Introducing the new XCore Ruleset

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Originally Posted by Hjorimir

While we're on the topic, if you look at the [Martial Arts] Leg Sweep example, you can see that I have two rolls setup here. The first is to cover the Focus cost (n1) for using the power (it costs 5); the second is for the actual attack itself. Is there a way to combine the two roll strings into one? So with one roll I could both spend the 5 Focus and make the attack roll?

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You cant string rolls together.
Do you always incur cost when using leg sweep? We could modify the the marvel roll or create a marvelc roll which includes the cost calculation.

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Originally Posted by damned

For the half damage use the trick I showed you in the marvel roll above.
Try use the calc field to calculate the full damage so it would look something like this

Full Damage
damage [a]
[c]*[d]+[Ego|a]

Half Damage
damage ([b]/2)
[c]*[d]+[Ego|a]

see if that works

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This still isn't working for me. The damage here should be 3, but comes up 0 again. Image attached for reference.

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Originally Posted by damned

Because there are so many possible combinations here I think the best way to do this (best being simplest overall) would be to break it down into 2 rolls.
Attacker declares his target and their defense stat.
Defender "activates" their defense stat by double-clicking the appropriate stat (we would code a roll to do this)
Attacker does their attack roll and it will use that stat value and reset it to 0

If that would work we then a field to store this activated defense in. Does Karma need to be in the CT? I dont have to store it in CT but it might be best stored there.

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If I'm being honest, I think by the time you've gone to that trouble you already know what the target number for the attack would be. So, while I think the automation would work, because there's another manual step in the process it would actually prolong the resolution of the attack. I really appreciate the idea, but it seems like it wouldn't be worth your while to do that work.

To answer your final question, Karma isn't a must have in the CT (although it's kind of nice to see it at a glance to know which players/characters have that in their pocket for certain things).

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Originally Posted by damned

You cant string rolls together.
Do you always incur cost when using leg sweep? We could modify the the marvel roll or create a marvelc roll which includes the cost calculation.

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Yes, on a power like Leg Sweep, it always costs 5 Focus to use.

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Originally Posted by Hjorimir

This still isn't working for me. The damage here should be 3, but comes up 0 again. Image attached for reference.

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Your example will never work because we are referencing [d] and you have put this in [d] but other than that sometimes you have to fully qualify the references like this instead:
[Martial Arts|c]*[Martial Arts|d]+[Ego|a]
Note that this is in the CALC field for [a] and not in [c] or [d]

And this calculation also works
([Martial Arts|c]*[Martial Arts|d]+[Ego|a])/2

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Originally Posted by Hjorimir

If I'm being honest, I think by the time you've gone to that trouble you already know what the target number for the attack would be. So, while I think the automation would work, because there's another manual step in the process it would actually prolong the resolution of the attack. I really appreciate the idea, but it seems like it wouldn't be worth your while to do that work.

To answer your final question, Karma isn't a must have in the CT (although it's kind of nice to see it at a glance to know which players/characters have that in their pocket for certain things).

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OK. Im happy with that :pirate:
Im only asking about Karma if we were going to do my suggested defense "activate/roll" as we are not then it doesnt matter.

I have added a small change to the damage roll in XCore itself - eg not in the Marvel extension.

If you hold SHIFT when rolling it will apply Double damage.
If you hold ALT when rolling it will apply Half damage.

If this is desirable I will roll it out to the other damage rolls.

For the XCore Marvel extension I have added a new roll cmarvel [a]c#

This will deduct # from your n1 field which is useful if you are using n1 as Focus.
Do not use a formula for # just apply the number.

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Originally Posted by damned

For the XCore Marvel extension I have added a new roll cmarvel [a]c#

This will deduct # from your n1 field which is useful if you are using n1 as Focus.
Do not use a formula for # just apply the number.

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Thanks for both of these changes! I'm out for a day or so, but I'll be sure to test and report back ASAP!

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Originally Posted by damned

I have added a small change to the damage roll in XCore itself - eg not in the Marvel extension.

If you hold SHIFT when rolling it will apply Double damage.
If you hold ALT when rolling it will apply Half damage.

If this is desirable I will roll it out to the other damage rolls.

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This works. However, there's a small thing where the "big" damage number in the chatbox doesn't reflect that modifier. It does apply the correct amount of damage (double or half) to the target though. Just thought I'd give the feedback, but am THANKFUL for the new implementation.

See attached for an example. Damage dealt was 12 (correct). Note in damage roll indicates the double damage (12), but the larger number (to the right) was erroneously displayed as 6.

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Originally Posted by damned

For the XCore Marvel extension I have added a new roll cmarvel [a]c#

This will deduct # from your n1 field which is useful if you are using n1 as Focus.
Do not use a formula for # just apply the number.

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This works perfectly. Thanks much!!

For Marvel XCore is it possible to have someone really good here to set up all the coding so that someone such as myself (who's terrible at coding) can simply take that setup and enter my heroes and villains and story entries please. Does someone have a base template campaign they would be ready to share please?

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Originally Posted by Patou

For Marvel XCore is it possible to have someone really good here to set up all the coding so that someone such as myself (who's terrible at coding) can simply take that setup and enter my heroes and villains and story entries please. Does someone have a base template campaign they would be ready to share please?

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I have a library of all the rolls that I'm working up, but I think sharing that would violate copyright laws as all of the rolls have the rules out of the book implemented. That said, I'm happy to assist with some coding examples.

Here's a quick example to help get you started (see attached image).

Looking at the red annotations:
Daredevil has Attack Stance active, so I added a Temp Melee DMG Bonus of 2 (to reflect the power's effect) and added a Concentration effect to DD on the Combat Tracker for clarity.

Looking at the orange annotations:
Double-clicking the first roll rolls the attack and subtracts the Focus cost at the same time (that's the cmarvel [a]c5 coding that you see).
To determine damage, the player adjusts the middle roll (CTRL+Mousewheel) to whatever the result of the Marvel die was, in this case 5
Then they adjust the third roll (again, CTRL+Mousewheel) for the final multiplier (DD is punching with x2, but Bullseye has -1 for his reinforced skeleton...which is what Matt gets for dropping Bullseye from a highwire). Final result is a x1.
Then double-click that third roll to apply the damage. This works out to be 9 (5 x 1 plus two times DD's Melee bonus, which is picked up from [Melee|a] and [Temp Melee DMG Bonus|a]).

I hope this helps!

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Originally Posted by Hjorimir

I have a library of all the rolls that I'm working up, but I think sharing that would violate copyright laws as all of the rolls have the rules out of the book implemented. That said, I'm happy to assist with some coding examples.

Here's a quick example to help get you started (see attached image).

Looking at the red annotations:
Daredevil has Attack Stance active, so I added a Temp Melee DMG Bonus of 2 (to reflect the power's effect) and added a Concentration effect to DD on the Combat Tracker for clarity.

Looking at the orange annotations:
Double-clicking the first roll rolls the attack and subtracts the Focus cost at the same time (that's the cmarvel [a]c5 coding that you see).
To determine damage, the player adjusts the middle roll (CTRL+Mousewheel) to whatever the result of the Marvel die was, in this case 5
Then they adjust the third roll (again, CTRL+Mousewheel) for the final multiplier (DD is punching with x2, but Bullseye has -1 for his reinforced skeleton...which is what Matt gets for dropping Bullseye from a highwire). Final result is a x1.
Then double-click that third roll to apply the damage. This works out to be 9 (5 x 1 plus two times DD's Melee bonus, which is picked up from [Melee|a] and [Temp Melee DMG Bonus|a]).

I hope this helps!

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Thank you Hjorimir. I'll look into this and see how I fair. I've got all the books. If I can't get my head around this I'll figure something out :)

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Originally Posted by Patou

Thank you Hjorimir. I'll look into this and see how I fair. I've got all the books. If I can't get my head around this I'll figure something out :)

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If you get stuck, please feel free to reach out and I'm happy to help share my implementations. :)

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Originally Posted by Hjorimir

If you get stuck, please feel free to reach out and I'm happy to help share my implementations. :)

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I'm set-up to attack this ;)

I guess you would input your "NPCs" similar to the character sheet?

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Originally Posted by Patou

I'm set-up to attack this ;)

I guess you would input your "NPCs" similar to the character sheet?

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I haven't created a lot of villains so far. Where my mind is at that minion type NPCs (e.g., Hand Ninjas, AIM agents, etc.) I'd create as NPCs. Normal "named" villains (e.g. Bullseye, Doctor Doom, etc.) I'd create on a full character sheet and take possession as GM.

That said, I do intend to test using the NPC sheet for full villains. I just don't like that the NPC forms don't have the ordering options that the full character sheets do. So, if I want the Attributes in order (MARVEL) for an NPC, I have to prepend them with numbers (1 Melee, 2 Agility, etc.), which bugs me. :P

hi, how could I use a different color dice in the same dice pool? (in the style of alien RPG stress dice)... Would there be a way to do this without having to code? I'm new to FG and I loved Xcore, because I want to adapt a game that doesn't yet exist in the FGU store... thanks in advance!

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Originally Posted by Hjorimir

This works. However, there's a small thing where the "big" damage number in the chatbox doesn't reflect that modifier. It does apply the correct amount of damage (double or half) to the target though. Just thought I'd give the feedback, but am THANKFUL for the new implementation.

See attached for an example. Damage dealt was 12 (correct). Note in damage roll indicates the double damage (12), but the larger number (to the right) was erroneously displayed as 6.

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Its not erroneous as such - it is displaying the dice result. It was intentional to leave it display the dice result. I will see if there is any other feedback and then will review.

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Originally Posted by Hjorimir

I have a library of all the rolls that I'm working up, but I think sharing that would violate copyright laws as all of the rolls have the rules out of the book implemented. That said, I'm happy to assist with some coding examples.

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It is OK to share a library or export of data such as skills and powers and equipment etc so long as they do not contain copy/paste descriptions from the books - names and values are OK.
It is OK to share NPCs also without descriptions.

You could not share a Reference Manual of the rules.
You could write your own rules summary and include that but nothing copy and paste.

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Originally Posted by Vangomes

hi, how could I use a different color dice in the same dice pool? (in the style of alien RPG stress dice)... Would there be a way to do this without having to code? I'm new to FG and I loved Xcore, because I want to adapt a game that doesn't yet exist in the FGU store... thanks in advance!

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Remind me how you build the pool for Alien (not in FG just in the game rules) and how the dice mechanic works.

At its simplest you could do something like this in formula for [a]:
[a]d6+[b]r6
You put the dice (excluding stress) in [a] and you put stress in [b]

The 3D dice wont show a RED dice but the chat will show the red dice at the end.

Cross posting this from another thread - Trinity Universe support

This is how I would do it in XCore with no code to write outside of some dice macros.

Set up your Attributes and Skills like this:
mod [a]
With the score/value stored in the [a] field

Set up an Action Roll like this:
[getmod]d10s[a]
and put the target number or difficulty in [a]

Build your Pool of dice by double clicking Attributes and Skills as permitted and then adjust the TN if required and double click Action Roll

See screenshot and also see charsheet export.

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...chmentid=61766

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Originally Posted by damned

Remind me how you build the pool for Alien (not in FG just in the game rules) and how the dice mechanic works.

At its simplest you could do something like this in formula for [a]:
[a]d6+[b]r6
You put the dice (excluding stress) in [a] and you put stress in [b]

The 3D dice wont show a RED dice but the chat will show the red dice at the end.

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Thank you very much, I'm having a lot of fun learning how to use Xcore... I know I still have a lot to learn! Thank you for your help, and congratulations on the tool, it saved us all!!!

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Originally Posted by Vangomes

Thank you very much, I'm having a lot of fun learning how to use Xcore... I know I still have a lot to learn! Thank you for your help, and congratulations on the tool, it saved us all!!!

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If you make working character sheets for any of your games please do post them for others to use and/or learn from :bandit:

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Originally Posted by Vangomes

Thank you very much, I'm having a lot of fun learning how to use Xcore... I know I still have a lot to learn! Thank you for your help, and congratulations on the tool, it saved us all!!!

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You could also always code an alien roll if you wanted to make it more specific. Use examples from Forge to get you started.

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Originally Posted by damned

You could also always code an alien roll if you wanted to make it more specific. Use examples from Forge to get you started.

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I'll try to do that... Everything is still very new to me, but I'm looking for information and watching videos. My friends want to play The Walking Dead, and adapting the sheet using Xcore is to make that wish a reality hehe... Since it's for personal use, I'll try to share something that doesn't infringe any copyright.

Meet my friend Lucille.

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...chmentid=61774

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Originally Posted by damned

Meet my friend Lucille.

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...chmentid=61774

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Thanks, but I'll leave it to Glenn hehe. However, I'm already saving it here for the group's equipment :)

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Originally Posted by damned

You could also always code an alien roll if you wanted to make it more specific. Use examples from Forge to get you started.

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One more thing... If you have any specific link that can help me on this journey, I'll welcome a hit from Lucille :D

Would it be possible to get word wrap for Effects on the Combat Tracker? Marvel Multiverse RPG has a ton of effects and concentrations to track and hard to see as is.

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Originally Posted by damned

I have added a small change to the damage roll in XCore itself - eg not in the Marvel extension.

If you hold SHIFT when rolling it will apply Double damage.
If you hold ALT when rolling it will apply Half damage.

If this is desirable I will roll it out to the other damage rolls.

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Any chance we could expand this functionality to damagen1 rolls? There are powers in Marvel that need it.

I know I said I just did it to the damage roll but I did actually end up doing it to all 4 of the rolls.
Please test and let me know.

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Originally Posted by damned

I know I said I just did it to the damage roll but I did actually end up doing it to all 4 of the rolls.
Please test and let me know.

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So, I duplicated a power and changed the damagen1 roll to a damage roll. Holding SHIFT for both as I made the roll yields
Damage Roll, works as the damage was doubled (8 damage was doubled to 16 and added as Wound)
Damagen1 Roll, applies flat damage to N1, but isn't doubled as desired. (8 points deducted from the target's N1 field - starting at 60 points of 'Focus' - but it should have had been 16)
Please see the attached image.

Hello, after spending a long time trying to find the right configuration (I know it's something very simple for you, but for me it was a challenge :D ), I managed to configure the attribute and skill tests.

I used the following string for the attribute test:
[a]d6s[6],

For the skill test:
[a]d6s[6]+[ATTRIBUTE|a]d6s[6],

Now, what do you think?

The next challenge will be to configure a stress system that works within this :D ...

Here's a print of how I did it:

Attachment 61781

Hello all

I'm preparing to dive into this madness that is ruleset creation. Gonna be honest, last time I tried any kind of codey stuff was with BASICA. Anyways, I'm looking at trying to automate the Villains and Vigilantes hit matrix (see attached image) and am wondering if somebody else has not already had a go at it. I did a forum search for "Villains" and came up empty but figured I would ask as well.




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Originally Posted by Vangomes

Hello, after spending a long time trying to find the right configuration (I know it's something very simple for you, but for me it was a challenge :D ), I managed to configure the attribute and skill tests.

I used the following string for the attribute test:
[a]d6s[6],

For the skill test:
[a]d6s[6]+[ATTRIBUTE|a]d6s[6],

Now, what do you think?

The next challenge will be to configure a stress system that works within this :D ...

Here's a print of how I did it:

Attachment 61781

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Another step taken, now, after much trial and error, I have configured the first part involving the stress test of skills and attributes.
I used the following string:
[a]d6s[6]+[ATTRIBUTE|a]d6s[6]+[STRESS|a]r6s[6]

here is a print
PS.: My character sheet is in Portuguese, but you can understand it hehe :)

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Originally Posted by Draykor

Hello all

I'm preparing to dive into this madness that is ruleset creation. Gonna be honest, last time I tried any kind of codey stuff was with BASICA. Anyways, I'm looking at trying to automate the Villains and Vigilantes hit matrix (see attached image) and am wondering if somebody else has not already had a go at it. I did a forum search for "Villains" and came up empty but figured I would ask as well.




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Can you provide a little more info please?

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Originally Posted by Vangomes

Another step taken, now, after much trial and error, I have configured the first part involving the stress test of skills and attributes.
I used the following string:
[a]d6s[6]+[ATTRIBUTE|a]d6s[6]+[STRESS|a]r6s[6]

here is a print
PS.: My character sheet is in Portuguese, but you can understand it hehe :)

Attachment 61786

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Nice work Vangomes!

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Originally Posted by Hjorimir

So, I duplicated a power and changed the damagen1 roll to a damage roll. Holding SHIFT for both as I made the roll yields
Damage Roll, works as the damage was doubled (8 damage was doubled to 16 and added as Wound)
Damagen1 Roll, applies flat damage to N1, but isn't doubled as desired. (8 points deducted from the target's N1 field - starting at 60 points of 'Focus' - but it should have had been 16)
Please see the attached image.

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Can you share a character sheet export please?

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Originally Posted by damned

Nice work Vangomes!

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Thank you @damned, thanks to your video about Xcore and your help here, I'm making progress. Once again, congratulations on this wonderful tool. I'll keep posting here as the project progresses, and I'll need more help as soon as I get stuck along the way :D