Pathfinder Second Edition - Core Rules module (not PFRPG2 ruleset) info and feedback

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Originally Posted by Farnaby

Though why that text comes up in the traits of a glaive? (shrug)

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It's not in the traits of a glaive - there is no "traits" data stored in an item - only the trait names. When you double click on a traits field, FG will lookup the details of each trait based off the name of the trait against the trait records open in the campaign - it will display the first record for each trait name match that it finds.

In the Core rulebook's description of human cultures, the image for Taldane is repeated in the entry for Tian, instead of the Tian image. I'd give you a screenshot but this site won't let me. There is a Tian image , called Tian00, that looks like it's the right shape to fit that spot.

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Originally Posted by ColoradoGM

In the Core rulebook's description of human cultures, the image for Taldane is repeated in the entry for Tian, instead of the Tian image. I'd give you a screenshot but this site won't let me. There is a Tian image , called Tian00, that looks like it's the right shape to fit that spot.

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Thanks for reporting, I'll get that fixed in a future release - it won't be for a while as the Core Rules is currently undergoing some Release 19 test updates. For future reference: you can attach images by going into advanced edit mode - click the "Go Advanced" button below the reply section. From there you can add attachments from the menu.

Hello,

I am not seeing the half-orc and half-elf under heritages. Steps to reproduce. Create a new PF2 campaign. Load the core rules module. Select human ancestry. The Select Heritage window is empty.

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Originally Posted by dearestleader

Hello,

I am not seeing the half-orc and half-elf under heritages. Steps to reproduce. Create a new PF2 campaign. Load the core rules module. Select human ancestry. The Select Heritage window is empty.

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What version of the Core Rules module do you have? To check the version go to Library -> Modules and select the Pathfinder Second Edition Core Rules, then click on Reference Manual and go to Credits and Legal - Module Versioning. Scroll down in the pane on the right - what is the last version number you see?

Showing 1.10 as the version. I'm guessing there's been updates since Jan 7, 2020. Do I need to delete something and rerun the update?

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Originally Posted by dearestleader

Showing 1.10 as the version. I'm guessing there's been updates since Jan 7, 2020. Do I need to delete something and rerun the update?

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That sounds like you have a dodgy downloaded version of the Core Rules.

Delete everything from your <FG app data>\modules directory and then re-run an update.

It's now on 1.14. That appeared to fix it. Thanks!

I purchased Secrets of Magic and the summoner class isn't working properly. The following errors occur during character creation.Attachment 56711Attachment 56712

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Originally Posted by bnmntj9

I purchased Secrets of Magic and the summoner class isn't working properly. The following errors occur during character creation.Attachment 56711Attachment 56712

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Welcome to the FG forums!

Error 1 is not actually an error - this is just a warning to tell you that no class kit was found. Paizo didn't provide class kits for any of the classes in Secrets of Magic - you can manually add one of the other class kits if you like by dragging they class kit to the PC inventory.

Error 2 - what are the steps to reproduce this error please?

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Originally Posted by Trenloe

Welcome to the FG forums!

Error 1 is not actually an error - this is just a warning to tell you that no class kit was found. Paizo didn't provide class kits for any of the classes in Secrets of Magic - you can manually add one of the other class kits if you like by dragging they class kit to the PC inventory.

Error 2 - what are the steps to reproduce this error please?

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When using the character creator for the 2e ruleset everything went smoothly until I chose the summoner class and picked my eidolon. As soon as I pick the eidolon the error occurs.

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Originally Posted by bnmntj9

When using the character creator for the 2e ruleset everything went smoothly until I chose the summoner class and picked my eidolon. As soon as I pick the eidolon the error occurs.

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Thanks for the information. There's been a fairly recent change to the underlying CoreRPG ruleset, which PFRPG2 run on top of, that's caused this error. I can't easily work around that change, so I've reached out to the main FG dev to see what we can do.

Thanks for reporting the issue. Unfortunately there's not an easy workaround at this stage - other than manually setting/changing the proficiencies on the eidolon as they change on the summoner PC.

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Originally Posted by Trenloe

Thanks for the information. There's been a fairly recent change to the underlying CoreRPG ruleset, which PFRPG2 run on top of, that's caused this error. I can't easily work around that change, so I've reached out to the main FG dev to see what we can do.

Thanks for reporting the issue. Unfortunately there's not an easy workaround at this stage - other than manually setting/changing the proficiencies on the eidolon as they change on the summoner PC.

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I appreciate the quick response. For now I've refunded the purchase. If the issue is resolved I'd be interested in making the purchase again, so please post if you find a solution.

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by bnmntj9

I appreciate the quick response. For now I've refunded the purchase. If the issue is resolved I'd be interested in making the purchase again, so please post if you find a solution.

Thanks!

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Sorry, I should have mentioned that we will get a fix, just that I had to work with the FG dev to do so which meant that when I posted I couldn't give an ETA for a fix.

We now have a fix for the issue and are pushing that through the FG update process - it'll be an update to both the CoreRPG and PFRPG2 rulesets. I'll post again when both updates are complete, which should be in the next couple of days.

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I appreciate the quick response. For now I've refunded the purchase. If the issue is resolved I'd be interested in making the purchase again, so please post if you find a solution.

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The fix has now been pushed to live. If you re-purchase, please test at your convenience and let me know if the issue has been resolved. Thanks!

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...l=1#post681656

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Originally Posted by Trenloe

The fix has now been pushed to live. If you re-purchase, please test at your convenience and let me know if the issue has been resolved. Thanks!

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...l=1#post681656

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I went ahead and purchased the content again. Everything seems to be working as intended! Thanks for the assistance.

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I went ahead and purchased the content again. Everything seems to be working as intended! Thanks for the assistance.

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Thanks for checking it works OK now. And thanks again for the initial report.

Hi Trenloe, noticed this one while preparing some sneaky villains for this evening's game

In the Tools > Modifiers menu, Cover is listed as +2 AC, +2 Reflex and +2 Sneak, Greater cover as +4. Works perfectly for Reflex and AC, but doesn't apply a die roll bonus to Stealth. Could the wording be changed from Stealth to Sneak so the bonus applies when hiding or sneaking via stealth in cover?

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Originally Posted by vonBlashyrkh

Hi Trenloe, noticed this one while preparing some sneaky villains for this evening's game

In the Tools > Modifiers menu, Cover is listed as +2 AC, +2 Reflex and +2 Sneak, Greater cover as +4. Works perfectly for Reflex and AC, but doesn't apply a die roll bonus to Stealth. Could the wording be changed from Stealth to Sneak so the bonus applies when hiding or sneaking via stealth in cover?

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There's no code currently in FG that adds any bonus to stealth checks based off cover. As mentioned in the effect page, any bonus from cover or greater cover to appropriate stealth based checks need to be handled manually, for example for the COVER effect: "Handle Manually: +2 circumstance bonus to Stealth checks to Hide, Sneak, or otherwise avoid detection."

This is the same for the Cover and Greater Cover modifier buttons.

This is primarily because there's currently not a way to differentiate between what type of Stealth check is being carried out. That will change in Release 19 - I'll make a note to re-visit this once Release 19 code is getting close to a live release.

So still learning the system but in the core rulebook darts have a dash to indicate they require an action to reload basically. In the FG conversion there is no indication on which items require an interaction action. Since reload uses a number field maybe add it to the notes? I only point it out because I had to bust out the hard back book and caused some confusion with new players. Thanks!

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So still learning the system but in the core rulebook darts have a dash to indicate they require an action to reload basically. In the FG conversion there is no indication on which items require an interaction action. Since reload uses a number field maybe add it to the notes? I only point it out because I had to bust out the hard back book and caused some confusion with new players. Thanks!

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Thanks for raising this. I'll look into a workable solution.

Alertness doesn't have automation to increase Perception to Expert.

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Originally Posted by Montis

Alertness doesn't have automation to increase Perception to Expert.

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Thanks for raising the issue. There's no perception automation added for anything in the core rules. I'll get it added in a future release.

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Originally Posted by Montis

Alertness doesn't have automation to increase Perception to Expert.

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The updates for Perception proficiency increases in class features went live yesterday: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...l=1#post684642

I checked the Core Rules calm emotion and none of the "Apply to Result Stat" fields are filled in.
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I edited the effects in Calm Emotions to add "Apply to Result Stat" to all of them. Now the Asterix does the right thing for Success, Failure and Critical Failure.
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Originally Posted by webdove

I checked the Core Rules calm emotion and none of the "Apply to Result Stat" fields are filled in.
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I edited the effects in Calm Emotions to add "Apply to Result Stat" to all of them. Now the Asterix does the right thing for Success, Failure and Critical Failure.
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Thanks for reporting, I'll get that fixed in a future release.

Hopefully I've put this in the right place, I get mixed up as to where I should post issues.

In my current campaign (Menace under Otari) one of my players has selected healing hands when they went up a level.
However I noted that in the Menace under Otari module this is listed as a FEAT 2 while in the Second Edition core rules and Archives of Nethys it is listed as a FEAT 1.

Is this an errata in the module as published by Paizo or is it an error introduced by you good peeps at Smite Works?

I am running it from the Core Rules so it won't be a problem but thought you should know.

I also note that it says 'no automation available' so how do I ensure that D10s are rolled rather than D8s?

What I've done temporarily is alter the heal spell so that it rolls D10s.

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In my current campaign (Menace under Otari) one of my players has selected healing hands when they went up a level.
However I noted that in the Menace under Otari module this is listed as a FEAT 2 while in the Second Edition core rules and Archives of Nethys it is listed as a FEAT 1.

Is this an errata in the module as published by Paizo or is it an error introduced by you good peeps at Smite Works?

I am running it from the Core Rules so it won't be a problem but thought you should know.

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Healing Hands is Feat 2 in the Beginner Box Heroes Handbook. If you're running using Core Rules, close the Heroes Handbook and restrict player access.

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Originally Posted by Oladahn

I also note that it says 'no automation available' so how do I ensure that D10s are rolled rather than D8s?

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Originally Posted by Oladahn

What I've done temporarily is alter the heal spell so that it rolls D10s.

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Yep, that's what you need to do - adjust the heal spell/s on your PC sheet as needed.

For some reason Orc Sight isn't listed as an available Ancestry Feat for a Human taking the Half-Orc heritage. The only prerequisite is that you have low-light vision which you get for selecting the Half-Orc heritage, and there is a special requirement that you have to take the feat at level one. I can find the feat manually and add it to the character tracker where it adds Darkvision to the character's senses.

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For some reason Orc Sight isn't listed as an available Ancestry Feat for a Human taking the Half-Orc heritage. The only prerequisite is that you have low-light vision which you get for selecting the Half-Orc heritage, and there is a special requirement that you have to take the feat at level one. I can find the feat manually and add it to the character tracker where it adds Darkvision to the character's senses.

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This is an issue with any trait containing a hyphen. It will be fixed in the ruleset as part of the Tuesday update next week.

Thanks for reporting the issue.

Since PF2E doesn't have separate level multiclassing, would it be feasible to have all Character Level entries in the current Actions tab (in the Spell Classes) update at the same time when leveling up via the tracker? Or even have just one entry that applies for all Spell Classes?
And then if someone for some reason needs to have them separate, maybe it could be an opt-in feature with a separate character option or something?

I know this is a lot to ask for a reasonably minimal gain, but I thought I'd ask anyway.


Also I asked a while ago if the Focus Points could be rewritten to be Available Focus Points instead of Focus Points Used (so if you're full you'd have 3/3 displayed instead of 0/3 which imho is much more intuitive). Is there any news on this or is that not going to change? Just curious :)

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Originally Posted by Montis

Since PF2E doesn't have separate level multiclassing, would it be feasible to have all Character Level entries in the current Actions tab (in the Spell Classes) update at the same time when leveling up via the tracker? Or even have just one entry that applies for all Spell Classes?
And then if someone for some reason needs to have them separate, maybe it could be an opt-in feature with a separate character option or something?

I know this is a lot to ask for a reasonably minimal gain, but I thought I'd ask anyway.


Also I asked a while ago if the Focus Points could be rewritten to be Available Focus Points instead of Focus Points Used (so if you're full you'd have 3/3 displayed instead of 0/3 which imho is much more intuitive). Is there any news on this or is that not going to change? Just curious :)

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Both of these are things that are on the list to do at some point, but are low priority. Sorry I can't tell you anything more than that.

Small issue in the Core Rulebook Reference Manual, not showing the "Reaction" symbol for Aid

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Originally Posted by Trenloe

Both of these are things that are on the list to do at some point, but are low priority. Sorry I can't tell you anything more than that.

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Okay, that's already nice to hear, thanks :)

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Originally Posted by Springroll

Small issue in the Core Rulebook Reference Manual, not showing the "Reaction" symbol for Aid

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For me it shows normally. It's likely an issue with the theme you're using.

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Originally Posted by Montis

Okay, that's already nice to hear, thanks :)




For me it shows normally. It's likely an issue with the theme you're using.

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Yup, should have checked before posting :) and for reference I was using the Heart Theme but had enabled other Fonts, disabling these solved the issue.

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Originally Posted by 7H3LaughingMan

For some reason Orc Sight isn't listed as an available Ancestry Feat for a Human taking the Half-Orc heritage. The only prerequisite is that you have low-light vision which you get for selecting the Half-Orc heritage, and there is a special requirement that you have to take the feat at level one. I can find the feat manually and add it to the character tracker where it adds Darkvision to the character's senses.

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This should be fixed with today's release.

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...June-13th-2023

Thanks again for reporting the issue.

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When I drag a +1 shortsword into the inventory it just shows up as "Shortsword" but clicking the red button shows an item bonus of 1 and magical trait.
Looking in the action tab, the name has changed to "** Shortsword **" the magical trait is there but the item bonus is missing.

Is this still a part of the clean-up task of magical items?

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Originally Posted by Farnaby

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When I drag a +1 shortsword into the inventory it just shows up as "Shortsword" but clicking the red button shows an item bonus of 1 and magical trait.
Looking in the action tab, the name has changed to "** Shortsword **" the magical trait is there but the item bonus is missing.

Is this still a part of the clean-up task of magical items?

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The item is unidentified so some fields aren't populated to hide the details from the player.

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Thanks Trenloe.