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I am using the 4E ruleset from fouruglymonsters and the character sheet I am using is from that ruleset (built-in). I am not asking about automatic character generation (should have said character creation), but rather what information goes into each input field of the character sheet that comes with the 4E ruleset from fouruglymonsters.

If anyone is familiar with the 4E ruleset and built-in character sheet from fouruglymonsters, could you please take a look at the "Dwarven Fighter" from the "Keep on the Shadowfell" adventure and compare it to the values I have entered into the character sheet (image links are in previous post)? Especially the "Weapon/Implement" and "Powers" sections? I would appreciate some guidance. Thank you.

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Ham, you have to remember Power Attack is a binary. It's either on or off. You should do 2 Maul Entries, one with power attack and one without it. Right now your Maul entry has the attack without power attack and the damage entry with power attack.

Make one entry with just the weapon poficency (+2) as a bonus to hit, and the damage with no bonus (+0).

Then make another entry with no plus to hit and a +3 damage bonus. I would name that entry Maul (Power Atk).

Then the player could change the default entry for weapons between using the Maul entries as he wished when he attacked.

There should not be any Misc entries in Melee attack or Range attack. This is like a punch or bull rush, ect. No weapon profencies go here.

Dwarves have a speed of 5 and armor doesn't slow them down.

https://i105.photobucket.com/albums/.../CombatTab.png

On the powers page the damage for cleave should be 1 W not 0 W. I would change you "3 dmg" to STR damage.

https://i105.photobucket.com/albums/...e/PowerTab.png

From the Combat tab you can see if the player changes his Default weapon to 1 he is not using a power attack. If he changes it to 4 he is.

I would add a second attack to cleave that was 0W + Str for the second target.


I wouldn't make separate entries for each weapon for power attack / non power attack. I would make hot keys for power attack hit bonus, power attack damage bonus and add these to the modifier stack when making rolls.

I find that to be more intuitive than having 2 weapons and switching them all the time.

Actually to follow on a bit. Cleave's secondary attack can be added as a power so you can use the mini sheet to drag and drop the damage on the combat tracker - important if you are having the players roll by dropping on the tracker. You would set up the secondary attack for cleave like this in the 4E ruleset:

https://i105.photobucket.com/albums/...eaveMini-1.png

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Originally Posted by Tenian

I would add a second attack to cleave that was 0W + Str for the second target.


I wouldn't make separate entries for each weapon for power attack / non power attack. I would make hot keys for power attack hit bonus, power attack damage bonus and add these to the modifier stack when making rolls.

I find that to be more intuitive than having 2 weapons and switching them all the time.

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This is a good idea too. I have found most guys who take power attack tend to almost always use it, though, so you would seldom have to switch it. Either way works.

Is there an easy way for the user to add a secondary attack? It thougth it had to be in the power?

On the attack line, right-click, and choose Add Attack. You can specify a different default weapon, different attack and damage attributes, etc.

For example, Twin Strike. My ranger uses a bow most of the time, so the first attack uses my bow as default, is Dex vs AC, and 1W+0 damage. I then add a second attack that uses my shortsword stats, Str vs AC, and 1W+0 damage.

For our fighter's Passing Attack, his secondary attack has a +2 pip on the attack roll.

For Power Attack, you could put a -2 pip on the attack and +2 pip on the damage, but since it's usually on or off, I like the idea of a second weapon entry, like Griogre is using.

If you click on the attack line the radial includes "Add an attack" (delete as well I believe).

I think Add is the pointer arrow and delete is the hand.

Hi all!

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Thanks for the helpful replies Griogre, Tenian, and Xorn! Sorry about not getting back to this thread until now. I was messing around with that parser trying to figure it out and then decided to contribute to the community over on the FUM forum which took some time.

The interface is starting to make more sense now. I was trying to click the damage field to get it to switch dice, similar to the way you can switch from STR to DEX etc.

First, Griogre, thanks for pointing my many mistakes on the character sheet! My Maul entry is kind of comical is it not? I had both attack without "power attack modifier" and damage with "power attack modifier". It's cheating, but I am innocent of intent. I really screwed that one up. *chuckle* Also, thanks for pointing out that, "Dwarves have a speed of 5 and armor doesn't slow them down." the math on the premade character sheet is starting to make a little more sense. I appreciate you pointing out that, "On the powers page the damage for cleave should be 1 W not 0 W. I would change you "3 dmg" to STR damage.", since the damage is based on STR instead of a static number. Thank you.

Tenian said, "I would add a second attack to cleave that was 0W + Str for the second target." which is a very good idea. I like it.

I like how you can just add a second attack and only fill in the damage part with no dice selected ie 0[W]+STR, that way the damage is always based on the player's strength the way the rules say it should.

Xorn? Where should I put the +2 and - 2 pips for the attack rolls? In Griogre's image, he has the Maul power attack as the fourth weapon, but no +or- 2 pip. Should it be Atk=1d20 STR -2 vs. AC and Dmg=2d6 STR +2 for power attack? How come the book says this Dwarf fighter has a (Maul +6) for Basic Mele Attack, yet in the image for weapon #1 the basic attack is only +2 vs. AC? Why is the dagger +5 when using it as a melee weapon, rather than the +3 thrown weapon? What is the +Crit field used for(obviously it has something to do with critical hits, but to what end)?

In Griogre's post at #112 what is the little box next to "#1 Wpn:" used for? For the Dmg, does the number "1" in "1[W]+STR" stand for single handed weapon and two handed weapon as long as we are not talking about duel weild?

In Griogre's post at #114, he has the "Cleave (Secondary Damage) set as an implement. Is that right? Unless, "#1 Imp:" stands for something else.

Anyway, thank you all very much for taking the time to reply to my queries. I know it takes a lot of time to post on these forums.

Cheers!

The box next to Wpn: is which weapon line on the Combat tab to use, if blank use the default indicated at the top.

The "pips" would be added on the attack and damage rolls for the power itself. If you're going to utilize a second weapon listing that included the Power Attack modifiers, it's not necessary. As every power could have a Power Attack version--I'd just use a second weapon as Griogre has.

For the dwarf in question, it should be +2 (maul prof) +1 (fighter 1h weap talent) and +3 strength.

The STR is accounted for, so you want +3 in the bonus box (to account for his proficiency and weapon talent). You would also include the enhancement bonus for a weapon there. (Note that 4E_JPG includes the 1/2 level bonus automatically, as well.)

Something that is specific to a power itself (like Careful Strike) you would use a +2 pip on the power's attack roll section. For something that only applies under certain circumstances (like a fighter's +2 attack on OAs) I would use a hotkey.