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Stargrove
August 2nd, 2025, 22:53
I have a question for the GMs out there. I am currently working on the conversion of a module. In this module is has tables of various subsectors (Rhylanor, Lanth, & Vilis). The moduel only ever gives details on a few of the worlds from each subsector in a few of the chapters but it does give a big table of all the systems for each subsector. As GMs, would you like to have all those systems in the module or would that be too much "clutter"? It is not that much extra work to get them all imported (about 75 total systems) for me, but I was curious what you all would like to see?

Stargrove
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anstett
August 3rd, 2025, 12:48
Yes to seeing every system in a subsector listed. Preferably listed to show up as a System as well.

No to needing every detail if it is not already in the material. Just a name and UWP is fine.

Trenloe
August 3rd, 2025, 15:20
The full table somewhere in the module and a link to each system on the subsector/sector map would be great - even if the linked system is just a UWP. This will allow the referee to access the system info quickly from the map and also, assuming the module is not read-only, allow the referee to make notes within the system record.

Stargrove
August 3rd, 2025, 19:09
The full table somewhere in the module and a link to each system on the subsector/sector map would be great - even if the linked system is just a UWP. This will allow the referee to access the system info quickly from the map and also, assuming the module is not read-only, allow the referee to make notes within the system record.

The full tables for the subsectors is already in the module in different chapters. If there was a way to drop a link to a System record into a cell (HINT, HINT FGU Devs), that would be cool. I had seen something sort of like that in the original conversion of the CSC with various equipment lists, but did not know how MBM did it. I had asked the FGU folks about how to do that and was told it was non-standard and not to worry about it. Sorry, but I think about it all the time and want to know how it was done.

As for the System entries, importing the data directly from TravellerMap using my extension makes short work of them.

Trenloe
August 3rd, 2025, 22:02
I had seen something sort of like that in the original conversion of the CSC with various equipment lists, but did not know how MBM did it. I had asked the FGU folks about how to do that and was told it was non-standard and not to worry about it. Sorry, but I think about it all the time and want to know how it was done.
Do you have a specific example of that? Nothing is jumping out at me in the CSC. It'll probably require manual editing of the XML, but you should be able to look at an existing example for the syntax.

Stargrove
August 3rd, 2025, 22:09
Do you have a specific example of that? Nothing is jumping out at me in the CSC. It'll probably require manual editing of the XML, but you should be able to look at an existing example for the syntax.

Sure. In the original CSC:
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64981&d=1733273156

anstett
August 3rd, 2025, 22:19
Could there be sub-categories?

Armour
->Standard Armour
->Archaic Armour
->Experimental Armour

Thinking later this year when the new 'comprehensive revamped Vehicle Handbook' comes out with the rules for building new things it might pop up again.

Stargrove
August 3rd, 2025, 22:40
Could there be sub-categories?

Armour
->Standard Armour
->Archaic Armour
->Experimental Armour

Thinking later this year when the new 'comprehensive revamped Vehicle Handbook' comes out with the rules for building new things it might pop up again.

These are the categories/Sub-Categories for Items that I identified when I started working on the CSC 2023 update last year.

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64982&d=1733273156

These are what you see at the top of item entries when you open them up. They determine what fields are available to be filled in.

Trenloe
August 3rd, 2025, 22:50
Sure. In the original CSC:
Ah, OK - thanks for that, it clarifies what I was thinking of. I thought you were referring to adding links to the embedded tables within formattedtext - e.g. within a story entry.

These are what's known as grouped lists (or record views) and are programmed within the ruleset, within data_library_traveller.lua.

Try the attached extension I've quickly thrown together. It adds a "By Subsector" button to the system window that opens a grouped list that's defined in the extension. This is really a proof of concept and I hope it will allow SmiteWorks to implement something similar relatively quickly, Edit the fields in the aListViews table in scripts\data_library_SystemGL.lua to better server your needs.

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64984

Note that the ruleset only fully populates the UWP data when the record is opened.

It also adds a "Systems - By Subsector" option to export to the module library:

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64985