Pathfinder RPG Ruleset

Could anyone port this for the standard 3.5 or 3.5 Foundation ruleset? That would be greatly appreciated.
I'm mastering "random" groups from time to time and they always have to download the full 3.5_JPG ruleset, it started to get really annoying... (yeah, my connection isn't the best). If they only had to download the expansion, that would really speed things up for me.

d20_JPG is in the process of being merged with 3.5E, and I guess when that happens the players won't have to download the full ruleset from the GM.

You could upload a clean cache of your game somewhere in advance for your players to download from though. (google groups or the like)
Just a suggestion.

I simply can not plop down $115 for the ultimate license (I already have the Full) if I can't have PathfinderRPG ruleset support. PathfinderRPG pretty much all I play anymore and I invest about $50/mo. in subscriptions at Paizo. I have a mac, but I have FG installed in Bootcamp/Parallels. The minute FG can give me a PFRPG ruleset, they've got my money... the very instant.

The pathfinder ruleset is not official but it is very good. You can use it with the full license as the DM or the lite license as a player. YOu don't need the ultimate package.


Sigurd

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Originally Posted by Sigurd

The pathfinder ruleset is not official but it is very good. You can use it with the full license as the DM or the lite license as a player. YOu don't need the ultimate package.


Sigurd

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It may be very good, but is it supported? Is it being worked on and updated as things change with FGII? I can't even find where to download it anymore. I don't think I need the Ultimate release in order to use the ruleset, just that I need the Ultimate release to run Pathfinder Society modules for an online community that will definitely not buy their own clients. It's hard enough to get people together to play online without having to convince them also to pay for it. They're used to MapTools, which is free and is actively supporting PathfinderRPG. I would prefer to use FGII and happy to pay the premium for Ultimate, but not if I think that at any moment there might be an FGII update that breaks the unofficial ruleset and that there will not be a fix. See my point?

While I can't speak for the FG staff I don't think it will be supported any time soon. And Paizo said something along the lines that they wanted FG to be mac native in order to support it, so unless something happens there I don't really see any official support in the near future.

Of course, if JPG/moon_wizard was playing Pathfinder instead of 4e I'd bet we'd have a more frequently updated ruleset at least for PF. (wishful thinking^^)

Since neither of those are likely to happen soon, our group has settled with modifying the current d20_JPG ruleset and will likely incorporate the same changes when d20_JPG is merged with 3.5e/d20 in FG. (one can use the extension which is lying around on page 7 on this thread for the current d20_JPG.)

(There shouldn't be that many changes needed to make a workable PF edition of the merged 3.5 ruleset, though)

edit: That said, I'm not sure if there needs to be any support from Paizo for "just" a ruleset. With the OGL and Pathfinder Compatible License or even the Community Use Policy, there shouldn't need to be any 'official' involved as far as I know. Hero Lab (character generator) has supported Pathfinder for a long time and just became officially supported as of yesterday.

Perhaps enough demand from the community could push for a PF ruleset for Fantasy Grounds?

I'm sure ddavison or moon_wizard could give a more clear answer though.

Double post, but I just wanted to add this from a Fantasy Grounds thread at the Paizo forums.

Link.

Are there still discussions going on between Smiteworks USA and Paizo? (Unless that's confidential too)

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Originally Posted by Vic Wertz

Whoa there.

Somehow this thread had failed to attract my attention until now, and I sure wish that weren't the case, because it's loaded with misinformation.

Now, I can't reveal a lot about specific ongoing confidential discussions, but I can provide some general information.

First of all, our *long-term* goals with respect to tools such as character generators and virtual tabletops do indeed involve a high degree of platform agnosticism (not just a desire for Mac OS support). We want to encourage developers to make great tools that work well for you whether you've chosen to use them on Windows, Mac, Linux, or a mobile device. And we have a lot of ideas about how we can deliver great content to users of those tools, once those tools have evolved to the point where they can support our ideas. We also know that it's going to take a while to get there.

In the meantime, we are willing to discuss *nonexclusive* licenses that will allow the makers of current electronic tools to officially support the Pathfinder RPG.

Now, there are clearly some types of licensing requests that are easy to say yes to, and there are also some things we're not prepared to give away or license out at this time, but I'm confident that we could find ways for most professional software publishers to provide some level of official Pathfinder RPG support for their tools.

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This looks like progress and an option to not go down the D&D 4e route?

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Double post, but I just wanted to add this from a Fantasy Grounds thread at the Paizo forums.

Link.

Are there still discussions going on between Smiteworks USA and Paizo? (Unless that's confidential too)

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Well since basically all of the rules are OGL, I don't see why they (Smiteworks USA) can't release a Pathfinder Compatible ruleset with an updated rules module, bestiary module, spell module and magic item module as long as no IP material like world specific (Golarion) names aren't used.

There might be more to it, but I'm hoping it can be that simple.^^

Of course, to get a license like Hero Lab got, there are more requirements that need to be filled I guess.

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Well since basically all of the rules are OGL, I don't see why they (Smiteworks USA) can't release a Pathfinder Compatible ruleset with an updated rules module, bestiary module, spell module and magic item module as long as no IP material like world specific (Golarion) names aren't used.

There might be more to it, but I'm hoping it can be that simple.^^

Of course, to get a license like Hero Lab got, there are more requirements that need to be filled I guess.

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The first part is a legal concern. They don't publish content without licensing from the Publisher period. It is a matter of respect and makes sure SmiteWorks knows where they stand in regards to copyright.

Now that does not stop the community development of a ruleset for it. Something that has been discussed quite thoroughly in this thread. It just prevents them from including any content.

As to licensing, they have been working on obtaining it. To date, Paizo has simply not agreed to it yet.