC is taken into account (i.e. a +2 Plate armor only gives 18 AC and not the correct 20).

I know this can be easily solved by just manually changing the base AC on the item or the total AC of the NPC in question, but just wanted to report it in case it's an easy fix.

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I’ll have to test when I get a chance as some things have that plus in DB and it’s applied at runtime. I simply don’t remember and will have to test tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by Nalistar

Hi,

I noticed the magic bonus to AC for magic armors is not calculated into NPCs AC when equipping them with a magical piece of armor (or shield); only the base AC is taken into account (i.e. a +2 Plate armor only gives 18 AC and not the correct 20).

I know this can be easily solved by just manually changing the base AC on the item or the total AC of the NPC in question, but just wanted to report it in case it's an easy fix.

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Yea I tested it - Plate Armor +2 puts an effect out that applies bonus at runtime. The AC will not reflect that in main page. Works as it should.

I have been using MapParcel in my 4e game for a while now and it works pretty good. However, I recently bought the extension Shops made by teamtwohy. When I move a parcel to the shop window I get the following error:

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[10/28/2024 7:48:44 PM] MEASURE: LOAD - PART 2 - 12.0419317
[10/28/2024 7:48:52 PM] s'link_record_header - DEPRECATED - 2024-03-05'
[10/28/2024 7:48:52 PM] s'anchor_record_header_right - DEPRECATED - 2024-03-05'
[10/28/2024 7:48:52 PM] s'icon_record_locked - DEPRECATED - 2024-03-05'
[10/28/2024 7:48:52 PM] s'string_record_name - DEPRECATED - 2024-03-05'
[10/28/2024 7:48:52 PM] s'sub_record_header - DEPRECATED - 2024-03-05'
[10/28/2024 7:48:52 PM] s'close_recordsheet - DEPRECATED - 2024-03-05'
[10/28/2024 7:49:21 PM] [ERROR]  Handler error: [string "MapParcel:scripts/manager_mapparcel.lua"]:507: attempt to call field 'isRecordDisplayClass' (a nil value)

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Can this be fixed? It doesn't seem game breaking, but I would rather go without that error if possible.

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Originally Posted by Starwolf

I have been using MapParcel in my 4e game for a while now and it works pretty good. However, I recently bought the extension Shops made by teamtwohy. When I move a parcel to the shop window I get the following error:

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[10/28/2024 7:48:44 PM] MEASURE: LOAD - PART 2 - 12.0419317
[10/28/2024 7:48:52 PM] s'link_record_header - DEPRECATED - 2024-03-05'
[10/28/2024 7:48:52 PM] s'anchor_record_header_right - DEPRECATED - 2024-03-05'
[10/28/2024 7:48:52 PM] s'icon_record_locked - DEPRECATED - 2024-03-05'
[10/28/2024 7:48:52 PM] s'string_record_name - DEPRECATED - 2024-03-05'
[10/28/2024 7:48:52 PM] s'sub_record_header - DEPRECATED - 2024-03-05'
[10/28/2024 7:48:52 PM] s'close_recordsheet - DEPRECATED - 2024-03-05'
[10/28/2024 7:49:21 PM] [ERROR]  Handler error: [string "MapParcel:scripts/manager_mapparcel.lua"]:507: attempt to call field 'isRecordDisplayClass' (a nil value)

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Can this be fixed? It doesn't seem game breaking, but I would rather go without that error if possible.

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While I don't actively support anything but 5E (only thing I play)... this was MY BAD THEY CHANGED FUNCTION NAME ON ME. IT WILL BE FIXED IN NEXT RELEASE.

Actually, it's the other way around. RecordDataManager is the new one (RecordDataManager.isRecordTypeDisplayClass); and the LibraryData just points to that one.

Regards,
JPG

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Originally Posted by moon wizard

actually, it's the other way around. Recorddatamanager is the new one (recorddatamanager.isrecordtypedisplayclass); and the librarydata just points to that one.

Regards,
jpg

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my bad they changed function name on me. It will be fixed in next release.

5E was still using the old call; I went ahead and updated with today's update to use the new call like I mentioned above.

Regards,
JPG

My bad they changed function name on me. It will be fixed in next release.

My bad they changed function name on me. It will be fixed in next release.

V1.59 - BUG - FGU changed the name of a function that was "almost" the same as it was when they moved it - I caught 2 of the calls and missed one of those renames in my code. Fixed.


Looks like this was all my fault Starwolf thanks for finding it. FGU not only moved these types of functions but slightly renamed them also - had 2 correct in my code but this 3rd one still had the old function name even though it was calling it from the new place. My bad. Sometime after this message GP will deliver the new update.

[Essentially that means it was fixed in the first V1.59 release earlier today by going back to the old call structure and is now using the new call structure (correctly) in this latest release of V1.59 - users will not know the difference its a degraded function sort of thing that currently still works with the old stuff - confusing - but there you have it, think how confused I feel]

Since the last FGU "lock" things you don't want locked in PCs - they have somehow made the NPC sheet uses of char_inventory (previously generic code) somehow sensitive to the different locks. You would think they would be consistent and triggering any lock would trigger the relative callbacks but NOOOO. They are killing me by making it easier for me. Easier to waste huge amounts of time.

Until I can figure it out - to edit any NPC inventories in the sheet tab you will have to set the Lock to what you want it - exit the NPC sheet - come back up in it - and THEN you can edit it because it respects the lock coming up but not when actually triggering it.

I'm tired of messing with it for now and this is the work around. Lock - close sheet - come back in and NPC inventory sheet will behave like PC inventory locked sheet. Unlock - close sheet - come back in and NPC inventory sheet will behave like PC inventory unlocked sheet.

Its bat **** crazy time again.

V1.61 - FGU update - they changed how the locked button functions so that my inventory sheets no longer respect it in npc/vehicle sheets. Fixed.

Hi I have been having this problem on and off with this extension for a while now.
have not posted much at all here because the system i used was not one that was originally supported.
through out my testing i could not determine if this issue was the a conflict with another extension or just with the ruleset i use.

I use 3.5/pathfinder in my games and when i leave a monster on the combat tracker sometimes its speed entry in the combat tracker instance of the npc record becomes corrupted
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This only happens when Map parsel is used in the campaign.
This curruption of the DB persists after extension has been removed.

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Originally Posted by Arimil508

Hi I have been having this problem on and off with this extension for a while now.
have not posted much at all here because the system i used was not one that was originally supported.
through out my testing i could not determine if this issue was the a conflict with another extension or just with the ruleset i use.

I use 3.5/pathfinder in my games and when i leave a monster on the combat tracker sometimes its speed entry in the combat tracker instance of the npc record becomes corrupted
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This only happens when Map parsel is used in the campaign.
This curruption of the DB persists after extension has been removed.

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Something you have local with some conflict or unknown thing. I don't support those but I do have a secret under the table set of test campaigns I run in things that I had put in the extnesion.xml as unsupported rulesets (only 5e is supported as its hard enough to do that one let alone deal with the whole other level of crazy in other rulesets and their extensions which I do not use - hence do not support).

All I can tell you is my little test world still looks fine and has no problems in my TEST 3.5 campaign. I suspect you've got some crazy going on from some other extension that does not play well with others. As you can see my main sheets in both PC and NPC (with inventory tabs) don't look like yours. What is causing it in your world - no idea.

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For sure I mess with the NPC CT for combat groups and maybe assistant GM but neither of those are usable outside of 5E. Not sure what is going on though - best I can suggest is to not use map parcels in 3.5 mix of what your running.

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Originally Posted by Arimil508

Hi I have been having this problem on and off with this extension for a while now.
have not posted much at all here because the system i used was not one that was originally supported.
through out my testing i could not determine if this issue was the a conflict with another extension or just with the ruleset i use.

I use 3.5/pathfinder in my games and when i leave a monster on the combat tracker sometimes its speed entry in the combat tracker instance of the npc record becomes corrupted
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This only happens when Map parsel is used in the campaign.
This curruption of the DB persists after extension has been removed.

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This is what I have running for that TEST 3.5 campaign if it helps. But gist is I will have no clue. Unsupported for that reason.

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at the vary least thanks for doing a quick look.

New Video on Page 1.

Renamed to "Feature: Map Parcel" for extensions loading into campaign.

Next time its delivered.

Found this extension while I was looking for a way to give my fresh party control over their newly bought beast of burden & cart where they can store a bunch of their stuff on the road.

Before I throw $25 at the two extensions, I just want to make sure it does what I'm looking for -- can I make a "Cart" NPC or page for them, and the players will be allowed free access to open that panel and drag-and-drop various inventory items between it and themselves? It sounds like I need both Map Parcel and Polymorphism to do that.

Lots of the other listed features are cool, but the players being able to manage an inventory that's separate from their personal sheet is the most vital for me here.

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Originally Posted by Serbaayuu

Found this extension while I was looking for a way to give my fresh party control over their newly bought beast of burden & cart where they can store a bunch of their stuff on the road.

Before I throw $25 at the two extensions, I just want to make sure it does what I'm looking for -- can I make a "Cart" NPC or page for them, and the players will be allowed free access to open that panel and drag-and-drop various inventory items between it and themselves? It sounds like I need both Map Parcel and Polymorphism to do that.

Lots of the other listed features are cool, but the players being able to manage an inventory that's separate from their personal sheet is the most vital for me here.

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Never waste money on extensions - always write your own like I do! And if you can't then look for a free one that does what you want. And only if you can't find one that is free, and you feel like taking a HUGE RISK (EXTENSIONS = RISK) then... and only then... Think again.

And if your still committed to wasting your money on extension go ahead knowing they will be broken from time to time by FG updates and drive you nuts.

But yes, it will do what you want as far as I understand you. Plus Grim Press puts these things on sale, sales are the bane of me right up there with users!

Plus, if I have not YET convinced you buying an extension is crazy, Grim press puts out videos on my extensions including this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag8Z...LW_CGrWunn074z

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Originally Posted by Serbaayuu

Found this extension while I was looking for a way to give my fresh party control over their newly bought beast of burden & cart where they can store a bunch of their stuff on the road.

Before I throw $25 at the two extensions, I just want to make sure it does what I'm looking for -- can I make a "Cart" NPC or page for them, and the players will be allowed free access to open that panel and drag-and-drop various inventory items between it and themselves? It sounds like I need both Map Parcel and Polymorphism to do that.

Lots of the other listed features are cool, but the players being able to manage an inventory that's separate from their personal sheet is the most vital for me here.

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I don't know what SR is saying, I'm pretty sure he doesn't know what he is saying.

You need both Map Parcel and GM Assistant to give the options for a player to fully move stuff to the NPC and back to the PC.

Map Parcel gives the NPC inventory.
GM Assistant allows the player to control it fully (like a GM). By dragging the creature onto the PC portrait in the top left.

Polymorphism doesn't do anything with this unless they are changing into that creature and that's a whole new animal (pun intended).




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So after talking to SR, seems like he was giving the option on how to make it work without needing any other exts other than MP. You wouldn't create an NPC, you would make a parcel giving players access to it, then putting an image token of a cart on the map that is linked on the parcel.

The players can move that token around on the map and move items in an out of the parcel (if they have access by dragging it and dropping it on the players or making it public).

This would not be an "NPC" per say as it would not be in the CT, nor would it have the options that a CT creature can have (like effects tracking, HP etc).

Thank you both for the advice, making my own is always a thought, but I spent an entire 5-6 hours just adding some extra proficiency-bubbles to the Languages tab of the character sheet the other day for a little table rule of mine, so an entire working inventory management system might be beyond me lol.

By the way, the reason I mentioned Polymorphism is because on the Map Parcel Forge page it says:

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Polymorphism Integration: If using the Polymorphism extension, players can access NPC inventories—perfect for sidekicks and companions.

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But if GM Assistant is what actually does that, I'm glad I asked first.

I realize FG updates things essentially at random so yeah, relying on extensions is not the safest thing in the world. I barely use any though, so this would be the only big one that could cause me any problems in the long run.

SilentRuin, if I did buy Map Parcel (and possibly GM Assistant as MrDDT suggested I may need to do what I like), you as the creator do receive payment for them, right? I've never bought anything on Fantasy Grounds Forge before, so I don't really know how it works.

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Originally Posted by Serbaayuu

Thank you both for the advice, making my own is always a thought, but I spent an entire 5-6 hours just adding some extra proficiency-bubbles to the Languages tab of the character sheet the other day for a little table rule of mine, so an entire working inventory management system might be beyond me lol.

By the way, the reason I mentioned Polymorphism is because on the Map Parcel Forge page it says:



But if GM Assistant is what actually does that, I'm glad I asked first.

I realize FG updates things essentially at random so yeah, relying on extensions is not the safest thing in the world. I barely use any though, so this would be the only big one that could cause me any problems in the long run.

SilentRuin, if I did buy Map Parcel (and possibly GM Assistant as MrDDT suggested I may need to do what I like), you as the creator do receive payment for them, right? I've never bought anything on Fantasy Grounds Forge before, so I don't really know how it works.

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SR is the creator he does great work. He has published them under Grim Press (which is who I work for as the EXT guy and many other things I do over there).

So the way it works in this exact case would be Smiteworks (They are the ones that made FG) takes their cut, GP takes a cut, and SR gets the rest.
I'm not exactly sure the breakdown of these as a % though.

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Originally Posted by Serbaayuu

Thank you both for the advice, making my own is always a thought, but I spent an entire 5-6 hours just adding some extra proficiency-bubbles to the Languages tab of the character sheet the other day for a little table rule of mine, so an entire working inventory management system might be beyond me lol.

By the way, the reason I mentioned Polymorphism is because on the Map Parcel Forge page it says:



But if GM Assistant is what actually does that, I'm glad I asked first.

I realize FG updates things essentially at random so yeah, relying on extensions is not the safest thing in the world. I barely use any though, so this would be the only big one that could cause me any problems in the long run.

SilentRuin, if I did buy Map Parcel (and possibly GM Assistant as MrDDT suggested I may need to do what I like), you as the creator do receive payment for them, right? I've never bought anything on Fantasy Grounds Forge before, so I don't really know how it works.

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Yeah that was not written by me - I originally just cut/paste it from Grim Press description - map parcels is what does the inventory. I've removed the polymorphism reference on page 1 thanks for noticing that. Been there forever.

Yes, I get paid a part of the forge proceeds but as anyone who has heard my diatribes in Grim Press discord and other places... I do these extensions for me. My players suggested I sell them here about 5 years or so ago so I did under the assumption users would find bugs before my games did.

Wow was that naive :(

Users are the worst! Anyway, I put in what I want as a grab bag of things I need as I find them (usually in Generic Actions) so I'm not really governed or driven by user needs - only my own. As MrDDT can attest :)

Thank you both! I have a clearer idea of everything now. I will chat about this with my players and consider buying the extensions before our next session. I appreciate someone who makes tools for their own use and shares them, it's always great to see. :D

Hey there, updating since I did end up buying those 2 extensions. They work well and I think my players will be happy with them, but I have what is either a bug report or something needing clarification:

It seems like any NPC's Inventory page does not calculate their Encumbrance values until they've been placed into an encounter map. Once placed into a map and the map-specific instance of that NPC token is checked, they have the expected values in their Encumbrance fields - check the screenshot. The Friendly Spider on the left is the sheet for the NPC opened from the NPCs list, while the Friendly Spider on the right is the token/sheet opened by double-clicking the spider's token on the map in the background.

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So, is this a bug with the NPC sheet? I'd expect any NPC with a Strength score to have those fields auto-calculated.

Using an instance of the NPC on a map is OK for monsters, but for something like the party's pack animal or other shared inventory carried over long distances, we'll want to use the NPC from the NPC list rather than having to make a new token in every single map. (Sorry if I'm using FGU terminology about tokens and NPCs wrong - hopefully my meaning is clear.)

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Originally Posted by Serbaayuu

Hey there, updating since I did end up buying those 2 extensions. They work well and I think my players will be happy with them, but I have what is either a bug report or something needing clarification:

It seems like any NPC's Inventory page does not calculate their Encumbrance values until they've been placed into an encounter map. Once placed into a map and the map-specific instance of that NPC token is checked, they have the expected values in their Encumbrance fields - check the screenshot. The Friendly Spider on the left is the sheet for the NPC opened from the NPCs list, while the Friendly Spider on the right is the token/sheet opened by double-clicking the spider's token on the map in the background.

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So, is this a bug with the NPC sheet? I'd expect any NPC with a Strength score to have those fields auto-calculated.

Using an instance of the NPC on a map is OK for monsters, but for something like the party's pack animal or other shared inventory carried over long distances, we'll want to use the NPC from the NPC list rather than having to make a new token in every single map. (Sorry if I'm using FGU terminology about tokens and NPCs wrong - hopefully my meaning is clear.)

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Encumbrance is triggered by FG code functionality ( for PCs and tricked into working for NPCs) and like many things is only triggered when it is in CT. I’m not sure you are saying it’s required to be on map and Ct or not ever putting things in CT without being on map or not. For sure this will NOT do encumbrance outside of CT. Some data is CT only generated data and I “think” encumbrance is one of those. Not sure what happens if you copy CT entry back into NPC list but the NPC list will not do encumbrance.

Excellent suggestion on dragging the CT entry back to the NPC list. I just tried that, and for some reason it looks like it saves the encumbrance data (I guess it just needs to generate the sums 1 time). I was then able to drag the copied NPC back onto the combat tracker and use it as I'd normally expect to do.

So, for stuff like this, I will just create an NPC, put them on the combat tracker once, copy them back into the NPC list, and keep that copied one as the final version.

Seems like a silly quirk of the engine but I can live with that.

Thank you again for the help!

Seems like the loot dropping functionality might have broken on a recent update? the packages on maps are still functional but npcs dropping loot seems to have stopped, testing on the 5e demo campaign without anything but the defaults

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Originally Posted by CassMerry

Seems like the loot dropping functionality might have broken on a recent update? the packages on maps are still functional but npcs dropping loot seems to have stopped, testing on the 5e demo campaign without anything but the defaults

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Works fine for me. Are you sure you have the LOOT template defined and the inventory has items to drop? I tested by putting a dire wolf in CT and map - then added 1 day of rations item into its inventory - then set its wounds in CT to max which killed it - the bag dropped - it contained 1 day of rations. As long as your map parcel options are correct, some template for your NPC exists, and it has anything to drop - then it should work. Default being "[MP] LOOT" with empty default parameters I recommend for loot bags. Not going to cover all the rules for those - but appears to work fine.

Deleted and reinstalled a bunch of files and now it's working, so seems like it was something weird going on with my setup, but yeah my bad!

V1.67 - Update - New option "Add NPC Random Treasure to inventory based on [MP] tables" defaulted to off. Will add default treasure to NPCs (not if polymorphism, a type or effect Object, or has inventory already) when placed in CT find table (case insensitive) named "[MP] <NPC name>" or "[MP] <NPC type>" or choose tables based on CR value where [ <NPC type>] is also optional to append to the relevant table: "[MP] CR:00-04[ <NPC type>]"; "[MP] CR:05-10[ <NPC type>]"; "[MP] CR:11-16[ <NPC type>]"; "[MP] CR:17+[ <NPC type>]". Don't plan on much support - it respects the table data expected (and I mean tables are picky of syntax) or fails to do anything. As usual this was for me and mine. The forum thread has an example mod file with tables I use (beast and undead ones are blank so that those types of NPC will never drop random treasure in inventory based on CR tables - always checks name then type then CR type then CR tables in that order).

Honestly, did this because I was annoyed at populating a campaign with my encounters backed up from combat groups. Just wanted something simply so I don't have to put out loot unless I really want to. No I'm not going to explain it more - Yes I might make a quick video - No you don't get more explanation than this. Well you get this example .mod file with the tables I'll be using in my game - references DMG 5E stuff. Don't like my tables? Go make your own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hwButw67Zw