Genesys (FFG RPG) work in progress

I started up a fresh test just to see if I have the same issues. I am listing them below:

I am unable to drag a PC token onto a combat map. I do not get an error, but regardless of dragging the token or portrait, neither shows on the map. No issues with dragging the NPC to the map. It also does not matter the map resolution or having the grid on or off.


If I try to remove a PC from the Combat Tracker I get this error and it will not be removed. No issues with removing NPCs:
Script Error: [string "scripts/manager_initiativegenesys.lua"]:590: attempt to index a nil value

Pulling the damage result from the chat window onto the PC on the Combat Tracker results in an error, but pulling it onto the PC sheet does not display the error:
Script Error: [string "classes/initiative/actorcharsheet.lua"]:21: attempt to index global 'CharacterManager' (a nil value)

Oddly pulling set damage onto the PC or NPC sheet works, but anything that adds Brawn with the damage results in this error:
Script Error: [string "campaign/scripts/manager_char_genesys.lua"]:764: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value

Those are my main issues that stop me from real testing with players, with the inability to drop a PC token on the map being the biggest problem.
We could work around the damage issues by manually dealing out the damage. And not being able to remove the PCs from the Combat tracker is not terrible either since it would always be the same PCs.

Yeah I figured out how to do the decals. Thanks.

Not sure if you saw my previous post about those errors.

Also I can't adjust the number of ranks on a talent.

Sorry in advance if this has been discussed already. I did a search and didn't seem to find anything.

I am using both FGC and FGU and having the same problem on both (thought it was a Unity thing at first), I have no careers or species show up or be able to be used, talents are there no problem, items also, skills show up beautifully on the sheet. If someone can point me in the right direction that would be awesome.

also getting this when I load character manager
"Ruleset Error: panel: Defined with a merge attribute, but the name attribute (modifierstack) does not match an existing panel. Skipped. File (definitions/desktop.xml)"

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Originally Posted by SlyKuga

Sorry in advance if this has been discussed already. I did a search and didn't seem to find anything.

I am using both FGC and FGU and having the same problem on both (thought it was a Unity thing at first), I have no careers or species show up or be able to be used, talents are there no problem, items also, skills show up beautifully on the sheet. If someone can point me in the right direction that would be awesome.

also getting this when I load character manager
"Ruleset Error: panel: Defined with a merge attribute, but the name attribute (modifierstack) does not match an existing panel. Skipped. File (definitions/desktop.xml)"

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I add the careers and species to the module yet because I was unsure if he was going to do something with the format or leave as is. The ruleset is still being worked on. As far as the error I don't know.

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Originally Posted by sevrick

I add the careers and species to the module yet because I was unsure if he was going to do something with the format or leave as is. The ruleset is still being worked on. As far as the error I don't know.

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We talking about the Genesys or Star Wars stuff? I am talking about the regular Genesys stuff. Though I am looking forward to doing EotE also at some point

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Originally Posted by SlyKuga

We talking about the Genesys or Star Wars stuff? I am talking about the regular Genesys stuff. Though I am looking forward to doing EotE also at some point

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Opps that was a typo. I ment I haven't added them and I was talking about Geneyes.

It's cool! I understand. So I have created a bunch of talents, careers and archetypes. Is there any way to have those entries link into the character sheets like they do in 5E. If create a race that has set Characteristics, and special abilities is there a way to get them to show up when I drag the race over into the character sheet? Sorry again if this has already been discussed.

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Originally Posted by SlyKuga

It's cool! I understand. So I have created a bunch of talents, careers and archetypes. Is there any way to have those entries link into the character sheets like they do in 5E. If create a race that has set Characteristics, and special abilities is there a way to get them to show up when I drag the race over into the character sheet? Sorry again if this has already been discussed.

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Yes that is definitely possible. As it stands now, it doesn't have that capability.

There is a problem with adding dice to the pool with FGU. I attach log file here with error. Also if I use %d it shows empty with no number on chat. I am using March 18th version with updated FGU.

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[4/10/2020 8:43:50 PM] s'Campaign Option interface_cleardicepoolondrag set'
[4/10/2020 8:43:50 PM] s'dieboxmanager.lua: sendPlayerDicepool. Dieliststring = dBoost'
[4/10/2020 8:43:50 PM] [<color="red">ERROR</color>] Script execution error: [string "classes/desktop/diebox.lua"]:235: attempt to concatenate local 'type' (a nil value)
[4/10/2020 8:44:16 PM] s'Campaign Option interface_cleardicepoolondrag set'
[4/10/2020 8:44:16 PM] s'dieboxmanager.lua: sendPlayerDicepool. Dieliststring = dBoost,dProficiency'
[4/10/2020 8:44:16 PM] [<color="red">ERROR</color>] Script execution error: [string "classes/desktop/diebox.lua"]:235: attempt to concatenate local 'type' (a nil value)
[4/10/2020 8:44:26 PM] s'dieboxmanager.lua: sendPlayerDicepool. Dieliststring = dBoost,dProficiency,dDifficulty'
[4/10/2020 8:44:27 PM] s'dieboxmanager.lua: sendPlayerDicepool. Dieliststring = dBoost,dProficiency,dDifficulty,dDifficulty'
[4/10/2020 8:44:29 PM] s'dieboxmanager.lua: sendPlayerDicepool. Dieliststring = '
[4/10/2020 8:44:31 PM] s'TODO - Launch threat info/spend window. Threat = -1'
[4/10/2020 8:44:31 PM] s'TODO - Launch Triumph info/spend window.'

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Any chance of this becoming a Github/gitlab/bitbucket project instead of a Google drive share? I've never understood why git repos aren't the go-to for community rulesets. So much cleaner and more manageable, and there's the possibility of getting others excited about developing the ruleset with you.

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Any chance of this becoming a Github/gitlab/bitbucket project instead of a Google drive share? I've never understood why git repos aren't the go-to for community rulesets. So much cleaner and more manageable, and there's the possibility of getting others excited about developing the ruleset with you.

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Probably because people have to learn pulls and pushes and commits and adds and checkouts and merges and etc :)

If you don't/haven't worked with Git, then its something new to learn. Not that it's not valuable, but it takes learning :)

It has a learning curve, true... But learning to build a ruleset is easily three orders of magnitude harder than learning git. Most people who succeed at making a ruleset are already programmers. I have serious doubts that there are too many ruleset makers who don't have this skill by now, and if you can wrap your head around ruleset creation, git is easily, almost trivially within grasp.

(For those curious, this video is one of the best for understanding what git is and how it works.)

Hi guys

Just a quick note to let you all know i am still alive :P
I am reading the comments and yes, i will put this on github
I think it is also good to have a place where i can have a list of bug reports, suggestions and known errors
What do you guys suggest I use?

Are the vehicles still giving you problems? I am not a coder, but I was thinking: does the CoreRPG handle familiars and mounts any differently for the combat tracker? If so, maybe the answer lies in there somewhere. Or maybe create a two tabbed combat tracker: one for PCs and minions/aliens, villains, and a second for vehicles? I don't know if this is even possible but I figured I'd throw it out there anyway just in case it sparks some ideas.

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Hi guys

Just a quick note to let you all know i am still alive :P
I am reading the comments and yes, i will put this on github
I think it is also good to have a place where i can have a list of bug reports, suggestions and known errors
What do you guys suggest I use?

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Hi, first time poster. Looking into running a SW EotE campaign but it looks like this mod is closer (maybe) to working with FGU (I'm on a Catalina Mac)

Just my $0.02 as a developer, but git hub will cover all of that. It's both a repository of code as well as a forum for discussing technical issues.

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Are the vehicles still giving you problems? I am not a coder, but I was thinking: does the CoreRPG handle familiars and mounts any differently for the combat tracker? If so, maybe the answer lies in there somewhere. Or maybe create a two tabbed combat tracker: one for PCs and minions/aliens, villains, and a second for vehicles? I don't know if this is even possible but I figured I'd throw it out there anyway just in case it sparks some ideas.

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Core does not support familiars or vehicles, and i cannot find an implementation done with them in any rulesets

My idea for implementing this, is adding vehicles just like other items you can have, but a separate "inventory".
Then, you can flag one as being in use.
I want them to have inventories also, and allow players to move items from their inventory into the vehicle.
Vehicle should also be able to "equip" weapons.

Then, if the character has a vehicle flagged in use, that vehicle shows up in the combat tracker.

The way SWEOTE implemented it is like a hard coded tab inside the character, and i didnt want to do that.

So, as soon as i fix remaining issues, i will try to implement this idea

The positive side of doing it this way is that it allows me to have a vehicles database, so just like with weapons, we will be able to create vehicles, and assign one or more of them to characters

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Originally Posted by the8bitdeity

Hi, first time poster. Looking into running a SW EotE campaign but it looks like this mod is closer (maybe) to working with FGU (I'm on a Catalina Mac)

Just my $0.02 as a developer, but git hub will cover all of that. It's both a repository of code as well as a forum for discussing technical issues.

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I am prioritizing fixing the current reported issues, and then do another pass on compatibility with FGU

Currently I did not implement some features from SW ruleset though, like force die (this can be added back easly though), and obligation, duty, morality, force rating.
They are fairly easy for me to add, and my idea is creating a ruleset for SW, using Genesys as a library (just like DND5 and others do with core)

This will make the main code easly maintainable (i only have to work on one code)

The only main feature out so far are vehicles

So, as soon as i implement vehicles, i can create the SW ruleset for FGU

After that, there is still work to be done, because i want to create a way for people to import their existing data from the current SW ruleset, into the new one
I am still not sure how much it will be possible, but i will try


Last thing: i will work on the visuals. I want a good design for the ruleset, something like DND5 has, and also i want to provide a template for people to create other skins

I did not do much in the past weeks, but next week i will go back to working on the ruleset, and providing regular updates

Starfinder has vehicle functionality and it's quite interesting. Allows separate vehicle actions based on vehicle rules. Dont know if this helps. Again I'm thankful for everything you've done.

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Originally Posted by johniba

I am prioritizing fixing the current reported issues, and then do another pass on compatibility with FGU

Currently I did not implement some features from SW ruleset though, like force die (this can be added back easly though), and obligation, duty, morality, force rating.
They are fairly easy for me to add, and my idea is creating a ruleset for SW, using Genesys as a library (just like DND5 and others do with core)

This will make the main code easly maintainable (i only have to work on one code)

The only main feature out so far are vehicles

So, as soon as i implement vehicles, i can create the SW ruleset for FGU

After that, there is still work to be done, because i want to create a way for people to import their existing data from the current SW ruleset, into the new one
I am still not sure how much it will be possible, but i will try


Last thing: i will work on the visuals. I want a good design for the ruleset, something like DND5 has, and also i want to provide a template for people to create other skins

I did not do much in the past weeks, but next week i will go back to working on the ruleset, and providing regular updates

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Wow, sounds great. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help. I'm not familiar (yet) with Fantasy Ground's mark up API, but I've got software development experience so let me know if there is any help I can provide.

If you're curious about how GitHub works I can try to let you know.

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Starfinder has vehicle functionality and it's quite interesting. Allows separate vehicle actions based on vehicle rules. Dont know if this helps. Again I'm thankful for everything you've done.

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this helps a lot! I will look for that ruleset, and look at its code for inspiration, thank you

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Wow, sounds great. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help. I'm not familiar (yet) with Fantasy Ground's mark up API, but I've got software development experience so let me know if there is any help I can provide.

If you're curious about how GitHub works I can try to let you know.

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Thank you... i will need help specially from people that have a knack for visuals... i am terrible with any designs, mine are always ugly and functional, so that is why i will provide a template so people can make things more good looking

About github, the big challenge is only learning how Atom editor works with it.. i did a bit of an exploration, i only need to make sure i dont screw up

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Originally Posted by alfarobl

There is a problem with adding dice to the pool with FGU. I attach log file here with error. Also if I use %d it shows empty with no number on chat. I am using March 18th version with updated FGU.

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Were you able to reproduce error with FGU?

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Thank you... i will need help specially from people that have a knack for visuals... i am terrible with any designs, mine are always ugly and functional, so that is why i will provide a template so people can make things more good looking

About github, the big challenge is only learning how Atom editor works with it.. i did a bit of an exploration, i only need to make sure i dont screw up

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Apologies if I'm talking down, but Git (the technology behind GitHub) is just a source control system (albeit a moderately complicated one if you're a power user). If the product assets are just text files (or any other suffix that's really just a text file like json, or js or ...) it can track changes to the file over time and show diffs and the like. It's basically mandatory to use SCM for any "real" coding practices so you can figure out when bugs get introduced or "how did we do this thing 2 years ago?" . Let me know if you have any questions regarding best practices for source management, I've been a developer for over 15 years.

EDIT: also I'm not a visual guy unfortunately, definitely a low level coder

I was just thinking that Savage Worlds has a vehicle combat system as well. That ruleset might have some ideas on how to implement that function better for genesys. And also for the subsequent Star Wars ruleset that will come as much as I’d like the functionality to export old modules it’s not a dealbreaker For me. And I’ve created probably twenty or so modules in the old ruleset. I’d rather have a badass ruleset that can’t import the old data than a mediocre one that can. What do others think?

I haven't done a lot of work with the current Star Wars ruleset outside of my own stuff, but, one that works the same as the rest of the FG games is always a better option.

Yeah this week i will check all the reported errors, and finish some stuff that are left over.

Awesome. I am curious if my errors are something on my side or if they are errors that you have as well. Thank you!

Sounds good. When your ready I can also start on NPC libraries.

Hi! I have subscribed to FG for a few years but frankly never played a lot with it because I was intimidated by having to modify the port forwarding and handling all of the extensions, modules and stuff.

Recent events and backing the Unity Kickstarter have made me more likely to use this program. I have an Ultimate license on both FG Classic and FG Unity.

I am running a Star Wars EotE campaign with my group, and am trying to convince them to use FG to play. I have downloaded the extensions, modules, critical hit tables and dice sets into FG Classic. I see that the Genesys system is being worked on, which is very encouraging. I do have a few questions:

1. How can I help?
2. Has anyone contacted OggDude about his character generator that is linked to in the FFG forums?
3. Should I encourage my players to get FG Classic or FG Unity? We are looking to play on 27 April or failing that, 11 May.

Thank you all who have worked on this project. It certainly makes it easier for people like me to get it up and running for my group with minimal effort!

Mike
Fezzwick on FFG
Fezzwick on FG

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2. Has anyone contacted OggDude about his character generator that is linked to in the FFG forums?

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I contacted him a few years ago, and he said we could use the data from his app. However, that has since morphed and there's data available that definitely breaks copyright - the original OggDude data had "Refer to page xx" instead of text - which kinda kept it within the realms of just providing game mechanics data.

We never really discussed a PC import process - just too many moving parts and data changes.

Thank you so much for working on this! I have a Genesys game that I'm probably going to be resuming soon, and I just picked up FG recently to continue gaming through quarantine, and tossed around the idea of working on my own ruleset for it. I'm going to do what I can to run this through its paces. ;) Is there a GitHub repo for it yet? I didn't see mention of it in the thread, and I've already found a couple issues that I could submit a PR for.

Cheers and thanks again!

Incase you looking for the worst bug it would have to be the minnon group skills not working.

A couple things:

1. Any idea when it will be possible to add talents, abilities, etc.?
2. What is the last column (the number field to the immediate left of the die icon) in the skills tab? I'm guessing it's ranks in each skill, but it doesn't seem to be editable.
3. I get the following error when I drop dice in the dice pool:

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[4/29/2020 8:33:55 AM] [<color="red">ERROR</color>] Script execution error: [string "classes/desktop/diebox.lua"]:235: attempt to concatenate local 'type' (a nil value)

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Is anyone else testing this having my issue of not being able to put a PC character token on a map?

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Originally Posted by GrizzledNoob

Is anyone else testing this having my issue of not being able to put a PC character token on a map?

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Did you try dragging the token from the combat tracker onto the map?

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Originally Posted by sevrick

Did you try dragging the token from the combat tracker onto the map?

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Yes. I cannot get either the PC or the NPC token on the map from the combat tracker. I can bring it from the NPC "character sheet" to the map, but cannot from the player character sheet. I am able to pull any token from the token bags on to the map, just not from the PC sheet or the combat tracker.

Does it work from the combat tracker for you Sevrick?

Hello all, thank you all for working on this. Been trying to read through the thread and want to get a a oneshot running for a group using FFG Star wars. I noticed the front page hasn't been updated since January and going through the forum there is also the Genysis ruleset guys that you all are working with...I just want to know what currently is the best working setup for starwars? Do we load up Genysis but then load up a star wars module or are they 2 different systems still...I'm just a little confused on what is the best method currently.

He is still working on the base game. My understanding is after this gets done then a star wars module or extension could be created. Right now I would just use the old eote ruleset for fg classic if I was wanting to play star wars

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I just want to know what currently is the best working setup for starwars?

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If you're using FG Classic look at this ruleset: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...iny-v2-ruleset

It doesn't have some of the CoreRPG features you may be useful, but it's totally usable (I've run many games with it, as have others) and there are some good base library modules for it. too.

If you're using FG Unity then the ruleset in this current thread is where you'll need to look - but the Star Wars extension mentioned hasn't (to the best of my knowledge) been created yet.